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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-10 03:10 AM
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Ray Comfort sending Death Cards to the elderly
What a sweetheart... :sarcasm:

Waiheke resident Marianne Taylor, 89, was shocked to receive an "appointment card" in the post last week.

The card, published by livingwatersnewzealand.com, was addressed to her by name and asked her to fill in the date and time of her death.

"Please don't forget to call me on the date you're going to die, then we can discuss your eternity," it says. However, the cards do not have a contact name or phone number printed on them.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10684299


Ray Comfort is a New Zealand born Christian minister and evangelist. Comfort started Living Waters Publications and The Way of the Master in Bellflower, California and has written a number of books.

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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-10 04:21 AM
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1. He resembles Sonny Bono
Edited on Sun Oct-31-10 04:27 AM by madmax
What a nice man :sarcasm:
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RSillsbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-10 04:22 AM
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2. I've actually had a chance to talk to Ray Comfort
He doesn't strike me as a deliberately mean person. He's just extremely overzealous about his religious beliefs
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-10 04:29 AM
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3. Targeting old people who already
realize their days are numbered is just being overzealous. :shrug:
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RSillsbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-10 09:43 AM
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6. He lives in California this happened in New Zealand
I'm betting he had nothing more to do w/ it than Lee Iaccoca would have if an individual Chrysler dealer was nasty to a potential customer
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-10 10:00 AM
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7. I'll take that bet
Mr Comfort replied to an emailed request for comment, apologising for any offence caused by the card that he published in the United States years ago.

"We have published over 100 million gospel tracts and very rarely are people shocked by them. My intention was simply to remind those who read it, that all of us are going to die, and that God offers us the gift of everlasting life," Mr Comfort says.

"Any doctor who has a cure to a disease has to confront his patient with the bad news of a diagnosis – so that he will see that he needs the cure.

"So may I respectfully ask the shocked resident to forgive me, and then look past the bad news, to the incredible good news of the Christian gospel."

http://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/local-news/north-shore-times/4263949/Death-on-the-cards

Whatever you might think of Comfort, he's always dependably an asshole.
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RSillsbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-10 11:26 AM
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8. He published the tract
Doesn't mean he gave it to the people

Whatever you might think of Comfort, he's always dependably an asshole.

I've met him, you haven't tell me again why you're more qualified to comment on his character than I am?

I don't agree with his approach but he is courteous and polite in his dealings with people, or at least he was with me.IMO that isn't what an asshole does.

And FWIW there is no doubt in my mind it was Ray Comfort I met, he gave me a book he wrote called "My friends are dying"
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-10 11:58 AM
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9. He's responsible for the product
and how it's distributed.

He is a sizable player in the religious nuttery that makes genuine people of faith look bad, erodes national discourse and warps our relationship with government.

Who gives a shit how polite he is in person? As far as I'm concerned he just hires others to be an ass for him like any other media personality.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-10 12:31 PM
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10. Right
He published it and sent it to his subsidiary in New Zealand... for them to put into a sock drawer forever.

Does he have fly to NZ to be culpable?

You haven't told me why you're more qualified to assess his character, beyond having met him. I should overlook that he's a liar and a plagiarist (and sends unsolicited death cards to old people) because he was a swell guy the one time you saw him?

He's an asshole.

If you are an atheist, I hope I’m ruffling your feathers. I want to get under your skin and ask why you don’t have the courage to even whisper to Muslims what you keep shouting at Christians. Prove me wrong. Get onto a Muslim website and tell them that you don’t believe their god exists. Do your little “I don’t believe in Zeus” thing. Tell them they believe a myth. Make sure you use the word "fairytale." Talk about Mohammed as you do Jesus (use your usual lower case for Mohammed). Do your “I don’t believe in the flying spaghetti monster” thing. Tell them that you believe that they weren’t made by (a) god, but that they evolved from primates (that will go down well).

Explain that you think they are blind simpletons to believe the way they do, and that even though there is a creation, you don't see any evidence that there is a Creator. Let them know that you think that it's intelligent to believe the way you do. You may as well explain that even though you don't believe in God's existence, you use His name as a cuss word, because you think it's worthless. Also, let them know in no uncertain terms that you believe that the Koran is full of mistakes (give some examples), and that their mosques are full of hypocrites.

You wouldn’t dare, because you are chicken-livered. You know that they are not like Christians. Despite the “anonymity” of your little chicken coop, they would come after you to lop off your head. And when they find you, you would fall on your knees and be praying to God for help, quicker than I can move a fly swat . . . and I'm pretty quick. So, think about what you are doing, and think about how much you value your life. Then think about what we are telling you. Think.

http://raycomfortfood.blogspot.com/2008/01/atheists-evolved-from-chickens.html
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 01:05 PM
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11. He has the same character as any confidence man.
He is courteous and polite and tells you things that are false. Does he do it knowingly? Can't tell, and what difference does it make?

The fact that he has you fooled is testimony to his skill as a grifter, not his character.

--imm
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-10 05:07 AM
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4. ...so he is an asshole more than a sociopath?...nt
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 02:01 PM
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12. That's extremely understated.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-10 07:16 AM
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5. What an ass.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 02:02 PM
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13. Such a comfort.
Last person *I* would want to speak to on my dying day.
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