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dattaswamI Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 02:10 AM
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God will feel happy if the souls are happy even if human incarnation is no
God will feel happy if the souls are happy even if human incarnation is not recognised

Even if the human incarnation is not recognized and not served, God will feel happy if the souls are happy. The father feels happy if the children are settled and peaceful living with happiness, even if they are not recognizing and serving Him when He comes to their house. Therefore God will not mistake you if you do not recognize and serve Him when He comes to your world in human form. He will feel happy if you are living with happiness. Therefore, He thinks about the ways by which you will be settled and live with happiness. He will not mention about the duty to serve Him when you are disturbed in this world.

Arjuna was very much disturbed and therefore the Lord started with self-attainment (Atma Yoga) only, which is the way to attain happiness and peace. He did not start with the sacrifice or service to God (Paramatma Yoga). When the child is disturbed, it needs the help from the parents in the form of sacrifice of work or sacrifice of wealth. Initially the parents help the child by doing both these but this cannot be continuous. As the child grows, he or she has to stand on own legs and settle in life. After such settled life only, the parents expect the child to serve them.

Similarly the soul has to attain peace and happiness standing on its own legs and this is the second chapter of Gita in which the self-sufficiency is to be achieved without any dependence. In Atma Yoga, the Lord in the second chapter of Gita taught about the self-realization which is the attainment of peace and happiness with the self-effort. When the life is settled, the issues are expected to serve the parents by sacrificing work (Karma Sanyasa) and by sacrificing fruit of work (Karma Phala Tyaga). The parents are not in need of any wealth. Still they are the owners of the property. They are only happy if your love towards them is proved through the above-mentioned practical sacrifice.

Similarly the Lord is not in need of your service. The Lord desires to taste your love and feels happy through such sacrifice. In fact you are earning only due to the sacrifice of parents. Similarly all your wealth belongs to the Lord only. But the dualism is maintained because the taste of love exists only in the ignorance that is dualism. You have earned some money. The flesh of your body that is working is from your mother. The talent by which you are earning is from the wealth of your father. If you realize this and serve the parents, there is no real taste of love. Similarly the parents also realize that truth, there is no taste of love to them also. They can enjoy the love of their children only when they think that the children are sacrificing their hard-earned money in the parent’s service.

Similarly, if the parents think that the earnings of the children are only due to their help, they cannot enjoy the real love. Therefore, the real love is enjoyed only in the ignorance (Avidya). But if the children became ungrateful, then the parents have to educate them with the truth (Vidya). The Lord says in Gita that both Vidya and Avidya are created by Him only which are meaningful in their own contexts (Mattah Smrutir…..). Thus the Lord preaches the Atma Yoga in the beginning which is the attainment of peace and happiness by self-realization and then only proceeded with Paramatma Yoga which is the field of service and sacrifice to the Lord after settlement. If Gita stops with the second chapter, the story ends with Atma Yoga only which is the settlement of life of the children. If the story stops there, it would be Gita preached to the ungrateful ghosts and demons. Therefore, the other sixteen chapters of Gita concentrated on Paramatma-Yoga which is the sacrifice and service to the God when He comes to this world of human beings in human form.

But if you see the stories of human incarnation which is the same as that of the parents visiting the houses of their well settled children, the behaviour of the children proves worse than the nature of even the wild animals. Jesus was crucified! Krishna was shot dead! Sankara was killed by black magic!


At the Lotus Feet of His Holiness Sri Dattaswami

Anil Antony

www.universal-spirituality.org
Universal Spirituality for World Peace
antonyanil@universal-spirituality.org
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 02:34 AM
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1. I do not like them, Spam I Am n/t
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 10:48 PM
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16. I Do Like Green Eggs, But Spam?
well to be honest, I do like to EAT spam

but this spamming of the R/T forum, isn't that against the rules???

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LeighAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 02:54 AM
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2. Spam your religious experience here
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 04:43 PM
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3. A poem for the prayer-ridden and the dadaist dancers:
A cow kicked Nelly in the belly in the barn
Didn't do her any good; didn't do her any harm

--unknown author of American (?) lineage, from a time before television
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 01:45 AM
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4. Sankara killed by black magic? Don't be so sure. I have it from
reliable sources that it was smack.

Ya gotta watch that stuff. Ya screw up on the dose and kablowee!
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 10:16 PM
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5. Wood hyacinth (Hyacinthoides hispanica).
I love wood hyacinths.

Always did.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 01:18 AM
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6. I am most happy when: (pick one)
1 my imaginary friend sings songs to me;

2 a Gary Puckett & the Union Gap song is featured on Weekend Oldies; or

3 inner mysteries are resolved after a 13-hour acid binge.

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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 01:33 AM
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7. .
:popcorn:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 01:35 AM
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8. beam me up scottie! Howdy! Good to see you in this nearly empty
theater of dattaswam's posts.

For reasons unknown to me, the OP hasn't shown up after posting initially.

And you know how I love a mystery.

How ya doin'?
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 02:12 AM
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9. eh, fair to middlin.
Edited on Tue Sep-05-06 02:22 AM by beam me up scottie
How about you?


I was just off to take a short nap before work and thought I'd let you know you had a charmed audience.

Peace, old friend.
:)
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 02:23 AM
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10. And peace to you also. Thank you for the greeting and welcome.
Here in the dead of the night, too.

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Random_Australian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 03:17 AM
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11. Man the drugs are not so good now. Back in Biblical times,
if you burned enough bush you could part the red sea.

:)
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 03:32 AM
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12. It is true that new and better drugs are called for.
In fact, send some over to my place promptly.

We're the fourth house on the left, just past the Colonel Sanders fried chicken place.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 03:43 AM
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13. You know what? I wonder if all that pseudo-spiritual jibber-jabber can
Edited on Wed Sep-06-06 03:44 AM by Old Crusoe
be circumvented, and Happiness be found simply by browsing through the SMILIES LOOKUP TABLE.

What better place to search for Happiness?
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 09:53 PM
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15. Tales from the Book of Pixella, CH 4:3 wherein we read of the quest
of Schmengy and his search for the expression of eternal happiness that leadeth to naughtiness.

Let us read;

Verse 3: And lo it came to pass that Schmengy ventured into the land of Pixel, land of the mighty Kom-Pass, that which maketh the rounds and the not squares.
4: There he met Mare-i-guld and her sister Car-Ah-Mel who together made a hue pleasant to the eye. "I seek that which is the expression of most of the things which are not too terribly bad" sayeth Schmengy to wards Mare-I-Guld.
5: "You smell funny" :puke: was her reply. "I am Schmengy, the Muddled :hippie: and my aroma is an unshakable result of my excessive travels. I do a lot of this ":woohoo: "Well, That seems rather a bit of pointless, knees bent, running around, back and forth behaviour. But before me and Car-ah-mel are going to talk to you, you are going to have to go and have a bit of a wash. If you don't, we are going to have to bath you this way.:spray: Head down the hill to the stream and you will find ......a stream. And soap. And a cloth. And a happy, smiley face we drew on the rock the last time we were down there.":D
5: Is this that land of eternal happiness? Is this that land that is filled with the things not square?
6: "Look, buster - if you don't get your smelly, traveling ass down that hill, my friend here is going to:kick: your smarmy butt all the way back to the land of Dell and Its Gateway."



Ok...this is just getting silly.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 10:17 AM
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17. But fun aplenty. Thank you. I'm just now getting back to the computer
station but this thread is just a barrel of laughs.

I love your creative zing in that post.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 07:27 AM
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14. I love these posts
It's like taking a course or something. When's the quiz?
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