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Popol Vuh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 08:09 PM
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WOW!! Trading Spouses Crazy Lady
I feel sorry for the kids in this video. Especially the look on the little girl's face.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoPW5RsMftQ&search=Trading%20Spouses

:crazy:







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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 08:18 PM
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1. Best part of the whole thing is the last 5 seconds where you realize....
...that that crazy Bitch Marguaritte Perrin decides to take the money to thin out out nasty, fat ass. Oh man, they hypocracy in those two episodes- it's archetypical.

PB
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 08:18 PM
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2. Religion truly is a pathology...
This woman needs to be committed.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 08:50 PM
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4. sigh...
No, it's not.

This woman suffers from a religious disease, obviously, but not all believers do.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 09:16 PM
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7. there are different degrees
very different
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 09:18 PM
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8. I gotta stop doing that.
The other evil atheists will kick me out if I blow our image.
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Evoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 09:21 PM
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10. Why!
Why are you sticking up for the christians! THE CHRISTIANS!!!! *spit*

Lol...kidding. I agree with you. Even without religion, this lady would probably be a nutbar. Its gotta be physical damage of some sort..maybe a chemical imbalance.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 09:25 PM
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11. I think people like her
are so scared of what they don't understand that they cling to something like religious dogma because it makes them feel safe.

Like a binky.

What we just witnessed was what happens when someone takes the binky away from her.
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 09:35 PM
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12. Heretic! Burn her!
I seem to remember getting one of these from you...

:spank:

It's only fair.

In all seriousness though, I agree with you. If all believers were like that, then it would be a fair statement to say that religion is a sort of psychopathology. But not all believers are even remotely that bat-shit insane. Thank God.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 09:42 PM
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13. Can you imagine living with someone who thinks like that?
You'd have to be as bat shit insane as she is.

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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 09:51 PM
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15. That's the thing though!
The rest of the family - the father and daughters - seemed relatively sane. Of course, Charlie Manson would probably seem relatively sane next to her.
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bluesbassman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 12:46 AM
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21. I think "religion" only magnifies your true character.
Similar to one achieving sudden wealth. This poor woman has serious emotional and mental problems that would have manifested under just about any circumstances, IMO. But it appears that she latched on to some very fundie influence, and her psychosis vented in what is seen on the video. So did "religion" cause her to be the way she is? I don't think it was the "cause", but rather the accelerant for an underlying problem.

And thanks, bmus, Evoman, Skittles and varkam for your insightful posts on this subject. I always look forward to joining discussions with you.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 12:55 AM
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22. Back at ya, bluesbassman!
I think religious fundies target people like her because they know they make excellent soldiers.

Jeez, you don't even have to feed them, just add any brand of hateful dogma and water.
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bluesbassman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 01:03 AM
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23. Not only that...
But buffy posted downthread how she now has her own website and has been making appearances on other shows. Sheeze, just what theists need to help get God's "message" out. :sarcasm:
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 01:08 AM
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27. I saw that in charlie's post.
The fact that she's getting rich off this is why I said there really is no god. :D
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 10:59 AM
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37. Or is it proof of the Devil? LOL
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 10:48 PM
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39. I think the Devil would be ashamed of her.
He'd probably lock her away in the attic like some crazy old aunt.

(no offense to crazy old aunts, of course, I may be one someday)
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nemo137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 01:05 AM
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24. I did, for several years.
My father went through what can only be described as his batshit crazy phase (where he badgered me into tossing my two banker's boxes of comics) before calming into a slightly less batshit crazy fundementalist. We also stopping going to church during this time (since we couldn't find one that suited Dad), so I was left on my own to explore and develop my own religious leanings.

Those were interesting years.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 01:07 AM
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26. Egad.
What a nightmare for a kid.

What did you finally end up being? (I'm guessing not a fundie because you're here)
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nemo137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 01:32 AM
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28. Some Breed of Christian.
Culturally, I'm pretty much the Lutheran I raised as before Dad went fundie. Theologically, I couldn't tell you. Some days, I'm not sure if I count as Christian. I believe in a Creator, for sure, although not in the sense literalists do. I believe in some sort of personal God, and I believe that the most important thing is to act out of selfless love towards my fellow humans. Other than that, I get confused. I'm not sure about the Divinity of Jesus, or the trinity.

Not a fundie, no. But I've spent some good drinking sessions with a friend from a similar religious background trying to answer that question. (That's how you know you're a failure as a college student. You don't go to the bars to pick up girls, you get drunk with your best-friend-since-you-were-ten and talk theology and music arcana).
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 01:41 AM
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29. Heh heh.
I wouldn't call that being a failure as a college student, I'd call it being an adult.

I guess I'm lucky to have always been an atheist even though it does limit my understanding of religious faith.

We never talked about stuff like that where I grew up.
My friends went to mass on Sunday, sometimes on Wednesday or Saturday nights, too, and I didn't.

I never met a fundie until after I left home at 17.

What a rude awakening that was.

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nemo137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 01:49 AM
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30. It does take some getting used to.
Edited on Mon May-22-06 01:53 AM by nemo137
To be put it mildly. I was fortunate enough to have a fundie father, a Liberation Theology Catholic mother, an agnostic grandfather, an immigrant Catholic grandmother, a Presbyterian grandfather, a Lutheran grandma, a Muslim uncle, and a Pagan aunt, as well as several atheist teachers who were mentors to me. Religion wasn't so much talked about with me growing up as much as it was just always there. I mean, I went to sunday school, I went to confirmation class (Da pulled us out of that church the sunday before I was supposed to be confirmed, which always stung a bit), but the real education came from going to church with relatives or talking with them or my teachers and trying to puzzle it out for myself. It's an experience I'd recommend to anyone, while being totally at a loss about how to replicate it.

edited for inexcusably poor word choice.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 01:56 AM
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31. Sounds like you had quite the variety growing up.
Edited on Mon May-22-06 02:05 AM by beam me up scottie
Too bad the topic of religion is so tainted by the poison from the American Taliban that it cannot be discussed civilly outside (and sometimes inside) of DU.

The closets here in the bible belt are full of atheists and other assorted non-christians.
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nemo137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 02:00 AM
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32. I take the somewhat Pollyannaish view
that as places become more diverse, as more atheists start coming out of the closet, as we have more Muslims and Hindus and Sikhs and Buddhists and Taoists come to this country and set up shop, we'll have much more tolerance of religion, and the Pharisee wing of my faith will have much less support.

Or, in my less joyous moments, I figure they'll keep walling off into their suburbs, and the cities will get more cosmopolitan and accepting as they get more mud-stuck and bigoted. Could go either way.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 11:02 AM
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38. We have that in common
My first roommate in college was also, the year before, "Miss Delaware."

A more hate-filled racist, bigotted individual would have been difficult to find. And a fundamentalist. I couldn't bear to be in the same room with her. I had been so sheltered before that.

She died in 1972, in an accident. She drowned with her husband in reservoir and they didn't find them for a month. I couldn't sleep for weeks because I was afraid she was coming back for me. She was a piece of work.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 10:54 PM
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40. That must have been a terrible year for you.
Edited on Tue May-23-06 10:54 PM by beam me up scottie
I don't think I've ever really recovered from the shock of encountering true racists, misogynists and homophobes for the first time.

They still manage to surprise and disgust me even now, especially when they automatically assume that I'm like them and will endorse their hateful comments.:wtf:
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nemo137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 08:00 PM
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43. That's the worst.
When someone makes a snide comment about "them" in the full expectation that you'll agree.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 05:48 PM
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46. I've lost more friends that way.
Because I can't let that go.

I learned a lot about people that I thought I knew when Vermont was was caught up in the civil union controversy.

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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 10:58 AM
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36. Is there any possibility she was
hamming it up and putting the insanity on to make "good television"?
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 10:55 PM
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41. I wonder.
I wouldn't have thought so until I saw that website. You could be on to something.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 10:56 AM
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34. Thank you
She terrifies me!
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 10:57 PM
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42. I hope nobody let their children watch those episodes.
Although it may be a good scare for older children, kind of a "this is you in twenty years if you listen to hate speech" lesson.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 09:18 PM
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9. People that nutty often were
back in the old days of warehousing people in state mental institutions. Then civil liberties lawyers got wild hairs and narrowed the definition of insanity to the unworkable stage and freed them all to vote Repug.

This poor lady is not a happy person. There are a lot of medications that would help her a lot and prevent her kids from being so screwed up they're incapable of functioning.

Anybody who is hysterically screeching "DORK SIDED!" at everybody around her is in real trouble.

At least the husband and children seem to be figuring out Mom is nuts. That may help them later on.

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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 10:56 AM
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33. Moderation in all things
including moderation.

This woman is truly sick. But I don't think "religion is a pathology."

Personally, I'm feeling well, thank you.
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Clovis Sangrail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 08:33 PM
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3. wow
irrational insane screaming parent
brings back memories
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jokerman93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 08:51 PM
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5. Yep.
Gittin' dork-sadded can really f'k yer shit up. :evilgrin:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 09:14 PM
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6. sick, sick, sick
that was child abuse; that little girl looked very scared
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 09:50 PM
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14. I feel sorry for her
In one sense, I admire her certainty and conviction - life must be pretty good to be that certain about everything all the time. However, it completely prevents her from making any sort of meaningful connection with any individual unless it involves God.

I seem to remember the episode in question. The other family floored me with their open-mindedness. While she was over there and carrying on about the dark-sidedness, she wanted to take the whole family to church. Without missing a beat the father agreed with the rationale that it would make her feel more comfortable. Man, I wish I was as open-minded and cool as he was.

I think though that, whether she realizes it or not, she didn't flip out in the clip because they didn't believe in God. Before they went back the two mothers met and talked about the time they had. The other mom talked about how close she felt to Margaret's daughters and how much of a good time they had. I think that really upset Margaret. I think the deeper story might be that she is an incredibly insecure woman who, like BMUS said, uses religion as a security blanket. Something that she can cling to that makes her comfortable (which would explain the strength of her convictions).

Then again, it's "reality" tv. I noticed that whenever Margaret was on screen they played some very foreboding music - "Dum dum bum dum".

Then again, she did try to talk the other family's kids into believing in God and going to church. I ain't cool with that.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 11:41 PM
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16. "she did try to talk the other family's kids into believing in God "
The kids were sophisticated about that too. They noticed that Marguerite wasn't the least bit open minded about anything they believed in (the solstice festival, the pentagram, gargoyles, mandalas, astrology, etc.), but then she wanted them to listen to her proselytize about her religion and go to church. They decided after what she put them through they weren't going to play.

Smart kids.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 12:18 AM
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17. Her name is Marguerite?
That's awful.

What a waste of a beautiful name.

Now thousands of people won't be able to name their daughters Marguerite because they'll always be reminded of Witchy-poo.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 12:25 AM
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18. Marguerite has a fan following
http://www.margueriteperrin.com

Turn your speakers down before you click.

Or turn them up and groove to Marguerite, Why Can't You Be Sweet?
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 12:28 AM
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19. Oh dear FSM...
She's getting rich off this.

There truly is no god.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 12:28 AM
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20. She has her own website
http://www.margueriteperrin.com/

You know her as the God Warrior mom with a mission from the TV show Trading Spouses where she proudly displayed to everyone that she wasn't afraid to stand up to the tainted, psychic gargoyles of the world by expressing her religious beliefs and morals.Since then, Marguerite's life has been rather busy making appearances on such popular television shows like The Tonight Show, Access Hollywood, The Biggest Loser, Inside Edition, OK Magazine, Reality Remix and many more radio tours and magazine interviews.


For someone who ranted that she didn't want to take the money from Trading Spouses because it was "tainted" she sure has spent a lot of time captitalizing on the fame the show brought her. I guess her morals aren't all they were cracked up to be.

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bluesbassman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 01:05 AM
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25. Great catch Buffy! n/t
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 10:57 AM
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35. I think it's more...
a reflection of our culture then any personality trait that she has. Kind of like how Paris Hilton got famous.
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pagandem4justice Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 02:16 PM
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44. Off topic but...
LOVE your sig pic! :-)
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 05:44 PM
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45. I've been wrong about a lot of things ...
... and I may be wrong about this, but it sounds like this is a put-on.

I'm well aware that there are some seriously disturbed people in this world, and that a sadly large proportion is made up of religious maniacs. But Marguerite Perrin ... it just doesn't make sense.

I know, this is in the same league as those bogus "Smell Tests" and "Baloney Detectors", and I distrust even my own intuition most of the time, but this case is pretty ... jarring.

So, am I right? Wrong? Off my meds?

--p!
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