Will you convert to Christianity if the Rapture® happens on Saturday?

[Renew Deal]

[donheld]

1. If it happens, Conversion then will be too late.

[laconicsax]

2. Correct me if I'm wrong...

If you aren't a "True" Christian when their rapture takes place, you're screwed no matter what you do afterwards, right?

[Renew Deal]

3. I think you have a "second chance,"

2. Can people repent during the Tribulation?

Revelation 9:20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:

Revelation 16:9 And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.

Revelation 16:11 And blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds.

From these passages, we can see that mankind will be given the opportunity to repent during the Tribulation. These are but a few of the references found in Revelation that show repentance and the lack thereof during the Tribulation period. Therefore, we can be confidant that God's offer of salvation and forgiveness will still be available.

http://www.raptureready.com/rr-second-chance.html

[AmericaIsGreat]

5. Sweeeet

Man this was easy.

[darkstar3]

4. "I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints. The sinners have much more fun."

[Speck Tater]

6. If the rapture happens I will shit enough gold bars to buy God and cancel it.

Frankly, me shitting gold bars is probably more likely than the rapture anyway.

[ElboRuum]

7. No, but I will be enraptured...

144,000 fewer annoying people in the world... joyous.

[LAGC]

13. And they'll all be "the chosen" Jehovahs Witnesses!

Thank the Goddess for no more unsolicited knocks on my door.

[DJ13]

8. Heck no

Im going to stay behind and use all their stuff!

[onager]

12. Me too. Planning the Post-Rapture Looting!

n/t

[Lionessa]

9. No, but I'd sure thank God for ridding the earth of the "righteous".

[tavalon]

20. I think in Jesus's day he called them pharasees.

Fake Christians.

[Lionessa]

21. WTF? In Jesus' day there were no Christians, fake or otherwise, imo.

Since Xtianity didn't start till 70 years or more later. In my book, the "righteous" is pretty much anyone who considers themselves a xtian, muslim, mormon; anyone who worships an invisible daddy figure whether they worship well or falsely just to fit in.


That being said, you misunderstand me, I hope all religious (where religious means worshiping "GOD"), are whisked away.

[tavalon]

26. I was also misunderstood there

I was referring to the story about Jesus in the Temple, when he threw out the moneychangers and I think, though my indoctrination is from 30 years ago, talked about the Pharisees. He spoke about them being fake religious people.

Being of a spiritual bent, I like real Christians just fine, they just don't get much airtime. The Rapture Ready Brigade is loud, but hopefully small. And come Saturday, as much as we would like to rid ourselves of them, like fleas on a dog, they and their equally small minded "God" will still be a boil on our collective butts. How's that for mixing one's metaphors?

[Silent3]

10. Those Oct. 28, 1992 Rapture signs are incredibly durable

It's now nearly 20 YEARS!!! since they were first plastered all over the place, yet I still see remnants of those signs -- ironic considering the very short time the signs were supposedly needed for.

[dimbear]

11. Remember to pent before you repent.

Baby steps, my friends.

[pnwmom]

14. The majority of Dems are already Christians -- just not

May 21 rapture believing Christians.

The Christian New Testament says that no one knows the date of the end times -- so anyone who claims s/he knows a date is contradicting the same book he or she claims to believe in.

[eqfan592]

34. That's the part of this I never get...

...how can this guy claim to no the date when it's clearly stated that only God will supposedly know the date? And this is the second time now for this guy.

I'm not a Christian mind you, so the bible doesn't hold much sway over me either way, but the least this guy could do would be to try and be consistent with his own belief system!

[housewolf]

15. If the Rapture happens on Saturday, it will be too late to convert

that's all

[Bubba Kush]

16. If the rapture happens, then I'll convert into Satanism

....

[Ninjaneer]

19. This. I would rather enlist with satan than bow to god's tyranny. eom

[ChadwickHenryWard]

17. No. Nothing could ever make we worship the monstrosity described in the Bible.

Even if he chose to prove his existence, which he has refrained from doing for several thousand years, I don't regard such a thing as worthy of any respect or obeisance. Let's put aside all the nasty business with David and Joshua and Jericho and Midian - even if god is real, none of that ever happened. As Christopher Hitchens has put it, the Christian god is the ultimate, eternal, unelected and unaccountable dictator. He is capable of convicting us of thought-crime, in our sleep, which can never be contested or appealed on any grounds or mercy or justice. Once convicted he reserves the right to assign infinite punishment for finite crimes. While some narrow subset of his commands for us comply with modern secular morality, in his eye the only important measure of morality is whether or not complete obeisance is paid to him. This is tyranny is its purest form, and if it were somehow proved to be true (an outcome that seems by now far outside the realm of possibility) I wouldn't like the system or accept it as just.

[tavalon]

27. The whole thing is allegory and anyone who takes these stories at face value

has a small mind and a small God too. Actually, for years, my favorite phrase has been that I allow Jesus into my pantheon, but not Yahweh, because he does not play well with others. I like being Pagan, there's so many to choose from!

[laconicsax]

28. Tell me, tavalon, what is the allegory behind Jephthah?

You know, the story where a "righteous man" makes a deal with God where if ol' smites-a-lot helps him on a genocidal rampage, he'll sacrifice whoever comes to greet him home. God agrees, and at the end of the rampage, Jephthah sacrifices his daughter.

What about Lot during Sodom and Gomorrah? He offered his daughters up to be gang raped by a mob, and this moral (!) action spared his life so that he could later impregnate said daughters in a cave.

How about the allegory behind the family-friendly story in Judges 19 where the Levite offers his daughter to a be gang raped by a mob (sound familiar), the mob prefers his concubine. They "abused her all the night until the morning" and when it was all over, the Levite cut her into 12 pieces and sent a piece to each tribe of Israel.

You can't dismiss the excessive cruelty of the Bible just by saying that it's allegory. You need to explain the allegory and why it was written as it was opposed to another, at least slightly moral way?

[ChadwickHenryWard]

31. They used to force children to read that shit in school.

I'm not in favor of censoring anything, but if we had to pick one thing to ban from schools, it would be that. I think I can deal with the genocide, the torture porn, the incest, the torment of a good and faithful servant over a bet, even the child sacrifice - but the idea of telling children the story of Lot offering up his daughters to by raped by the mob just turns my stomach. That is some fucked up repugnant shit.

[tavalon]

33. I won't defend one single part of the Old Testament

There is a reason I don't let Yahweh into my pantheon. Not only does he not play well with others, he's fucking insane.

[ChadwickHenryWard]

30. That's why I said forget all the nasty genocide and stuff.

None of the supposed history of Israel happened. (Well, nothing before the Babylonian captivity at least. And none of the events in the life of Jesus either - not the census or the slaughter of the innocents.)

But even in the realm of allegory, the idea of the divine slaveholder is just abhorrent. I don't approve of being owned, not by god or anybody else. I'm glad that so far as we can tell, it's not true.

[tavalon]

18. When I was thirteen and impressionable, I gave my heart to Jesus

at the First Baptist Church of Summerfield. I left the church when I was 19 and while I am religious, I am no longer Christian. If, and of course, I believe it not, if it happens, my husbands have promised to hold me down. I don't want to be associated with those small minded, petty, mean, fake Christians.

There are plenty of great Christians, but none of them believe the rapture crap because they believe torture is wrong, even if you're God.

[cleanhippie]

22. Can you tell me what the difference is between a "fake christian" and a "real" one?

[tavalon]

25. Come Saturday, it will be really, really easy

All the pissed off hornets, beating their chests and flailing their arms at the God they gave their heart to, who didn't come through on their selfish desire to fly up to heaven, skip the dying part and then point at laugh at the people "Left Behind", are the fake Christians. The real ones quietly go about their business of service to others, judge not, lest thee be judged and basically, act like really good humans and they aren't even paying attention to the silly claptrap of the rapture pharisees.

I've known a couple of real Christians in my life. They are people I try to emulate, though I am now a long term Pagan. I consider the rapture ready idiots, well, idiots, but also small minded, petty, selfish, I could go on, but you get the idea. The "Rapture" just encapsulates those many narcissistic qualities.

[salvorhardin]

23. According to Camping...

If the rapture comes tomorrow, anyone left behind will be annihilated, so I don't think in Camping's theology heathens get a second chance. Of course, Camping also believes the Biblical Jesus is actually Satan and all current churches are apostate, worshiping Satan. So by that logic, one wouldn't want to convert to Christianity anyway -- that would just further damn you.

[struggle4progress]

24. I don't think Christians are supposed to be much interested when folk float up into the blue yonder;

here's Acts I:9-11:

... he was taken up before their eyes, and a cloud hid him from their sight. They looked intently up into the sky as he went, and suddenly there were two men dressed in white standing beside them. “Men of Galilee,” they said, “why do you stand here looking into the sky?

It's sorta seems to say: Oh? Jesus floated up into the sky? Yeah? Well, so what? Don't you have places to go and people to meet?

[Wolf Frankula]

29. StarFleet is on War Alert Just in Case

Admiral Vassily Uvarov has said, "If he tries anything, we'll kick God's ass back to Heaven. Then we'll make the rubble bounce and nuke them till they glow."

Wolf

[KaoriMitsubishi]

32. Only if...

Christians fart rainbows at that precise moment.

[AsahinaKimi]

35. I am very happy being where I am ...

and comfortable in my beliefs, even though I have been constantly hounded by some Christians to convert. I have no reason to.. and like Japan itself, I have said no thank you, many times.