Answering the Call--DLC asks Democrats to talk about Religion in America

[station agent]

Well, I'm a religion scholar and a blogger looking to synthesize a range of opinions among Democrats. Please come and post your Religion in America experience and opinions about how we should proceed. Thanks.

Please post in comments or send an email to the address given in post.

http://icestationtango.blogspot.com/2006/07/answering-call-dlc-calls-on-democrats_24.html

[beam me up scottie]

1. I'm not religious,

but I'm kicking this because it deserves more attention.

I hope you get some replies.

[cosmik debris]

2. I'll talk about religion

It scares the shit out of me. I never have learned how to tell which religions to be afraid of, so I fear them all. My experience with religion in America is that it is a dangerous influence that threatens to destroy our democracy. If a genie granted me one wish it would be that all religion would disappear.

Now, aren't you glad you asked?

[beam me up scottie]

3. Even though I agree with you 100%,

I don't think that's quite what he had in mind.

[cosmik debris]

4. Perhaps we could get an explanation

of what he really wanted. I provided an opinion and a view from my experience. I thought that was what he wanted. Maybe he just wanted affirmation and reinforcement of some preconceived notion. Lets see how the OP responds.

[beam me up scottie]

5. Hey, I'm game.

I'm just looking for safe haven, have you been out there tonight?

[cosmik debris]

6. I must have missed your point

Out where? (I live in Waco, Texas. It is always out there)

[beam me up scottie]

7. Out in the I/P forum.

I mean, GD.

It's like living in Texas squared.

[cosmik debris]

8. I avoid that forum because I disagree with everyone there

And they don't want to hear my opinion and I don't want to hear theirs. The world is a better place because I decide to stay out of that shit.

[beam me up scottie]

9. You mean GD?

Or the I/P forum?

Because unfortunately, it's become like kudzu and has taken over all of the main forums.

[cosmik debris]

10. I avoid all discussion of the I/P issue

I don't see any way for either side to be worthy of my attention. I don't like any of them and nobody cares what I like!

[beam me up scottie]

11. I stayed out of it until tonight.

I just don't get it.

I'm an atheist, who's side am I supposed to be on, anyway?

[cosmik debris]

12. You are supposed to be on the side of the children

who are dieing, but they are secondary to the politics. Oops, I discussed the taboo topic.

Do they want you to distinguish between dead Palestinian children and dead Jewish children? What is the point.

In America tonight 13 million children went to bed with inadequate nutrition. It makes me wish that there was a god and that he judged us instantly on how we treat children. A little Instant Karma would be quite refreshing. And it would certainly end the debate on the I/P issue.

[beam me up scottie]

14. But which children does God like better?

Isn't that what it comes down to?

God said this, God said that...shut the fuck up, God.

Sorry, believers, I have to vent or I'll start to hemorrhage internally.

Either that or I'll go out and run over some red state freepers; and my dad already told me he's not bailing me out anymore.

[cosmik debris]

18. I think god is an atheist

He sees all children as equal.

[beam me up scottie]

20. I could respect a God like that.

But his followers are fubar.

[cosmik debris]

22. So I guess we agree

that if more of his followers were atheists, the world would be a better place.

[beam me up scottie]

24. The standard reply is that religion isn't responsible.

People would find other reasons to hate each other.

Right.

I can't see how anyone can look at what's going on right now and expect me to believe that these people would be slaughtering each other over a dried up and useless piece of land for any other reason.

[cosmik debris]

25. And that is why I try to avoid the issue

To me, they are all making excuses. I really don't care why they kill children. Race, real estate, religion, sex, money, power, who cares? I just want them to STOP! One excuse is as good as the next. And I don't want to hear any of them. And anyone who thinks their excuse is better is automatically WRONG!

People who think that killing children is justifiable under the circumstances are, in my opinion, IN-fuckin-SANE! Hopelessly, pathologically, terminally insane.

But hey, you know what they say, atheists have no morals.

[beam me up scottie]

26. That's right.

We can't be trusted.

Just ask this guy.

[charlie]

27. If that guy

had rented to this guy, think he'd learn something from his experience? Naaaah...

[beam me up scottie]

29. He was obviously framed, charlie.

The evil atheist lawyers at the ACLU are responsible for this, just ask my boss.

[NMMNG]

28. Go read my reply before it gets deleted

I think you'll like it.

[beam me up scottie]

31. You guys crack me up!

"You don't see BLAMMO!!! KABOOM!!!! coming out of atheist quarters."

I'm listening to Vivaldi at low volume, eating my organic fruit and I will make sure to feed the strays and the birds outside before I turn in.

Not much BLAMMO, I'm afraid.

[NMMNG]

33. I have to say

I have been holding back of late, but tonight I just felt the need to let 'er rip.


I think I might just listen to some Marilyn Manson.

[cosmik debris]

30. Well, that's good, but I gotta get some sleep

I was waiting for the OP to check in and elaborate on the request, but I guess I will have to wait until tomorrow. There may even be some interesting responses to the "god is an atheist" post. I'll bet Southpawkicker has something pointless to say about it.

Thanks for your time and thought.

[beam me up scottie]

32. G'night!

Well, I guess a hijacked thread is better than one with no responses, anyway. :D

[cosmik debris]

21. And another thing

I think I read this in this very forum: When god went into real estate, he made a big mistake!

[beam me up scottie]

23. I've never heard that.

But it's so true.

[Random_Australian]

13. Remember, we're all actually on the side of lasting peace.

There are just some people who think that the way to get that peace is by shooting the other side and by saying how different they are to the people on the other side who think that the way to get peace is by shooting the other side.

Because, they are obviously different. I mean, see that pea in that pod next to the other one? It has a dimple. Well so does the other one, but that's not the point. They're as different as those peas. Perhaps even differenter. :)

[beam me up scottie]

15. It boggles the mind.

Over religion.

All that, because of so-called peaceful religion.

[cosmik debris]

16. Not one, Not two,

But Three peaceful religions! What wonderful symbiosis!

[Random_Australian]

17. Two wrongs don't make a right, and three religions that were supposed

to be helpful and stuff but have since become the pawn of nefarious men make for shit peace talks.

IMO.

[beam me up scottie]

19. I've always been an atheist.

I've spent my entire life looking at the problems caused by religion and going :wtf:

[station agent]

34. Clarifiaction on what I'm looking for

Be as broad or specific as you want. The next phase will be narrower based on ideas given here. I'm hoping this research leads me to better focus my writing on the subject to areas that may be getting ignored.

[station agent]

35. Sure. That's a valid response.