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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 11:44 AM
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'God' Helps with Personal Decisions, Most Americans Say
By LiveScience Staff
posted: 10 March 2010 10:22 am ET

Most Americans believe God is involved in their everyday lives and concerned with their personal well-being, though the well-educated and higher earners are less likely than their counterparts to believe in such divine intervention, a new study suggests.

Scott Schieman, a sociology professor at the University of Toronto, examined data from two recent national surveys of Americans and their beliefs about God's involvement in their everyday lives.

The results, published in the March issue of the journal Sociology of Religion, suggest these beliefs differ across education and income levels. Past research has suggested other factors involved with our religious beliefs, with one study revealing teachers are more religious than other college grads, and another suggesting women are more likely than men to believe in God.

Here are some highlights from the new findings:

82 percent of participants reported that they depend on God for help and guidance in making decisions.

http://www.livescience.com/culture/belief-in-god-americans-100310.html

No wonder we are in the shape we are in....
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 11:47 AM
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1. You mean god is in the lives of people who earn shit and he's not doing anything about it?
:wtf:
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Last_Stand Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 01:50 PM
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23. Yes, god watches us all 24/7...
and allows humans to do unspeakably evil things to children, animals, and each other on a daily basis.

It's all part of his plan, you see.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 11:48 AM
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2. Long ago, when I did believe in God, my mantra was "God helps those who help themselves."
I never was codependent.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 11:48 AM
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3. depends on what you consider god to be
it can be a higher power, or even the better part of your own being.

there are millions of definitions of what 'god' is.

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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 11:58 AM
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8. Indeed
And as part of a faith community, I depend on the accumulated wisdom of the people I've known, loved and trusted for years when I have a difficult personal decision.

It's a poorly-worded question, designed to elicit a certain answer for the comfort of some and the scorn of others.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 11:52 AM
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4. I have the impression that more and more Americans are/have become DEISTS
Edited on Wed Mar-10-10 11:59 AM by ShortnFiery
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism

For myself, I'm a recovering Catholic. I still BELIEVE that there is "an energy" or "forces at odds - good vs. evil" which may not be GOD but of the very least, A VENERABLE HIGHER POWER that we can view with awe and admiration.

Anyway, that's what gets me through and I suspect others may hold to the same concept but default to the term GOD so as to explain their own very personal Deism.

p.s. I'm very much in agreement with the late Bea Arther's character "Maude," in that, KARMA exists.

"God's going to get you for that?" Yes, I believe that good and evil forces must balance out and this is in accordance with natural law. :evilgrin:
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 11:53 AM
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5. Well, that explains a lot.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 11:54 AM
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6. And here all this time I thought it was the Goddess Kali... who knew?
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 11:57 AM
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7. This explains the political decisions made by many Murikans... nt
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 12:02 PM
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10. No, however, I believe in difficult times MOST people turn to a Higher Power.
Thank goodness more folks don't join organized religion. But many of us, through times of hardship reach out for something to believe in.

There's no problem in being spiritual or even religious as long as you believe your God does not distain non-believers.
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 01:10 PM
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18. I believe in Rock and Roll... and Reason. nt
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 12:01 PM
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9. Alrighty then
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 12:02 PM
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11. Yeah, I heard that god has his own magic 8 ball...
works at least half the time...
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 12:06 PM
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12. What about a Divine Plan then? What good is it if anyone can muck it up w/their personal wants?
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 12:07 PM
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13. God keeps telling me to buy the jelly beans
And eat them.

He obviously doesn't care how fat I get.

x(
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 12:08 PM
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14. You mean it isn't Hank?
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 12:24 PM
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15. And yet the majority of those who said that 'God' directs or guides
Edited on Wed Mar-10-10 12:25 PM by Subdivisions
their life are the same ones that rail against Muslims and their fanaticism.
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humblebum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 11:28 AM
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30. "Fanaticism" is the key word there. Fanaticism and extremism
can affect any grouping of human beings.
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darkstar3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 01:01 PM
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33. Moreso if that grouping of human beings
Edited on Thu Mar-11-10 01:02 PM by darkstar3
has already set aside their normal guard against rabid fanaticism (logical, critical, and deliberative thought), for easy answers.
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Bettie Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 12:29 PM
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16. So people pray to make decisions
I call it intuition and some people are able to focus by talking to their imaginary friend.

If it helps and gives them comfort, then great.

As long as their belief doesn't screw with my government and life.
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ipaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 12:40 PM
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17. God and hope...
The top 1% loves magical thinking. There isn't anything on earth that works better to cover up and excuse their crimes.
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panzerfaust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 01:13 PM
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19. So, is that why so many relationships that don't work out - God gives bad guidance?
Still, what can one expect from an all-powerful invisible master of the universe who allows children to be abused?

One of the first things I would stop, If I were god.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 01:16 PM
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20. I don't know The Kennedy family is religious
just to name one family.

I am Christian and I believe I can make decisions that are helpful to others.

What an insult to those of us that Believe.

Why do so many Democrats put down religion ~ I don't ask you to believe in anything but it is not polite to do this ~
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kctim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 02:03 PM
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24. Not us Democrats
its so many "progressives," who love to put down religion. Its nothing but blind outrage aimed at people who dare to believe differently than them. A pretty stupid thing to do when one looks at the whole picture of the party. One of the most loyal groups to the Dem party are black Americans, who also just so happen to be one of the most religious groups there is.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 05:26 PM
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27. Thanks so much for your words
Edited on Wed Mar-10-10 05:28 PM by goclark
I am reminded of the loyal Democrat, Martin Luther King and so many others.

Not just African Americans but Church groups of all ethnic groups who marched and still march for the Democratic Party and got out the the vote in many an election.

To have the ability to vote is extremely important to us and the church has always been the base of support.

Of couse most of the slaves were Christian so for African Americans to be talked down to about their religion is an insult .

Thank you for being understanding.
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AlecBGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 12:40 PM
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31. it can be hard being a Christian Democrat
especially here on DU. You only need to look at the posts in this thread to see the level of hate & contempt that many of our fellow Democrats have for their Christian brothers & sisters. Its pretty sad.
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nickinSTL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 11:23 PM
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35. as a "progressive", I find that rather insulting
I don't put down religion, and I have no problem with it - so long as it isn't used as a tool of hate to harm, denigrate and abuse those who don't have the same beliefs.

The problem that we "progressives" have is with all of the fundamentalists who are trying to enforce their beliefs on the rest of us. Those fundamentalists are, unfortunately, the loudest - leading many to equate that fundamentalism with any religion - and yes, in this country, with Christianity in general.

Instead of attacking progressives, try to find ways to bring a louder voice to those who really are good Christians who follow the teachings of Jesus - instead of using his name as a weapon.

I'm a progressive, and I'm not a Christian, but I know good, liberal Christians - friends who help me keep perspective and remind me that not all Christians are hatemongers.
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 07:04 AM
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36. Why does/should religion get a pass?
And I think "blind outrage" is quite hyperbolic. But why, when people do stupid things in the name or religion, should "progressives" just turn a blind eye and not say a thing about it?
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piratefish08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 01:29 PM
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21. and we wonder why the country is in the state it's in..............
"71 percent said they believe that when good or bad things happen, these occurrences are simply part of God's plan for them."

OR

"71 percent said they believe that they are too weak-willed to accept responsibility for their own lives and those around them, so 'Gawddidit' wraps up all the loose ends."
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AlecBGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 12:46 PM
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32. wow
thats quite a mental leap. how do you go from "it happened for a reason" to "i should lay down and do nothing" ?
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 01:32 PM
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22. Wonder what DU'ers say...
what percentage of DU'ers would agree with "most Americans"?

Sid
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 02:06 PM
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25. God botherers annoy the crap out of me.
Stone age loons.
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ipaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 02:25 PM
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26. And 82% of participants believe they alone are doing something right or
Edited on Wed Mar-10-10 02:26 PM by ipaint
doing something wrong depending "god's" answer.

It must not have anything to do with a de-regulated criminal capitalist elite wreaking widespread havoc and death.
No, it's all about the individual and their personal relationship with their chosen authority figure deity. And that yardstick is used to judge all others.

Me, me, me...all about me.
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 07:24 PM
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28. Of course they do. Their god is a sockpuppet.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 07:27 PM
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29. HAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 10:57 PM
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34. Have these people not read St. Augustine? Their God doesn't care.
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iris27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 12:27 PM
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37. And God's advice is never wrong.
Even if it results in utter catastrophe, well, it's just a trial that He decided you needed to make you stronger! And He'll give you the strength to get through it! :eyes:
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 04:14 PM
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38. Just like the video...
Mr. Deity and the messages
Jesus: ...so what you're saying here sir, is that you never answer any prayers?

Mr. Deity: Not really, no. There's just no incentive. I mean, look--if somebody prays to me and things go well, who get's the credit? Me, right? But if they pray to me and things don't go well, who gets the blame? Not me. So it's all good...I'm going to mess with that by steppin' in, putting my big nose where it doesn't belong?


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