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demtenjeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 12:41 AM
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Do you go to church? Care to share which one?
I am tired of people thinking just because we vote the Democratic ticket, we must all be anti-God.


I was raised Baptist. I believe in God.


What are your thoughts?
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HeresyLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 12:42 AM
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1. Nobody is anti-God.
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ironbark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 08:58 AM
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57. Karl was
“I wish to avenge myself against the One who rules above.”
Karl Marx.
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darkstar3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 02:58 PM
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64. Oh, but don't you remember?
Edited on Sun Mar-21-10 03:03 PM by darkstar3
The communists were atheists and anti-god at the same time. Forget about the fact that you can't be an atheist if you believe god exists and want to rail against him, that little bit of logic didn't matter to those evil communists who epitomize everything bad about secularism...:sarcasm:

Does that about cover what the "ignored"s will say?
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iris27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 03:21 PM
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66. That's a pretty good parlor trick.
Careful, or you might be providing evidence that some humans possess psychic powers! :)
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darkstar3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 03:26 PM
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67. Science and witchcraft have been conflated since time immemorial,
but this is pattern recognition, not psychic ability. :hi:
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 12:45 AM
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2. I tried religion, went to church for a couple years, didn't work for me.
Edited on Sun Mar-21-10 12:46 AM by Initech
The church I went to was the Orange County Church Of Christ. I met some cool people there but I finally came to the realization that religion just didn't work for me. It was just after 9/11 and people like Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson started coming out of the woodwork and saying that 9/11 was a sign of the end times, and I got to thinking - "Is this really a group I want to be a part of?".
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 12:46 AM
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3. United Methodist. Very liberal church in a sea of Red.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 01:29 AM
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20. United Methodist
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unc70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 09:20 PM
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68. United Methodist -- very liberal
The prayers today included against war, pro immigration reform as a "welcoming" people.

And a lot more social justice, etc.

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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 06:33 PM
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77. Not so "welcoming" of glbt people.
In fact, not welcoming at all.
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unc70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 10:42 PM
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86. Very welcoming of glbt at my church. Slowly changing the rest of UMC
We have a large number of GLBT in our membership. (BTW my son is gay, but not local.)

Unfortunately, the UMC as a whole is split nearly equally between those supporting GLBT and those strongly opposed. I hope and expect that we will overcome this in the next few years. Until then, we will keep up the pressure and can only respond as individuals and as a congregation.

http://www.chapelhilluumc.org
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 12:46 AM
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4. Yosemite Valley... Glacier Point To Be Exact...


:hi:
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 12:55 AM
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13. Well, you've converted me. nt
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 01:02 AM
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16. We Take All Comers


:evilgrin:
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 01:08 AM
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18. On A Serious Side... Check Out THIS Photo I Found...


Don't know if that's a doudle exposure, a sandwich shot, or what... but it is one hell of a fisheye lens shot.

Way cool!!!

:shrug:
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ironbark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 08:55 AM
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56. Hey WillyT! You got the same church as me!
See #55

;-)
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 12:47 AM
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5. This thread is going places
:beer:
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demtenjeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 12:50 AM
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6. I make no judgments I truly want to see the diversity
that is a beautiful photo
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HeresyLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 12:51 AM
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8. Mmmmm, downhill.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 12:50 AM
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7. Nope. Grew up Jewish and currently an atheist
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 12:51 AM
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9. I'm an atheist. No dues and we get to sleep in on Sundays.
:thumbsup:
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demtenjeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 12:53 AM
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11. our church is pretty casual. Not your typical baptist
infact, they changed their name and are more "non-denominational" we have 4 services over saturday and sunday Quite the change from the church of my youth.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 08:44 PM
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81. I'll admit
though I am a regular at church, I do wish we had a much later service. Sleeping in on a Sunday would be lovely! :)
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 12:52 AM
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10. I got to a very small Buddhist Sanga n/t
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 12:53 AM
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12. I Teach A 1st/2nd Grade Sunday School Class
And swear like a sailor on DU whenever I get a chance. Mr. Dinger thinks that's weird.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 12:57 AM
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14. I go to a Lutheran church in CT, Zion Evangelical Lutheran. My husband is the organist.
The Pastor is my husband's boss and married us. Very laid back, child-friendly, leaning leftward church. This particular Lutheran church, under guidance of the The Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, believes gay pastors are allowed and some newer members are not happy about that and were thinking of leaving per my husband. Oh well, their loss.
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AlecBGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 08:04 AM
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52. Grace Evangelical Lutheran Church
in Winchester, VA. We are also struggling with the issue of sexuality and the ordniation of gay pastors. Our pastor has become (to me) much more progressive in the last few years and has really come around on this issue. Its good to see that even ordained ministers can see the light :) Like your church, some of the members arent happy and are leaving for more conservative churches. I have no problem with that... Church should be a place where you can feel comfortable and while I personally believe homosexuality is NOT a choice, there are some who disagree and see it as sin. I think its our obligation to testify to them what we believe and why, but if they cant get over it, I say let them go.
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turntxblue Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 01:01 AM
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15. United Methodist
I'm usually there every Sunday.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 01:06 AM
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17. Raised Catholic. Believe in God.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 01:14 AM
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19. Episcopal/Independent Catholic
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 01:29 AM
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21. Hell no.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 01:30 AM
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22. Many of us are ordained clerics
but that doesn't matter to those who denigrate people just because of political affiliation.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 04:27 AM
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39. .
Edited on Sun Mar-21-10 04:27 AM by Political Heretic
misplaced.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 01:31 AM
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23. I believed in God until I had a reason not to.
I don't judge people on their belief. I just can't wrap my head around a "kind and merciful" person.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 01:47 AM
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26. Like George Carlin said - "I was Irish Catholic until I reached the age of reason..."
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tulsakatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 01:38 AM
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24. I was raised Baptist too.......
....and I will never go back to it!! I believe in God too but not the fundamentalists definition of it.

I don't attend church much now, mostly because I have a weird schedule but am a member of Religious Science church.
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Staph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 01:42 AM
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25. Grew up Methodist (before the United part in 1968)
Pretty much quit attending in college -- not from religious sensibilities -- just wanted to sleep in on Sundays. I still had a good relationship with God; I just didn't worship in public on a weekly basis.

In my 40s, I started attending regularly again, generally a couple of times a month as my work schedule allows. I found that I missed the sense of community, the open-heartedness of the Methodist church in general and my church in particular, and, most of all, I missed the music. Where else can you get together weekly, in a room with fine acoustics, and sing to your heart's content?


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Chipper Chat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 02:00 AM
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27. United Methodist
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 02:04 AM
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28. I'm a Deist.
I don't belong to any organized religion but I believe in God and the world after this one.
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xfundy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 02:09 AM
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29. Brunch. n/t
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obxhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 02:13 AM
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30. No, I've reached the age of reason.
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 02:17 AM
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31. I do, and I don't.
My faith has been tested many times, once to the point of a suicide attempt over a failed relationship. I thought she was my soulmate, she thought I was just a stepping stone to something better. I sat on my bed with a twelve-pack and a bottle of pills in my lap. I slammed a beer, and took a pill. Slammed a beer, took a pill. I did that until the twelve-pack was gone, then I lay down to sleep believing I was checking out. At some point, I rolled over onto my stomach. I woke up in a pool of puke, and for the next week all I could keep down was water and Pepto.

I'll go to my grave believing that I wasn't supposed to check out yet, and that someone or something reached out and kept my ticket from being punched. My daughter who was two at the time and with her mom who I had divorced a year earlier might agree.

That said, I hold no grudge against anyone who denies the notion of "faith", and would hope that no one holds a grudge against me for feeling it.

I don't attend regularly, but when I do, I walk away with a sense that there is good in the world, and that all one has to do is look for it.
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New Dawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 02:20 AM
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32. I'm anti-Easter Bunny.
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the other one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 02:27 AM
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33. Temple Beth Emeth reform
Because I like it there.

My personal philosophy is Taoist / Buddhist / Jewish .

My wife was raised catholic and she hates god. She does enjoy Beth Emeth because we are are a liberal branch that is open to interpreting and naming the eternal one as goddess in place of god if that is meaningful to you. Works for her.
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 02:32 AM
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34. Episcopal.
Focus is on love, community, service and redemption.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 02:37 AM
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35. Well, even if you believe in God, you don't have to go to a church.
I'm somewhat of a pantheist, but even if I was Christian, I don't think I'd go to church. I don't like labels, groupthink, and am pretty introverted and have to deal with groups all week long...my weekends are my down time. (I was raised Catholic and dreaded sundays)

That bein said, when my kids get older, I will be taking them to our local Unitarian fellowship. I've been there and I liked it, but not enough to go on my own :)
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 08:47 PM
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82. I think that's true for some
For others, the sense of community is very important. I've seen that particularly when people in our parish are going through a tough time, and find all sorts of support and solace from people they might not even know all that well.
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 04:01 AM
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36. Don't go to church
But, I built my own! I have a small rock garden chapel. I built it after my wife got cancer. She wanted it, I built it! We live in a gated lake community where there is no church (unusual, since 90% of the people here are republicans). Several of our neighbors use the chapel to pray. Some have cancer, other have friends or relatives that are ill or in a bad way. It is not denominational, all are welcome. My wife is a stained glass artist and did all the windows a year before I built it. It is stunning! Neither of us are religious fanatics, we just happen to have been raised in Christian households. I no longer try to define religion because i have my own beliefs that do not fall in line with any mainstream religion. So....

I am opposed to those who use religion to divide. That makes me against most all mainstream beliefs.
I do not judge those who do not believe. It's their life. I just kinda do my thing and let others do theirs. If everyone did the same, the world would be a better place!
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AlecBGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 08:08 AM
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53. that sounds wonderful
do you have any pictures?

I hope this isnt too personal... how is your wife?
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 08:48 PM
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83. That sounds just lovely. Bless you for doing that!
How is your wife?
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 04:20 AM
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37. Churchless and itinerant here.
Like What's-His-Face.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 08:49 PM
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84. Hey Saltpoint
You need a bumper-sticker that says: What's-His-Face loves you.

;)
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Blix Krieg Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 04:25 AM
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38. Not me Baby.
As an Ex Minister I can tell you, I wouldn't give
a church a passing glance. Religion is pure enslavement.
Any religion. Got nothing against my God, but his
Fan Club is pathetic. Jesus said, do not pray before
men like the Pharisee, to which today's Christians
say "rubbish", and then fall over each other to
pray the loudest.

The bloody list goes on and on.

Turn the Churches into Cocktail Lounges, we would all be better off.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 04:28 AM
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40. not affliated with an organized religion, hold private beliefs of a non-theistic nature.
I respectfully chose not to share.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 04:36 AM
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41. I have not been to a church service since 1967.
That's when my parents stopped making me go. I am highly spiritual but not at all religious. I know what religion does to groups of people and I want no part of it.
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 05:03 AM
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42. Technically Buddhist Shinto
Edited on Sun Mar-21-10 05:04 AM by AsahinaKimi
My father came from Japan, and is Buddhist Shinto. My mother is Buddhist. She's half Korean and Half Japanese. I grew up hearing about Shinto and Buddhism, but I never really attended any Buddhist Temples in San Francisco, although I have heard there are plenty. I think the closest Shinto Shrine is in Washington State!

I don't really practice. I like to read up about Buddhism and Shinto, but I don't put anything into practice.

I was called a "Heathen" while I lived for a short period in Utah, and have been approached aggressively to convert to Christianity, but don't frankly think Christianity is for me. (This surely pisses off a few of those who have tried to convert me, for some reason. One even told me, when the END TIMES comes, it will be his delight to put me to death.) Of course the examples set by some extreme religious people is a pure turn off. So, I have no desires to covert.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 05:07 AM
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43. I was raised in an evangelical church and married a Muslim
the first time around but did not convert. I attended church periodically over the next 20 years and grew to be very dissatisfied with it. At some point, abandoned the church of my childhood and joined the United Methodist church, then I left my marriage. I remarried and this time married the son of a Methodist minister. We do not attend church except by invitation for weddings, funerals, or christenings. I have a side to me that is fascinated by the spiritual and the mystical. Whether you need to focus that aspect of the great mysteries of the universe/the unknown/the unknowable in an entity with a name or address it in the terms I have just used, I think there is a need in humans to characterize it to make it understandable. I would include the pursuit of science as a belief system in itself which seeks such understanding of the greater unknown in my understanding of what constitutes spirituality. It is a great seeking of truth. However, I've come to believe that religion is a crudely wielded political tool, a construction manipulated to amass and exercise power. I don't consider myself currently to be either an athiest or a believer. I consider myself to be an individual seeking essential truths about the world around me and my fellow travellers. I see huge common threads and themes across all religions and cloaked in various mythologies. It is this quest that is the core of humanity. BTW, I have raised two children, both of whom are self-proclaimed athiests. My son, however, pursues scientific inquiry with the religous fervor of any zealot. :)
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 05:35 AM
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44. Roman Catholic
more or less attend church weekly but it isn't too hard to dissuade me from making the effort.

Beleive in God, hope He/She/It beleives in me.

Had a hard stretch (no pun) as a teen since receiving absolution requires a sincere effort to not repeat the sin forgiven again.

The catholic church considers masturbation a sin. I consider lying to God a sin (espeically since God in omniscient in the first place, right?)

Do the math. ;^)

Finally went back because of my kids, both of whom ended up Deists for Chrissakes. Go figure
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sweetloukillbot Donating Member (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 05:52 AM
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45. Former ELCA Lutheran (the liberal branch) - now Episcopal
Got sick of the Lutheran attempts at praise band services and decided to go for more high church - and ended up in the most amazing, diverse, welcoming church community I've ever been in. It's also a joy to see so many Obama bumper stickers in the church parking lot, especially in the heart of a red state.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 06:12 AM
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46. Mazdayasni. I consider myself a member of the religious left.
Edited on Sun Mar-21-10 06:13 AM by Wizard777
I worship in my home. There are some people here on DU that would just love for the democratic party to take on the Anti God moniker. They seem to have a chip on their shoulder with people of faith. But because I have God behind me and since God also made me 6' 11". I won't hesitate to knock that chip off their shoulder.
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Silent3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 09:44 AM
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58. Ooh, tough guy!
Isn't it nice to have "God behind (you)" supporting your real or fantasized physical violence against people who annoy you?

As for the "some people here on DU that would just love for the democratic party to take on the Anti God moniker", who exactly are these folks?

I'm both an atheist and a realist. In my experience those two things go together more often than not. An "Anti God" Democratic party would be a failed Democratic party. I'd love it if more Democrats, more of all people everywhere, left religion and superstition behind, but I'm hardly for writing that into the party platform. As far as the Democratic party goes, I think most American atheists would be happy just to see the Democratic party be a party that supports strong separation of church and state.

Most atheists, even those who express vocal disdain for religion and superstition, don't support any sort of exclusionary or coercive agenda that could be called anything close to supporting an "Anti God" party.

There are, of course, a few Democrats who simply want atheists to shut the hell up and keep their atheism very quietly to themselves, for fear that those nasty atheists will chase away religious people who can't bear to here criticism of their beliefs.

Well, I'm not shutting up, even if you are 6' 11".
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 12:02 PM
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62. Oh, brother. You gonna beat me up, too?
Edited on Sun Mar-21-10 12:10 PM by beam me up scottie
I'm a 5'4" female in fighting shape, the only girl in my family, a former Marine and I know how to use weapons.

Bring it on.

:eyes:

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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 06:26 AM
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47. I go to the same church Jesus went to.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 06:29 AM
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48. Since age 11, I have only been in a church when I was forced to go.
I was raised in religious schools and attended church many times every week, long after I stopped believing in any of it and came to really despise it all.

I see nothing good in religion whatsoever.

mark
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 06:32 AM
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49. No. I'm an atheist.
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 06:38 AM
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50. Don't go


Grew up seeing religious snake-oil salesmen swindle people out of their money, and neither "god" or other "religious" people do anything about it.

I have a less then stellar view on the entire operation.
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 06:52 AM
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51. ELCA Lutheran
Time to get ready for church!
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 08:31 AM
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54. Anti-God? It's really hard to be against an entity you don't believe
exists. Really hard. I'm against religions that promote intolerance, though.
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ironbark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 08:50 AM
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55. I attend the Church of the Blessed Beach


Yup, that’s my front yard.

And the Forrest Rd Cathedral



Yup, back yard.

;-)
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 08:53 PM
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85. I find little that's quite as spiritually "real"
to me as a quiet beach. The most beautiful and contemplative place. No stained glass quite reaches it for me.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 10:02 AM
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59. Unitarian Universalist chuch.
I'm a UU that's into exloring New Thought, Transcendentalism and Ancient Wisdom (including primal drumming).
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 05:27 AM
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75. Hi, Maat. The UU folks are A-OK with this observer.
Carry on!

:thumbsup:
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 11:42 AM
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76. Thanks.
:)
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EvolveOrConvolve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 10:26 AM
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60. Grew up Mormon
And that ruined me for anything religious. I'm now an atheist, and I spend Sundays doing worthwhile things like hanging out with my family and working in the yard.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 11:46 AM
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61. my religion is none of your business -- and I really don't care what others do
Because I don't *define* myself by religion.

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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 12:35 PM
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63. Well your problem isn't god, or being a believer and going to church.....
...or being a member of the Democratic Party.


- Your problem is worrying about what other people think. You'll never please "other people....."

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darkstar3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 03:07 PM
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65. I'm tired of the left being referred to as anti-god too.
You do realize of course that you don't have to go to church in order to NOT be anti-god? In fact, by definition, atheists are not anti-god. It's a dismissive ad hom moniker thrown at us because "liberal" doesn't scare people enough anymore.
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 09:29 PM
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69. You make an excellent point.
Edited on Sun Mar-21-10 09:34 PM by DeSwiss
If Christianity (or religion) is 1, then atheism is 0. Not -1.



(Addendum) "It works conversely as well....."
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 10:41 PM
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70. It is the default position.
Of course American christians wouldn't be satisfied with 1, their volume would have to go to 11. :evilgrin:
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 11:56 PM
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72. They never could count that well.
For example, they still call them The 12 Disciples, but the only way that works is if they count Judas. The traitor.

- Of course counting Judas' among Christian disciples makes sense in my experience......
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 12:42 AM
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74. Damn! I was trying to pay homage to This is Spinal Tap.
Video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbVKWCpNFhY">Spinal Tap - 11


Nigel Tufnel: The numbers all go to eleven. Look, right across the board, eleven, eleven, eleven and...

Marty DiBergi: Oh, I see. And most amps go up to ten?

Nigel Tufnel: Exactly.

Marty DiBergi: Does that mean it's louder? Is it any louder?

Nigel Tufnel: Well, it's one louder, isn't it? It's not ten. You see, most blokes, you know, will be playing at ten. You're on ten here, all the way up, all the way up, all the way up, you're on ten on your guitar. Where can you go from there? Where?

Marty DiBergi: I don't know.

Nigel Tufnel: Nowhere. Exactly. What we do is, if we need that extra push over the cliff, you know what we do?

Marty DiBergi: Put it up to eleven.

Nigel Tufnel: Eleven. Exactly. One louder.

Marty DiBergi: Why don't you just make ten louder and make ten be the top number and make that a little louder?

Nigel Tufnel: These go to eleven.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Up_to_eleven">Up to eleven

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darkstar3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 10:53 PM
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71. Actually,
I love the idea of atheism as '0'.

It's a starting point.
It took centuries to really make it into any real usage.
It is to this day very misunderstood and often forgotten.

Any other similarities to add?
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 12:01 AM
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73. The null set....
...is everyone's starting point.

By leaping to 1, Christians are professing that they have all of life's answers located somewhere within their beliefs. Within their god. Which in a way, they do.

- Of course they're all made up.....

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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 06:34 PM
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78. Lifelong UCC. nt
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 06:40 PM
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79. I'm a Unitarian Universalist. I believe in something I call "God"
but it's probably not the understanding of God that many Christians have.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 08:43 PM
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80. Raised Roman Catholic
received into the Episcopal Church about 16 years ago. Regular church-goer, raising my kids in my faith.
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