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The Sushi Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 04:58 PM Original message |
Is being an Atheist the equivalent of being Gay to a Fundamentalist? |
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Mojambo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
1. You're either with them or against them. n/t |
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WHEN CRABS ROAR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
2. Makes you a target |
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Democrats_win (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
3. Technically they aren't supposed to judge those they witness to. |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
4. Yes. |
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SPKrazy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
5. Liberal Christians May Not Be Any Better In Their Eyes |
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Jo March (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-25-06 02:57 PM Response to Reply #5 |
71. Yep. Liberal Christian = nonChristian |
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metamorph (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
6. I think you're hanging with the wrong crowd. |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 05:31 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. It's not a crowd. |
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Jo March (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-25-06 03:02 PM Response to Reply #10 |
73. BMUS, get thee to Asheville, NC ASAP! |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-25-06 06:52 PM Response to Reply #73 |
77. It sounds wonderful. |
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Jo March (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-26-06 11:09 AM Response to Reply #77 |
84. I hated that he left |
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salvorhardin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 05:45 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. I live in upstate NY |
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eallen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
7. No, being an atheist is worse, in their eyes. |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
8. Fundys hate/fear everything that is different |
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evlbstrd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
9. Worse. |
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OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 05:52 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Yeah, that one |
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evlbstrd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 06:04 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Maybe more than the religious bigotry. |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 06:10 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Yep, they hate liberal veterans. |
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evlbstrd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 06:19 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Whatcha might call an inconvenient truth. |
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Jo March (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-25-06 02:59 PM Response to Reply #9 |
72. I get that, too! I HATE it! |
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ShrewdLiberal (144 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
15. I'm an evolutionary theist with scientific pantheism at the core... |
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squarepants (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 06:34 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. The answer to that question is |
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mdpod (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 09:59 PM Response to Reply #15 |
25. But what caused P? It exists. |
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Random_Australian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-26-06 12:33 AM Response to Reply #15 |
83. Wanna argue that everything must be caused? |
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okasha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
17. No. Get back to me when |
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The Sushi Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 06:27 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. All are very valid points |
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OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 06:36 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Ding, Ding, Ding, |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 02:36 PM Response to Reply #17 |
67. Here in TX, I can't serve on a jury |
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The Sushi Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-25-06 01:16 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. is it law ? |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-25-06 03:03 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. Not just law... |
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The Sushi Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-25-06 11:08 PM Response to Reply #74 |
82. I think you should start a thread on this subject !! |
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okasha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-26-06 06:38 PM Response to Reply #82 |
86. It was overturned 45 years ago |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-26-06 09:34 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. Did Brown v. Board end racism, okasha? n/t |
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okasha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-26-06 10:22 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. The question was not one of prejudice. It was one of legal restrictions. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-27-06 06:13 PM Response to Reply #89 |
91. Did you forget the OP, okasha? |
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okasha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-27-06 06:20 PM Response to Reply #91 |
92. I was replying to your post, specifically, not the OP's. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-27-06 06:22 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. I was trying to stick to the topic of the thread. |
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okasha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-27-06 07:06 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. The point is that you were presenting misinformation. |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-27-06 07:16 PM Response to Reply #94 |
95. We need to reference the Civil Rights Act when citing racist legislation? |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-27-06 07:16 PM Response to Reply #94 |
96. Those sections are still in those states' constitutions, are they not? |
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okasha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-27-06 09:10 PM Response to Reply #96 |
103. One more time. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-28-06 06:49 AM Response to Reply #103 |
104. Oooh, SO close... |
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okasha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 09:15 PM Response to Reply #104 |
106. So where's your civil rights movement? |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-01-06 02:28 AM Response to Reply #106 |
107. trotsky was answering the op, you're the one who's "bitching and moaning". |
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okasha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-26-06 06:26 PM Response to Reply #67 |
85. Untrue |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-27-06 07:27 PM Response to Reply #85 |
97. "good moral character"? |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-27-06 07:31 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. okasha's victim-hood trumps that of atheists, trotsky. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-27-06 07:36 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. In a way, it reminds me of the Louis Farrakhans of the world. |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-27-06 07:41 PM Response to Reply #99 |
100. Gays and atheists. But atheism is a choice, remember? |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-27-06 07:47 PM Response to Reply #100 |
101. Oh that's right - how could I forget? |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-27-06 07:58 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. Some people have issues with atheists. |
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goddess40 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-25-06 05:16 PM Response to Reply #17 |
76. You win |
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okasha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-26-06 06:40 PM Response to Reply #76 |
87. See above, Torcaso v Watkins. |
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Akim (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 06:45 PM Response to Original message |
21. I only know that they would really hate a gay atheist. n/t |
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neebob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
22. Ask me again when you can do so |
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mdpod (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
23. I second that sentiment. |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 10:38 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Welcome to DU! |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 11:06 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Welcome to DU, mdpod! |
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Akim (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
24. They would also agree that both gay and atheist could be "converted." n/t |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 10:40 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Some DUers think both are a "choice". |
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SPKrazy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 11:06 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Now I'm Asking A Serious Question |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 11:16 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. I didn't choose to not believe, I can't. Choice had nothing to do with it. |
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SPKrazy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 08:59 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Okay, I Do Believe |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-21-06 11:36 PM Response to Reply #33 |
63. Yes, I understand. |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 11:18 AM Response to Reply #30 |
41. Maybe this analogy would work, you decide |
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neebob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 11:24 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Make it a magic needle in a haystack and I'm good. nt |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 11:29 AM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Isn't that sort of understood? |
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neebob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 11:44 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. I was thinking a normal needle |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 11:47 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Well, that is a problem with analogies |
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neebob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 11:51 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Oh, come on. |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 12:28 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Well, I wouldn't say brilliant. |
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SPKrazy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 01:03 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. Aw, It's Not The Needle That Is Intelligent |
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SPKrazy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 01:01 PM Response to Reply #41 |
49. I Would Say That I See Glimpses Of The Needle From Time To Time |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-21-06 11:24 PM Response to Reply #41 |
61. No, sorry. I never looked for needles. Didn't know I was supposed to. |
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neebob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-23-06 11:58 PM Response to Reply #61 |
66. Not everyone is looking for the needle |
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goddess40 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-25-06 08:08 PM Response to Reply #30 |
78. I'm with you, I just never could bring my self to buy in to it |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-25-06 08:16 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. The idea that "believing in gods" is a choice is begging the question. |
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goddess40 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-25-06 08:30 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. Most can't escape it because it becomes part of their person |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-25-06 08:46 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. I think that's accurate. |
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zonmoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-08-06 12:35 PM Response to Reply #30 |
110. I stopped believing because the religion I was raised in didn't make any |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 11:28 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. I think you might be oversimplifying the notions of choice |
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SPKrazy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 09:10 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. See, It Is Interesting |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 09:33 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Even very intelligent individuals... |
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SPKrazy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 10:16 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Myself, I Have Experiences |
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neebob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 01:19 AM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Where'd you get all that? |
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SPKrazy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 09:17 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. I Don't Think It Was A Guess |
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neebob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 10:13 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Okay, miss my point. |
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SPKrazy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 10:22 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. I'm Sure You Are Incredibly Interesting |
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neebob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 10:50 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Thank you |
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SPKrazy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 12:58 PM Response to Reply #40 |
48. See, You Still Are Fascinating! |
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The Sushi Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 01:27 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. Some of us think of it as "Do you feel it or not" |
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SPKrazy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 08:57 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. Okay |
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neebob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 09:30 PM Response to Reply #48 |
55. Thanks for clarifying that |
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Random_Australian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 10:19 PM Response to Reply #29 |
56. It was a choice for me! But my psyche is a *little* abnormal. |
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neebob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 10:54 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. I agree that skepticism can develop |
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Random_Australian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-21-06 01:20 AM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Though normally, what they want is more subconscious than conscious. |
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neebob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-21-06 11:16 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Why do you say that? |
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Random_Australian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 07:17 PM Response to Reply #60 |
68. I was basing it on a thread where I asked people why they chose their |
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neebob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 09:58 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. I see what you mean. |
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The Sushi Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-21-06 10:23 PM Response to Reply #27 |
59. . |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-21-06 11:25 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. . |
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The Sushi Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
52. Some of us think of it as "Do you feel it or not" |
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Tyo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
53. Being both gay AND an atheist I must really annoy them n/t |
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Jo March (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-25-06 03:13 PM Response to Reply #53 |
75. I used to want to tell my fundie dad that I was gay, atheist & (drum roll) |
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NAO (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-22-06 01:29 AM Response to Original message |
64. Gays, Atheists, Good Husbands/Fathers, Wife Beaters, Murderers, Nice |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-23-06 06:15 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. You make an important point. |
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dattaswamI (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-27-06 01:52 AM Response to Original message |
90. Atheism |
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The Sushi Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 08:39 PM Response to Reply #90 |
105. Sorry but i could only follow your first sentence. |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-01-06 02:31 AM Response to Reply #105 |
108. Ahem. |
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The Sushi Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-03-06 01:48 PM Response to Reply #108 |
109. Now i get it! |
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