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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 12:48 PM
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Count Saint Germain
Comte Saint GERMAIN

Real Name: Comte (Count) de Saint Germain

Identity/Class: Human mutate/magic user

Occupation: Count; agent of Dracula

Affiliations: former servant of Dracula; directed the Toys

Enemies: Cammy Brandeis, Max Parrish, Johnny and Sue Storm, Zarathos

Known Relatives: see comments

Aliases: Ascended Master, Der Wundermann, The Wonderman, Secret Master;
Germonster (via Johnny Storm)

Base of Operations: England and France in the 18th Century; possibly a number of countries over hundreds to even thousands of years.

First Appearance: (MU) <Dracula's ally> Before the Fantastic Four: The Storms#1 (December 2000)
<as alias of the Devil Doctor> Shang-Chi: Master of Kung Fu#1 (November, 2002)

Powers/Abilities: St. Germain is allegedly immortal, and possesses a mastery of alchemy and various forms of non-traditional medicines. He is skilled in numerous languages and is an adept in a number of forms of spiritualism.

St. Germain, sent by Dracula, was a non-human, golem-type of creature which may or may not be directly connected to the original. This being was also likely immortal, but also could transform into a type of earth elemental, able to grow in size and strength by absorbing earth, brick, masonry, and other minerals. He can also alter his form to some degree, sharpening his limbs into razor-sharp points, etc. As an earth elemental, he is vulnerable to water.
He did not appear to possess eyes, but instead used an unidentified pair of orbs which he placed into his eye sockets, perhaps when he wished to take an active role, or to assume his earth elemental form.

He also controlled the Toys.

History:

(History/Legend) - The Comte de Saint-Germain first emerged in 1745 England. In 1755, Saint-Germain showed up in Paris. Insinuating himself into the aristocracy, he claimed to live completely off of a strange elixir, which he sold at a large price. Saint-Germain claimed he did not require food or beverage to survive. He claimed to have lived during the Crusades, to have known Richard the Lion-Hearted. The Comte seemed to die in 1782, in the court of the Prince of Hesse Cassel. Of course, given his alleged immortality, a sighting of him in 1821 Vienna reputedly occurred, while in the book Souvenirs by Countess d'Adhemar stated the Comte appeared in France in 1793. She claimed more sightings up to 1820.
In 1845, Franz Graffer declared in his memoirs that he met Saint-Germain, and stated that it came to his attention that the Comte would appear in the Himalayas circa 1900. Circa 1900, reputed sightings of the Comte in Tibet occurred. He had attained the status of "ascended master" or "secret master". In the 1930's, in California's Mount Shasta, an appearance of the Comte tied to the "I AM" cult was reported. In 1972, a man named Richard Chanfray claimed to be the Comte. Chelsea Quinn Yarbro wrote a series of novels with the Comte de Saint-Germain as a vampire.

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/stgermai.htm

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It was at the end of the nineteenth century that the legend of Saint-Germain grew so inordinately. By reason of his knowledge, of the integrity of his life, of his wealth and of the mystery that surrounded him, he might reasonably have been taken for an heir of the first Rosicrucians, for a possessor of the Philosopher's Stone. But the theosophists and a great many occultists regarded him as a master of the great White Lodge of the Himalayas. The legend of these masters is well known. According to it there live in inaccessible lamaseries in Tibet certain wise men who possess the ancient secrets of the lost civilization of Atlantis. Sometimes they send to their imperfect brothers, who are blinded by passions and ignorance, sublime messengers to teach and guide them. Krishna, the Buddha, and Jesus were the greatest of these. But there were many other more obscure messengers, of whom Saint-Germain has been considered to be one.

"This pupil of Hindu and Egyptian hierophants, this holder of the secret knowledge of the East," theosophist Madam Blavatsky says of him, "was not appreciated for who he was. The stupid world has always treated in this way men who, like Saint-Germain, have returned to it after long years of seclusion devoted to study with their hands full of the treasure of esoteric wisdom and with the hope of making the world better, wiser and happier." Between 1880 and 1900 it was admitted among all theosophists, who at that time had become very numerous, particularly in England and America, that the Comte de Saint-Germain was still alive, that he was still engaged in the spiritual development of the West, and that those who sincerely took part in this development had the possibility of meeting him.

The brotherhood of Khe-lan was famous throughout Tibet, and one of their most famous brothers was an Englishman who had arrived one day during the early part of the twentieth century from the West. He spoke every language, including the Tibetan, and knew every art and science, says the tradition. His sanctity and the phenomena produced by him caused him to be proclaimed a Shaberon Master after a residence of but a few years. His memory lives to the present day among the Tibetans, but his real name is a secret with the Shaberons alone. Might not this mysterious traveler be the Comte de Saint-Germain?

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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 12:50 PM
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1. oh
i thought this was about the DJ saint germain

good stuff you should check it out
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 12:53 PM
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2. Very Interesting! Thanks! n/t
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 01:32 PM
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3. You're welcome.
Looks like only you and I think so, though.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 01:47 PM
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4. Don't let that bother you.
I've been on this board off and on for years and have had very few responses to my posts.

I do know that the world is a different place every time you try to communicate, than if you didn't try.

Plenty of people read posts, but don't reply.
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forgethell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 02:35 PM
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5. I find it interesting, too,
Edited on Wed Dec-22-04 02:40 PM by forgethell
alhough you might attract more response if you made a point. Preferably one that is controversial on this board.

You might want to check this out

http://www.mindspring.com/~ebowden/Yarbro/yarbro_homepage.htm

MERRY CHRISTMAS
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 04:51 PM
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6. Nah, I just put it up for those who might be interested.
Responses or conversation isn't all that important. I was just somewhat surprised that it didn't at least start an argument. Ha!
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 05:52 PM
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7. Mais non! Le Comte de Marvel, c'est un ripoff de la bande dessinée Rodeo
de 1982.

http://www.coolfrenchcomics.com/saintgermain.htm

Un peu plus prochain à l'histoire originale, je crois.

Vraiment, il est immortel, si il y'a un buck de faire!
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 06:15 PM
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8. Beats the Cliff Notes
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