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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 05:06 PM Original message |
Do you believe in original sin? |
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displacedtexan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
1. No. (eom) |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
2. I don't believe in the concept of "sin" at all. |
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imenja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 05:09 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. meaning anything goes? |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 08:44 PM Response to Reply #3 |
16. I can't speak for MercutioATC , but... |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-16-05 03:37 AM Response to Reply #3 |
22. I don't believe morality is that defined. |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 10:55 AM Response to Reply #22 |
33. Exactly... "sin" is simplistic. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 04:28 AM Response to Reply #3 |
44. Interestingly, sin, original or otherwise, is not an absolute, is it? |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-02-06 08:58 PM Response to Reply #3 |
62. Sin, if it exists at all, is never absolute. It is always relative. |
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orpupilofnature57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
4. Yes, but it's not as simple as having sex, it's about our nature to disobey |
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ThoughtCriminal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
5. No - in part |
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Spinzonner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 05:26 PM Response to Original message |
6. Well, if you believe in fairy tales like Adam and Eve |
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orpupilofnature57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 05:33 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Hence, you've used "Biologically original" allegorically ! |
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Spinzonner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 07:19 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Seemed explanatory, not allegorical to me |
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dbonds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
7. No. this concept is dependent on your model of cosmology. |
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orpupilofnature57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 05:54 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. I agree that the intellect is our bank of knowledge, and not experience |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
8. There are no human absolutes. |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
9. Nope. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
11. No, moreover if I were God, I would not have made humans with so |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
12. No |
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orpupilofnature57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 06:07 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Cal lit what you want ,but forgiveness is a conscience judgment.. |
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American in Asia (332 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
17. Mixed feelings, I guess |
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gate of the sun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 09:56 PM Response to Original message |
18. it's kind of a crazy hansel and gretel notion to me |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 09:12 AM Response to Reply #18 |
49. It's interesting that you invoke Hansel and Gretel, gate of the sun. |
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PATRICK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 10:01 PM Response to Original message |
19. Paul's run on sentence mistranslated |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-16-05 12:09 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Your post made me smile |
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Zorbuddha (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-05 09:19 PM Response to Reply #19 |
29. I've tried to be original in my sinning |
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OneBlueSky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-16-05 02:02 AM Response to Original message |
21. no . . . I prefer theologian Matthew Fox's notion of Original Blessing . . |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 04:37 AM Response to Reply #21 |
45. Beautiful excerpts from a wonderful book by a great man. |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-02-06 02:00 AM Response to Reply #21 |
58. I can see why... |
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Tux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-16-05 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
23. No |
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Nikia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-16-05 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
24. I think that Adam and Eve are allegorical |
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Zorbuddha (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-05 09:41 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. We passed through an evolutionary threshold |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 03:56 PM Response to Reply #30 |
37. Makes sense to me-- |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-16-05 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
25. I don't believe in a literal Adam and Eve, and I believe that |
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Broca (524 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-16-05 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
26. Sin is a religious concept. |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-16-05 11:45 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Welcome to DU! |
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catbert836 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-05 07:41 AM Response to Original message |
28. No, not really. |
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James T. Kirk (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-05 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
31. Yup. |
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musical_soul (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-19-05 12:03 AM Response to Original message |
32. No. |
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thinkingwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
34. Nope. No original. No sin |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 09:25 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Perhaps those who use it so should think of their own sins first, eh? |
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thinkingwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 10:33 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. It would be nice |
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crikkett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
35. Garden of Eden is a Mesopotamian creation myth btw |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 09:35 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Yes, it certainly is a Mesopotamian creation myth. |
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crikkett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 10:10 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. and... I think it's false. So no original sin. |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
36. I don't understand the concept of sin, |
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Darranar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-05 07:44 AM Response to Original message |
42. No. Humans have always had free will. We are "predisposed"... |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-02-06 06:17 AM Response to Original message |
43. No. I consider it a control mechanism. |
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sutz12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 05:14 AM Response to Original message |
46. No, we evolved out of that in the Reformation. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 07:44 AM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Some of us did. Not so sure about Jim Dobson. I think he's still |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 07:42 AM Response to Original message |
47. I don't think there are any original sins |
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sutz12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 09:42 AM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Have you been watching Eddie Izzard? |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 11:33 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. No! Elaborate, please |
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sutz12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 12:48 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Eddie Izzard is an English comic...dresses in drag |
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SPKrazy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
52. I Think It Is Metaphor For Free Will |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-02-06 12:46 AM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Free will is an alternate interpretation of the Adam and Eve myth. |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-02-06 12:11 AM Response to Original message |
54. No - and this is what Elaine Pagels had to say about it... |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-02-06 01:49 AM Response to Original message |
56. I've always looked at the Garden myth... |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-02-06 01:58 AM Response to Original message |
57. Not as a religious doctrine |
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SPKrazy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-02-06 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
59. I Think It Is Just A Story |
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Duppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-02-06 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
60. NO. nt |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-02-06 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
61. Nope. |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-03-06 08:41 AM Response to Original message |
63. No & I have problems with the concept of sin in general. |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-03-06 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
64. I've been thinking about this |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-03-06 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
65. Yes |
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nemo137 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-14-06 12:49 AM Response to Original message |
66. Yes. Although with qualifications |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-14-06 01:21 AM Response to Original message |
67. I believe in original sin, but being an atheist, I call it entrophy. |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-16-06 10:37 PM Response to Reply #67 |
74. On entropy / flow - Csikszentmihalyi |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-14-06 10:19 PM Response to Original message |
68. I see the notion of "original sin" as profoundly immoral |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-15-06 11:25 PM Response to Original message |
69. Yes. It is equal to genetics in a rough manner (nt) |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-16-06 04:34 AM Response to Reply #69 |
70. Lol |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-16-06 04:45 AM Response to Reply #69 |
71. That makes no sense whatsoever |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-16-06 06:41 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. The idea here being |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-16-06 09:58 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. They still have nothing to do with one another |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-17-06 01:22 AM Response to Reply #72 |
75. Sorry to correct you, but misunderstanding about evolution |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-17-06 01:32 AM Response to Original message |
76. Here was my play on Original Sin (for those that have already |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-17-06 01:36 AM Response to Reply #76 |
77. That one has always been my favorite. |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-17-06 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
78. Nope, not really, except perhaps in the broadest most |
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SPKrazy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-17-06 10:17 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. That's My Take Basically As Well |
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