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Ando (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 11:20 AM Original message |
The ugly FAITH thread |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
1. So I've seen both sides attack |
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Ando (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 11:42 AM Response to Reply #1 |
7. not my point |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 11:48 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. As I pointed out in post #8, there are different kinds of "faith." |
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Ando (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 11:57 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. agreed |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 12:13 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. I guess I just fail to see the point. |
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Ando (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 12:32 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. you're on to something |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 02:00 PM Response to Reply #20 |
32. Labels |
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Ando (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 02:17 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. understood |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 03:14 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Help me understand your goal. |
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Ando (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 04:46 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. certainly not the latter |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 04:54 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. What I meant by that was... |
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Ando (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 05:07 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. almost |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 05:09 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. I already was a Christian. |
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Ando (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 05:21 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. not my implication |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 05:27 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Luther was a rabid anti-Semite and a lunatic. |
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Ando (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 05:34 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. sounds familiar |
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Tux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 07:05 PM Response to Reply #7 |
61. Consider this |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
2. no one can persuade someone to FAITH - so why discuss an uncivil |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 11:41 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. your reply is part of the problem |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 12:11 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. How so - is it sniping to say man does not come to God by Reason? |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 12:16 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. logic is actually subject to some very rigorous proofs |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 12:35 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. LOL - "pseudointellectualism" - I love it! I taught my kids that that |
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atreides1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
3. Faith is Personal |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 11:44 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. "Everyone has faith in something" |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 04:31 PM Response to Reply #8 |
39. same faith |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 04:44 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. That's the problem. |
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Ando (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 04:54 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. a prime example |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 05:06 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. The mix is the trick |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 05:16 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. Don't dismiss the idea of walking through walls. |
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Ando (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 05:29 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. well, I could provide you some |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 09:00 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. The examples you cite are far from convincing. |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 07:51 PM Response to Reply #41 |
54. trotsky: |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 04:35 PM Response to Reply #8 |
40. Need to clarify the difference between faith and belief |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 08:47 PM Response to Reply #40 |
62. Faith is the capacity to believe in what you know is false. |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 11:48 AM Response to Reply #3 |
10. agreed |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 12:21 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. LOL - as you proselytize the merits of your beliefs you do not feel the |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 12:31 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. oy, but in other words |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 12:39 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. There is no fuzzy line except when folks claim truth from science that |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
4. well I agree with the title at least |
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atreides1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 12:00 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. Good Points |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 12:41 PM Response to Reply #12 |
24. Excellent |
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Ando (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 12:11 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. stereotypes |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 12:25 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. that's an enlightened viewpoint |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 12:40 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Very True - I promise no more growls - until the next time! |
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Ando (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 12:45 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. the growling is getting louder |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 01:46 PM Response to Reply #4 |
30. Doomed tactic |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
6. I was a nurse in a big city |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 06:04 PM Response to Reply #6 |
57. The mind/body connection is too important to ignore. |
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Stunster (984 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
26. The atheistic materialist faith |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 01:39 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Of course it is acceptible to say such things |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
27. A personal theory about faith |
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Ando (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 01:48 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. very interesting! |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 02:02 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Atheism and belief |
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Ando (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 02:40 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. truth and lies |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 02:56 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Never said it was free of dogma |
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Ando (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 03:08 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. good point |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
29. Okay, Ando, here's my experience of faith |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 08:03 PM Response to Reply #29 |
55. Great post, Lydia |
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Stunster (984 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-05 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
53. Naturalism and supernaturalism |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-13-05 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
58. The quote was TOTALLY uncalled for in a RELIGION AND THEOLOGY forum |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 04:01 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. I'll have some Pepto Bismol sent over right away, Selwynn. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
59. You might have had the spine to address me to my face, Ando. |
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Moderator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
63. Locking |
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