Rachel M shows us: What more pure proof does one need? Teavangelists are servants of Mammon.

[patrice]

Listen to C. Peter Wagner in this video clip tell you that the result of the Japanese emperor sleeping with "the Sun Goddess" was that their stock market went down.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/ns/msnbc_tv-rachel_maddow_show/#43734392

So, not only do these people actually think their minds & understandings are precisely equal to that of God, that God is Mammon.

Rick Perry and his governors are blaspheming idolators.

[damntexdem]

1. Money changers in the temple.

And corrupt ones, at that.

[RKP5637]

2. And dangerous. The unraveling of America will come from within, not from without. n/t

[patrice]

3. That's my basic problem with it. People can believe what they want, but what they DO can be dangerou

s! Especially when they so clearly demonstrate that they very little capacity for valid rational thought. They don't even understand their own theology.

This is the line we should be using: They are blaspheming idolators. The reason that's a good rhetorical point is that proof abounds everywhere and it DOES matter to authentic Christians.

I also wish we were talking more about taxing the churches. They should be investigated and the ones that are businesses should be taxed.

[EC]

7. I knew that the tax issue was dead when

Scientology won the right to be tax exempt as a church...you'd think the government would use more common sense in ferreting out charlatans.

[patrice]

8. Indeed! That's pretty clear proof of covert fascism right there. nt

[TheDebbieDee]

4. I believe you are right..............

The sad part is, the last 5 or 6 years I have begun to understand why governments have become involved in religious repression........

[patrice]

5. It's not just governments, it's also employers in certain areas, a fact

documented from time to time by some state departments of labor. Talk to any attorney though and s/he'll tell you that discrimination is extremely hard and expensive to prove. This particular dynamic is going to have monster effects on "Faith" based anything, especially around the elderly.

[EC]

6. I sat watching that, thinking to myself, where do these

people come from that listen to all that pap the different "preachers" were spewing. They are no more men of God than I am. So why are their churches always full and why do people fall for snake oil salesmen still to this day? Nothing changes in those areas of the country. Tent revivals made lots of money even during the depression in those parts of the country that believe in such nonsense. I also don't get the TV evangelists...why do people fall for that crap?

[patrice]

9. Because they are weak, so they NEED it.

Not that all of us are not flawed and, ergo, weak. It's a matter of being honest about what you are doing AND ITS INHERENT LIMITATIONS.

[RKP5637]

10. Some people have great difficulty sorting out the world for themselves IMO. They need

to be told what to do, what to think and some are looking for some magical solution to their lives/problems. For others, I believe it's one addiction substituted for another, so the opportunists take full advantage of them.

The TV evangelists and others have this down to a science, they are con-preachers, send money now. It's so sad that this brand of evilness has moved into religion.

It really crosses the line for me when people decide others have to think just like them, and they want laws to make others think just like them about religion, and they maneuver themselves into political positions to force everyone to be just like them. It gets sick and it's pathetic. And many want to turn the US into a theocracy.

[rrneck]

11. It's the world's oldest profession

Selling people something they've already got.

[dimbear]

12. Speaking of the world's oldest profession, is Melissa Scott your fave too?

There's a long history of overlap. Apollonius of Tyana's girlfriend might have been one of the first.

[rrneck]

15. Sell the sizzle, not the steak. nt

[onager]

13. So...where are all the defenders of Sophisticated Theology? (tm)

:rofl:

I only hear crickets.

[laconicsax]

14. Blaspheming idolaters?

:rofl: