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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 01:08 AM Original message |
Quiverfulls: In a new movement, Christians 'open their wombs to God.' |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 01:12 AM Response to Original message |
1. “The Bible says that God is the only opener and closer of the womb.” |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 01:18 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. With that number of tax exemptions, he pays no taxes |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 01:22 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. You mean they're the new welfare kings and queens? |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 01:21 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I can't actually find such a verse in MY Bible. |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 02:00 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. I *have* a problem... |
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YellingTuna (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 03:08 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. I dont know |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 05:08 PM Response to Reply #11 |
38. The reality is that pocketbook economics is driving birthrates down. These people are anomalies. |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 05:18 PM Response to Reply #38 |
44. The irony is they think they're being godly human beings |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 06:15 PM Response to Reply #44 |
93. Well, now, Burt |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 10:35 PM Response to Reply #93 |
101. I have nothing against rutting. |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 08:55 AM Response to Reply #101 |
108. Maybe they sing hymns while they rut? |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 11:59 AM Response to Reply #108 |
110. Kinky. (n/t) |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 01:03 PM Response to Reply #108 |
111. I do and I'm not even religious. |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 06:23 PM Response to Reply #38 |
54. I agree. |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 05:38 PM Response to Reply #11 |
52. We may get to that point in the future |
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Ishoutandscream2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 10:38 AM Response to Reply #6 |
26. Totally agree. |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 10:54 PM Response to Reply #6 |
83. I swear to God |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 10:59 PM Response to Reply #6 |
84. You know how China has done this, don't you? |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 05:42 PM Response to Reply #84 |
92. I think |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 10:30 PM Response to Reply #92 |
116. Thank you n/t |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 06:17 PM Response to Reply #84 |
94. Is that really true? |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 12:50 AM Response to Reply #94 |
104. linky |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 01:42 AM Response to Reply #84 |
105. No, that's not how they "did it" |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 10:29 PM Response to Reply #105 |
115. The one child rule exacerbates the problem |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 02:58 AM Response to Reply #115 |
118. Still doesn't bolster your claim |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 07:15 AM Response to Reply #3 |
14. The closest to a LITERAL verse |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 09:06 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. It's a great country if you don't have to pay taxes |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 09:12 PM Response to Reply #3 |
78. It is a loose translation of Psalm 127 |
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POAS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 04:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
32. Seems God has been getting a little help from Daddy. |
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Sapphocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 04:51 PM Response to Reply #1 |
34. That must hurt! n/t |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 08:08 AM Response to Reply #1 |
87. Strangely enough... |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 01:40 AM Response to Original message |
5. oh no the howard institute! |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 06:19 PM Response to Reply #5 |
95. Are the Howard Institute folks white? |
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lvx35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 02:20 AM Response to Original message |
7. Damn. |
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HuffleClaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 02:27 AM Response to Original message |
8. brrrrrrrrrrrr |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 02:37 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. same as it ever was... |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 07:20 AM Response to Reply #8 |
15. That's what "pro-life" is all about. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 02:45 AM Response to Original message |
10. From their eyes, it looks like no one gets much sleep in the Bortel home |
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Crim_n al (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 04:10 AM Response to Original message |
12. What a conceited and irresponsible couple. |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 06:20 PM Response to Reply #12 |
96. I respect their right to have as many kids as they want |
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cap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 04:24 AM Response to Original message |
13. hopefully... they wont be applying for welfare, foodstamps |
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Bassic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 07:22 AM Response to Original message |
16. That's a lot of kids, |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
18. Statistically, at least one of those kids is gay. |
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Phillycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 04:46 PM Response to Reply #18 |
31. I know, isn't that wonderful? |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 05:27 PM Response to Reply #31 |
50. Genetic diversity IS wonderful, |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
19. I love the DU religionists who are all "no, no... we don't take the bible literally"... |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 10:21 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Yes, because all religious people are the same |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 10:29 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. It's true. Pointing out differences between religionists is hairsplitting... |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 10:33 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Ah, of course. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 10:46 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. You're right - that WOULD be stupid. Thankfully, I'm not doing that... |
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nemo137 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 04:43 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Do you realize how ridiculous that is? |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 08:28 PM Response to Reply #30 |
70. What's ridiculous is claiming that being anti-religion is like being racist. |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 11:23 AM Response to Reply #70 |
90. But I thought... |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 06:28 PM Response to Reply #27 |
98. So, we're all the same |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 06:53 PM Response to Reply #23 |
56. whatever, they're both humans |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 05:17 PM Response to Reply #19 |
43. I love irony. |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 07:01 PM Response to Reply #19 |
60. I love how every day |
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Left Is Write (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 07:45 PM Response to Reply #19 |
67. Why is that funny? I don't take a literal view of the Bible. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 08:30 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. It's not the difference (relational notion) that's funny. It's the belief in magic (non-relational). |
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Left Is Write (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 08:53 PM Response to Reply #71 |
75. Then why did you bring up the non-literal view of the Bible? |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 11:28 PM Response to Reply #75 |
85. Sigh. Slow religionists - what a surprise. Because that's how they try... |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 06:22 PM Response to Reply #19 |
97. What the hell are you talking about? |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 11:08 PM Response to Reply #19 |
103. There are a few problems... |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
20. They're right... they're not crazy. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
21. So dumb. They cannot create a Repuke majority this way |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 10:30 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. my thoughts exactly |
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noonwitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
28. Odds are, not all those kids are going to be fundies when they grow up |
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POAS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 04:49 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Odds are that at least one will be gay. |
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RexDart (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
29. Normally, I'm live and let live, but... |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 05:04 PM Response to Reply #29 |
37. In another ten years he should run for Senate again. By then his brood may have its own district. |
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TheCentepedeShoes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 07:58 PM Response to Reply #29 |
69. A little reference |
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MUSTANG_2004 (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 04:59 PM Response to Original message |
35. Not my cup of tea |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 05:03 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Large families made sense in a time before antibiotics |
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Retrograde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 05:13 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. and before birth control there wasn't much choice |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 07:00 PM Response to Reply #36 |
59. Those mores do exist |
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dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
39. This is America and they are free to practice their own |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 05:11 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. That's two different questions. |
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dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 05:16 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. I don't think I said that you could not |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 05:18 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. I guess I don't understand the relevance of saying they're free to do it. (n/t) |
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dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 05:20 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. The relevance is that is what makes this country |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 05:21 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. All I will question is how "free" she was to become a baby machine |
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dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 05:25 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. You are free to question, I just said I would not do so |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 06:40 PM Response to Reply #48 |
99. Your post made me think |
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deadparrot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
47. No wonder the 20-year-old got hitched and moved away. |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 05:28 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. The philosophy seems to be not to think, just fuck and pray. |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 02:43 PM Response to Reply #51 |
113. Hmmm |
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StraightDope (716 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
53. Nice try, fundies... |
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stepnw1f (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 06:56 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. Yup..... |
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madmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
55. That doesn't bother me at all. |
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slestak (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
58. For pete's sake QUIT FUCKING!! n/t |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
61. Unforgivable-bringing children into a world doomed by global warming. |
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MUSTANG_2004 (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 07:32 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Do you care about your child? |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 07:37 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. My Child is nearly twenty; she was born long before I knew about global warming. |
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MUSTANG_2004 (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 07:40 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Why do the numbers matter? |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 08:47 PM Response to Reply #65 |
73. The logic is this: |
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TRYPHO (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 05:18 PM Response to Reply #64 |
91. hold on a second.. |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 06:45 PM Response to Reply #64 |
100. When we stop having children |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
63. The Nation also has a story on them this week. |
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Jim__ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 10:35 AM Response to Reply #63 |
88. Here's a link to The Nation story ... |
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Left Is Write (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
66. I do have a welcoming heart. But I also know my own limitations. |
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WindRavenX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
68. Jesus Freaks terrify me |
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StraightDope (716 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 08:45 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. Well, it helps to think of them... |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 08:51 PM Response to Reply #68 |
74. Boo |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 09:02 PM Response to Original message |
76. I've got nothing against big families as long as the parents are |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 09:07 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. Excelllent points |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
79. UMMM excuse me.. I thought Dems were the Pro-choice party? |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 09:55 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. Problem is the article indicates that they can't afford them. |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 10:30 PM Response to Reply #79 |
82. Being pro-choice doesn't mean you're disallowed from being critical of others' choices. |
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minerva50 (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 09:55 PM Response to Original message |
81. I feel sorry for the kids. |
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bedazzled (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 12:10 AM Response to Reply #81 |
86. my brother's got 4 kids and they're all starved for attention |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
89. This really isn't new |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 10:58 PM Response to Original message |
102. Oh great... |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 04:52 AM Response to Original message |
106. So they just have sex whenever and let nature....er, God...take its course? |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 07:03 AM Response to Original message |
107. OK, if an atheist comes in here |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 11:58 AM Response to Reply #107 |
109. Perfection isn't required |
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Finder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 01:39 PM Response to Reply #109 |
112. It is a sin to spill the seed.lol n/t |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 11:57 PM Response to Reply #107 |
117. I don't believe that.. |
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 06:58 PM Response to Original message |
114. Very dangerous |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
119. Holy fuck -- that's not reproduction, it's littering |
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