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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 09:46 PM
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Freedom From The Known
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Freedom From The Known

THE WORKS OF JIDDU KRISHNAMURTI

"The constant assertion of belief is an indication of fear."

Westerners should not confuse his Eastern-sounding name with any form of guru, or religious figure. Krishnamurti's personal story starts in a traditional, mystical context, but has a rather surprising outcome.

This man is a consummate, erudite thinker who speaks with a reflective precision and profound depth. Yet, his finger of comprehension points gently, but firmly away from the virtual prisons of symbolic existence and conventional, mistaken identity.

His perennial philosophy is delivered with a unique, Zen-like mannerism that is infused with the Socratic method and clarity. Krishnamurti expresses insights that tend to remind us that what we seek is more obvious and imminent than we ever imagine, or are told. We are reminded that seeking, in itself, can be the ultimate distraction, or even a stubborn avoidance, of what we profess to want.

In these tumultuous times, his message is meaningful and transformative. His kind invitation is to come think with him, rather than to follow and parrot what you are told. With political turmoil and confusion all around, a stroll with Krishnamurti down the avenue of sincere inquiry can be refreshing and empowering ... lest we become trapped in a dualistic struggle where we are only serving the cause of being a mirror-image in our reaction to our enemies and opposition. They teach us something in that respect. In a way, we are them and they are us. Observe.

"Hitler and Mussolini were only the primary spokesmen for the attitude of domination and craving for power that are in the heart of almost everyone. Until the source is cleared, there will always be confusion and hate, wars and class antagonisms."

"Freedom and love go together. Love is not a reaction. If I love you because you love me, that is mere trade, a thing to be bought in the market; it is not love. To love is not to ask anything in return, not even to feel that you are giving something - and it is only such love that can know freedom."

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http://sensiblyeclectic.com/b2evolution/blogs/index.php/mainsite/2004/12/25/p1667#more1667
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 09:52 PM
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1. freedom is the craving of the soul
and to love with no expectation of return is to understand. The wings of the heart of my avitar represent independence and indifference-independence from having to have a reward, indifference in raising above the feelings of the ego.
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 10:11 PM
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2. Sounds like you have made a great deal of progress
along your path.

This sort of understanding is remarkable, to me, in that it now seems so obvious and self-evident, while once it seemed absurd. When was it, exactly, that the realization was made? Why can't I point to it and say "then"? Or, perhaps it came in a tide of realization and understanding? It may not matter, but I wonder just the same.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 09:01 AM
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3. I think you can't say when things happen
because when realization comes, you're not really 'here' but more with the spirit, which is as close as I can come to explaining a mystical experience. If, like me, you've had a series of them over the course of your life, you know they ofthen come unexpectedly, and each time guide you a little bit further down the path.
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 10:29 AM
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4. Well, there are such things as epiphanies,
but I think, usually, it is more of an easing into a new way of thinking, like easing into a warm bath: it takes a little time.

Sometimes things come in a flash.

The lesson, for me, is that these things don't come at all if not sought.
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