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hyphenate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 12:22 AM Original message |
Atheism versus New Atheism |
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Doctor Hurt (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 12:25 AM Response to Original message |
1. why should I have to respect someone's delusions? |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 12:28 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. +100 |
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Angry Dragon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 12:55 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. For the same reason they need to respect your delusions |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 07:03 AM Response to Reply #4 |
12. I don't want my delusions respected. |
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Angry Dragon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 01:52 PM Response to Reply #12 |
61. You can respect them at the same time they are challenged |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 02:37 PM Response to Reply #61 |
65. Again, I do not demand respect for my delusions, |
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Doctor Hurt (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 09:32 AM Response to Reply #4 |
30. I don't care if they respect me. |
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Kurmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 08:25 AM Response to Reply #1 |
15. So someone will respect your delusions enough to leave you alone. |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 08:29 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. I enjoy critical thinking and want my thoughts challenged. |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 08:46 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Nice cartoon downthread. |
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Thats my opinion (804 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 11:10 AM Response to Reply #17 |
40. You have nailed it. nt |
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Thats my opinion (804 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 11:08 AM Response to Reply #1 |
39. that is what they said about Galileo nt |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 05:22 PM Response to Reply #39 |
84. Who said that about Galileo? |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 12:49 AM Response to Original message |
3. i'm an atheist and i agree. |
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hyphenate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 05:39 PM Response to Reply #3 |
90. Thank you! Glad my opinion was not for naught! eom |
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stopbush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 01:48 AM Response to Original message |
5. You're an accommodationist. |
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Speck Tater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 03:18 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. So you refuse to accomodate the religious because they refuse to accomodate you? |
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LAGC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 08:58 AM Response to Reply #7 |
23. That's one reason I kind of like the "New Atheists." |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 09:13 AM Response to Reply #7 |
26. I refuse to accomodate religion because it is wrong. |
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A Simple Game (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 10:00 AM Response to Reply #26 |
32. So what does the God of Atheism look like? Is he White? Portly? |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 10:34 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. You are completely, 100% dead wrong. |
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A Simple Game (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 10:48 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. I'm sorry, I may have made this more complicated than it needs to be. |
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Humanist_Activist (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 12:28 PM Response to Reply #36 |
47. And this is where you are in error, atheism isn't a belief system, its the lack of belief in a... |
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A Simple Game (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 10:20 PM Response to Reply #47 |
107. Please read the posts that I was responding to. |
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Humanist_Activist (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 07:06 PM Response to Reply #107 |
123. I don't believe in anything with 100% certainty, therein lies foolishness... |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 12:32 PM Response to Reply #36 |
48. Oh that crap again |
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Humanist_Activist (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 12:44 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. You know, I'd have far less of a problem with people criticizing my beliefs if they were actually... |
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A Simple Game (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 10:27 PM Response to Reply #48 |
108. Congratulations on being rich, please pay more taxes. |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 08:29 AM Response to Reply #108 |
114. Wow what? Wow you finally understand what atheism means? |
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A Simple Game (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 04:32 PM Response to Reply #114 |
120. Let's just leave it at Wow. n/t |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 03:10 PM Response to Reply #36 |
67. The default logical position is that there is no God. |
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A Simple Game (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 11:00 PM Response to Reply #67 |
110. There is no God! You know you are in the minority, don't you? |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 12:57 AM Response to Reply #110 |
111. Just because millions believe something does not make it true. |
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A Simple Game (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 09:12 AM Response to Reply #111 |
116. First of all let me thank you for an informative and thoughtful post. |
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Humanist_Activist (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 10:34 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. How can you claim to be tolerant while saying that most of the religious people... |
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A Simple Game (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 11:23 AM Response to Reply #35 |
43. I judge no ones sincerity. |
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Humanist_Activist (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 12:25 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. In 1200(B.C E. or C.E.?, assuming C.E.) I would have staked on the world being round... |
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A Simple Game (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 10:04 PM Response to Reply #46 |
105. So the world was round in 1200. Good for you. |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 01:08 AM Response to Reply #105 |
112. Science and religion are completely different. |
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A Simple Game (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 09:34 AM Response to Reply #112 |
117. I am not a scientist. If I gave that impression, I am sorry. |
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Humanist_Activist (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 05:49 PM Response to Reply #117 |
121. Now this post shows you really don't know what science is at all... |
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A Simple Game (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 08:45 PM Response to Reply #121 |
126. You seem to have a comprehension problem. |
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Humanist_Activist (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 12:17 PM Response to Reply #126 |
131. No, you have a writing comprehension problem... |
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A Simple Game (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 04:17 PM Response to Reply #131 |
133. Maybe this will help. |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 10:47 PM Response to Reply #46 |
109. Has anyone ever proven, "you can't prove a negative?" |
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Humanist_Activist (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 05:54 PM Response to Reply #109 |
122. Yes, its impossible to do so without playing useless semantic games... |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 04:47 PM Response to Reply #32 |
137. No one to speak of 'worships Atheism' |
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dimbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 05:19 PM Response to Reply #137 |
138. It was a struggle, but I found one. Pete's friend on myspace: |
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Speck Tater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 12:07 PM Response to Reply #26 |
45. And as Americans we all have the right to be obnoxious and overbearing. |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 01:08 PM Response to Reply #45 |
56. Speak for yourself. |
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Speck Tater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 04:13 PM Response to Reply #56 |
72. You sure have a lot of faith in your ideas. |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 03:32 PM Response to Reply #45 |
118. Hogwash and intellectual cowardice |
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tortoise1956 (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 11:19 PM Response to Reply #45 |
142. Well said, Speck Tater |
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hyphenate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 08:53 PM Response to Reply #7 |
127. I agree--that's my point |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 09:06 AM Response to Reply #5 |
24. +1 |
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Thats my opinion (804 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 11:15 AM Response to Reply #5 |
41. too bad that you seem stuck in a view of religion that is dying a slow deserved death. |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 12:43 PM Response to Reply #41 |
50. You keep claiming this when all surveys show US believers are overwhelmingly stuck in that same view |
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Humanist_Activist (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 12:50 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. And almost half believe we live in the "end times". n/t |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 04:21 PM Response to Reply #50 |
76. Because that's what they have to tell themselves. |
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Thats my opinion (804 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 07:51 PM Response to Reply #50 |
100. I never said it was the norm |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 10:14 PM Response to Reply #100 |
106. Good - and trust me its success will be inversely proportional to "atheist fundamentalism". nt |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 05:32 PM Response to Reply #41 |
86. A strange thing to hear coming from someone |
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Thats my opinion (804 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 07:54 PM Response to Reply #86 |
101. sorry,but you are just inaccurate. |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 08:37 PM Response to Reply #101 |
103. Oh, indeed? Here are some of your characterizations |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 04:40 PM Response to Reply #101 |
135. No response, eh? |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 02:14 AM Response to Original message |
6. Exactly who is trying "to disarm people of their inherent right to believe... |
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Thats my opinion (804 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 11:17 AM Response to Reply #6 |
42. Right-- that is true of any point of view, including yours nt |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 02:49 PM Response to Reply #42 |
66. Yes, so? |
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dimbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 03:45 AM Response to Original message |
8. Let's get Hitchens to stop going door to door leaving tracts. |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 09:14 AM Response to Reply #8 |
27. Yeah, and he should stop extorting people every week for tithes and... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 04:49 AM Response to Original message |
9. Deleted message |
Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 06:22 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Relgiousity is pervasive. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 07:01 AM Response to Original message |
11. Have you actually read any of the "New Atheists"? |
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Humanist_Activist (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 01:11 PM Response to Reply #11 |
57. I've never read them either, not really interested to be honest... |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 01:25 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Yep, I've only read The God Delusion. |
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Humanist_Activist (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 01:30 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. That is the funny thing, except for perhaps Christopher Hitchens, all of the rest... |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 07:29 AM Response to Original message |
13. Accurate and well said. |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 08:12 AM Response to Original message |
14. Yeah and they are so dangerous! |
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Kurmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 08:26 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Athiest fundies, every bit as dangerous as any other kind of fundie. |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 08:31 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Nice RW talking point. |
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okasha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 08:47 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Do you prefer the term "fanattic atheist?" |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 08:54 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. I don't think that's a word. |
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okasha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 09:24 AM Response to Reply #22 |
29. LOL--well, there are a few Mrs. Rochesters in the mix., blowing hot air. |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 05:39 PM Response to Reply #29 |
89. There you go confusing |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 08:33 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Oh, and it's time for this again: |
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Humanist_Activist (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 11:59 AM Response to Reply #16 |
44. Get back to me when atheists try to slit the throats of their children because the rapture isn't... |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 03:43 PM Response to Reply #16 |
71. Yes! Just as dangerous. |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 08:28 PM Response to Reply #16 |
148. Yep, just look at these atheists fundies |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 09:10 AM Response to Original message |
25. Did it ever occur to you that more aggressive atheism is just...necessary? |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 05:43 PM Response to Reply #25 |
91. It's probably not much of an exaggeration to say |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
28. I wrote a response to this several years ago... |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 10:55 AM Response to Reply #28 |
37. Bingo. n/t |
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starroute (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
31. Seems like New Atheism is more a civil rights movement than anything else |
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tortoise1956 (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 11:31 PM Response to Reply #31 |
143. Oh for the love of Murphy! |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
33. We're here, we're queer. We don't think the way you do. |
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okasha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 12:36 PM Response to Reply #33 |
49. Unless you are queer, please don't attempt to co-opt an LGBT slogan. |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 12:45 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Who are you, WordCop? |
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okasha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 01:04 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. I'm a queer woman. |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 01:08 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. You don't own words, or slogans. |
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okasha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 02:13 PM Response to Reply #55 |
63. You lack respect for those who've put their lives on the line |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 02:16 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. You don't seem to mind using offensive and ridiculous terms like "fundamentalist atheist".... |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 07:59 PM Response to Reply #63 |
102. You have no fucking clue how ironic your choice to take offense at those words is, do you? |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 03:41 PM Response to Reply #54 |
70. Yes - after all gays and queers never co-opted any existing words! |
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Thats my opinion (804 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
38. What about a positive new theism? |
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humblebum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 01:58 PM Response to Reply #38 |
62. "...the kind of religion these new atheists reject." is any religion that |
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humblebum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
60. Atheism tolerant, New Atheism intolerant. Huge difference. |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 03:14 PM Response to Reply #60 |
68. Old Atheism silent; New Atheism not silent. |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 03:32 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. +1 |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 04:18 PM Response to Reply #68 |
75. +10000 |
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humblebum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 04:37 PM Response to Reply #68 |
78. Depends on what you mean by Old atheism. If you are |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 06:39 PM Response to Reply #78 |
95. You're kidding, right? |
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LAGC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 05:18 AM Response to Reply #95 |
130. Yep, here's humblebum's picture of Dawkins: |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 04:18 PM Response to Reply #60 |
74. Utter horseshit |
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humblebum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 04:34 PM Response to Reply #60 |
77. deleted |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
73. I can see getting upset with Hitchens, if you are a believer |
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okasha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 05:36 PM Response to Reply #73 |
88. Dawkins has turned out to be a raving misogynist. |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 05:50 PM Response to Reply #88 |
93. You have very perverted criteria |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 06:27 PM Response to Reply #88 |
94. I dunno about "raving misogynist," but yes he has said some misogynist things |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 05:48 AM Response to Reply #94 |
113. If Dawkins were a "raving misogynist" |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
79. "my focus has never been to disarm people of their inherent right to believe" |
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humblebum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 04:47 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. Excuse me, but Dawkins advocated outlawing the teaching |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 04:49 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. Can I see a link for the Dawkins claim? |
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humblebum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 05:06 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. There was nothing comical about hate speech and he did not |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 05:28 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. The link claims |
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humblebum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 05:33 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. My point is that NEW atheism is very much about radical views and actions. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 05:48 PM Response to Reply #87 |
92. OK. What are the radical views and actions of new atheists? nt |
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humblebum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 06:47 PM Response to Reply #92 |
96. what is this, deja vu? Didn't we just discuss this? nt |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 06:51 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. You may have with someone else, but I don't remember discussing this with anyone |
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humblebum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 07:01 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. I believe the exhortation by Hitchens to show |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 07:10 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. Might be considered radical by some; I agree with that. nt |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 08:50 AM Response to Reply #98 |
115. That's one guy |
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humblebum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 04:56 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. deleted. sorry having posting problems. |
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dimbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
104. "Cet animal est très méchant: quand on l'attaque il se défend." |
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CrawlingChaos (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
119. New Atheism is largely War-on-Terror propaganda |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 08:13 PM Response to Reply #119 |
124. So-called "New Atheism" has focused just as closely |
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CrawlingChaos (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 09:21 PM Response to Reply #124 |
128. They most certainly have not |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 04:46 AM Response to Reply #128 |
129. Yawn |
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CrawlingChaos (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 03:29 PM Response to Reply #129 |
132. wow, that was quite a rebuttal |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 04:36 PM Response to Reply #132 |
134. Since you gave me nothing much to rebut |
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CrawlingChaos (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 07:38 PM Response to Reply #134 |
139. hardly cherry-picking |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 08:56 PM Response to Reply #139 |
140. Uh, yeah you did |
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CrawlingChaos (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 09:55 PM Response to Reply #140 |
141. you seem very confused |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 05:00 AM Response to Reply #141 |
145. Nice try |
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CrawlingChaos (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 06:21 AM Response to Reply #145 |
146. This rudeness |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 06:35 AM Response to Reply #146 |
147. And of course |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 08:15 PM Response to Reply #119 |
125. That might explain Hitchens' interest. |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
136. I rather dislike the term 'New Atheism'... |
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tortoise1956 (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 11:52 PM Response to Original message |
144. I'll get back to you on this |
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