More evidence as to why David Wright is so fuckin good...

[inthebrain]

Numbers from yeasterdays game;

AB 2 H R 1 2 BB 3 SB 1

This is why Wright, even when his power numbers are down, is one of the best in the game. He has more than one dimension to his game.

He's on pace this season to finish with about 90-100 Walks, 190-200 hits and 35-40 Stolen Bases.

For his career he's already got 928 hits and will get his 1000th by the end of the year. Wright is lookin to be one of those guys that's going to finish his career with about 2500-3000 hits. Thats hall of fame worthy and the only thing that seals the deal for this guy is an MVP or World Series ring.

[Bluzmann57]

1. And yet, Aramis Ramirez is still better

The Cubs offense fell apart when he was hurt and now that he's back, they are starting to hit. Not only that, he's a Gold Glove caliber third baseman, although the NY media will never vote for him.

[inthebrain]

3. The NY Media does not have control over everything

If that was the case Beltran probably would have been the MVP in 2006.

Santana probably would have won the CY Young last season.

Ramirez is an excellent player but what seperates Wright from him is the fact that Wright is dangerous in all aspects of the game. Wright in five seasons already has more than half of Ramirez's 1428 career hits compiled over 11 years.

In 11 years Ramirez has 16 tripiles to Wrights 13 in five.


Stolen Bases Wright is all over Ramirez with 113-13 for their careers thus far.

Career walks Wright has 390 over five seasons to Ramirez's 402 in eleven seasons.


Wright is really good in every aspect of the game. He is is a complete player. It ain't the New York media hype he really is that good.

[Upton]

2. More evidence that Wright has gone off his special

"diet":eyes:


2005: HR-27 RBI-102 SO-113

2006: HR-26 RBI-116 S0-113

2007: HR-30 RBI-107 SO-115

2008: HR-33 RBI-124 SO-118

2009: HR-5 RBI-44 SO-89

Wright's power numbers are not just down, his strikeouts are up significantly. In fact, at this pace, he is projected to finish 2009 with 9 HR, 85 RBI and an incredible 161 SO... Compare that with the numbers of the previous 4 years....and you want to talk about how little David walks and steals bases?

What happened to the 30 HR 100 RBI David Wright?

[inthebrain]

4. Wright's power numbers are down cause he plays at citi feild

but your a ding bat so i wouldn't expect you to know that. Even though it's been repeated to you a million times.

Then again, if he was on the Juice, you are in no position to throw stones as you defend Barroid.

You're just pissed cause Pansey Panda didn't get in the ASG and all those legions of 83 percenters couldn't suff the ballot box to get him in.

[Upton]

5. That doesn't explain his strikeouts does it?

And his power numbers aren't just down a little bit, they're down so much that the switch to Citi Field is not enough of an excuse anymore.

First Wright is the villain of the All Star game, now he's been exposed as a juicer....quite a year he's having.

[inthebrain]

6. His strike outs are up

cause when it's two outs in the 6th, men on 1st and 2nd, Tatis due up next, Wright is often ordered to swing away. Pitchers rarely pitch him in the zone knowing they can get to the guys hitting in the 6th, 7th and 8th spots. Tatis and Castillo least the team in GIDP. They are the double play kings of the lineup.

This is precisely why Wrights OBP is up this year his slugging percentage is down and strike out are up.

Usually when Wright gets a hit it's on a mistake pitch or something out of the zone.

If you've seen the Mets lineup these past few months and are gonna tell me your gonna pitch this guy in the zone with men on base, you're an even bigger idiot than I thought. Most pitchers would rather throw this guy garbage and take their chances with Reed, Tatis, Santos, Castillo or even Sheffeild.

The Mets lineup right now is one of the worst in the league.

[inthebrain]

7. Hurry up Upton and come up with something "smart"

Put your lack of baseball knowledge up for display for all to see.

[inthebrain]

8. More crickets........

[madinmaryland]

9. Maybe he put you on ignore??

:shrug:

[inthebrain]

12. Apparently not, He had to conjure up a response that was twice as stupid

as his original hypothesis.

Not mention move the goal posts and abandon that hypothesis.

[Upton]

10. Oh, I see..

so little David has been ordered to swing and miss at pitches out of the zone...when are you going to stop using this "bad lineup" excuse?

The Giants aren't exactly the '27 Yankees, yet Pablo still hits and leads Wright in every meaningful run producing category.

I've told you in the past, a real star would step up and pick up the slack when other RBI men on his team are injured. Not so with Wright, instead we're finally seeing what he's made of (no heart), or not taking (no roids).

[inthebrain]

11. Selective dismissivness does not give credence to your arguement

Nor does cherry picking Sandoval's stats.

You lose, BIG TIME.

Difference between Wright and Sandoval. Wright can go on a cold streak at the plate AND STILL BE EFFECTIVE drawing walks and swiping bases.

Sandoval goes on a cold streak and he is completely useless as his talent at the plate is one dimensional.

And run producing categories, RBI's and Slugging PCT, are PREDICATED ON THE ABILLITY OF THOSE IN FRONT OF YOU TO GET ON BASE!!!!

You lose.

And lose big time.

[Upton]

14. "cherry picking Sandoval's stats"?

I don't think so. Lets do a fair assessment:

BA

Wright: .324
Pablo: .331

HR

Wright: 5
Pablo: 15

RBI

Wright: 44
Pablo: 56

OBP

Wright: .413
Pablo: .381

Slugging %

Wright: .569
Pablo: .461

Now in every stat but one, Pablo leads....your precious walks are included in the OBP and even in that Wright's lead is small. Again, Wright is supposedly a run producer...doesn't look like he's doing his job, least not nearly as well as the previous 4 seasons. Speculation as to why, or in your case excuses, abound as to why.

[inthebrain]

16. OBP trumps batting average

Again, showing one stat where Wright leads doesn't justify you leaving out the others. Try Walks and Stolen bases. Wright has more than two times the amount of walks as Sandoval.



Wright's lead in both those categories, walks and OBP are significant.

In runs scored and stolen bases Wright's lead is significant as well. Especially when you look at the power numbers put up by Sandoval and Wirght's fall off in that category.

Wright SB 21
Sandoval SB 4

Wright R 58
Sandoval R 41

You get much better production out of Wright than Sandoval even despite Wrights drop off in power numbers. Sandoval is a decent hitter but the problem is that when he gets cold with the bat you don't get much else out of him. He's useless at the plate when you compare him to what Wright gives you.

Sandoval's stats actually tell you that pitchers pitch to him. He's getting pitches to hit.

Wright's stats, with a high OBP, high walks and increased strike outs, tells you that pitchers are pitching him out of the zone. What makes the guy such a good player is that even with that you still get good production from him. Those guys are rare.

[inthebrain]

13. This repsonse is also proof as to why you are not a major league manager

and know nothing about how the game is played.

[Upton]

15. Well you'd be good as a ML manager

at least a losing one.. because your excuses, some of them just downright absurd, never end.

[inthebrain]

17. As a manage, looking at the Mets line up

You'd be stupid enough to pitch Wright with a man on first and second w/ 2 outs.

That's really what your argument boils down to.

You're not exactly what one would call a "brilliant baseball mind".

[Upton]

18. Hmm..was watching the pre game

before the Mets/Braves and just heard Steve Phillips say that Wright, since June 22, is hitting .250 with a pathetic 1 HR and 5 RBI.

BTW..

[Forkboy]

19. You can bet your ass I just bookmarked THAT one.

:rofl:

[inthebrain]

20. Again, dismissivness

Wright is hitting .250 since June 22 because......

Oh wait....

Let's see what happened on June 22....

C. Beltrán CF Jun 22, 2009 15-day Disabled List Bone bruise, right knee

So a lineup that was already hurting all season got worse.

And Wrights OBP has maintained CAUSE HE"S NOT GETTING PITCHES TO HIT!!!

YOu really are not that bright when it comes to the game.

[Upton]

21. He had a pitch to hit in the 1st

with a runner in scoring position....flies out to right. Looks like Wright, for some reason, no longer has the power he used to possess.

[inthebrain]

22. But he flied out to right cause he doesn't have any power

I missed the AB but reading on another board about the game. Everyone saying that is was ANOTHER PICH OUT OF THE ZONE.

[inthebrain]

23. Wright with another walk

Goes 1st to third on a run scoring single by Frenchy (off the plate again).

Wright again proves he can be effective and get on base.

[Upton]

25. I looked it up

Wright is 24th in MLB in walks, behind such players as Pujols, Bay, Fielder, Werth, etc....all of whom seem to find time, unlike Wright, to hit a few HR and drive in a few runs while they're at it.

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[madinmaryland]

31. I see that you have hijacked upton's account, cboy.

LOSER!

[madinmaryland]

24. Hey, cupton. Who did the Skankees play in the '27 series? It was a team

from PITTSBURGH! Not a team from Frisco. Not sure how the NEW YORK GIANTS did that year, but I know as any REAL Fan does, that the NEW YORK (Baseball) Giants won FIVE world series during their existence.

:shrug:

[cboy4]

27. Let's see, he's 0-2 so far tonight with the Braves thumping the Chokers

7-1 in the 6th.

[inthebrain]

28. He has a walk

Which he also went from 1st to third on a single.

Walks are just as good as hits.

But look who just popped out of the woods.

Way to lose two of three to those so called "lowly Pirates".

Loser.

[cboy4]

29. I know, I already said it was embarrassing.

But it's over and done.

[Upton]

30. Say there's a runner on second with 2 outs

no way is a walk as good as a hit then..Wright is supposed to drive in runs, he's not doing his job.

And while we're on the subject of walks, Mr. OBP swung at the 1st pitch leading off the 9th with his team down by 6 runs...what's that about?

[inthebrain]

32. Gee, maybe your catchin on

And knowing that Wright can drive in runs, the Mets don't have anything behind him that can, are you gonna pitch to him?

Nope.

You take your chances with Tatis, Reed or Sheffeild. That's what every manager does and Bobby Cox is one that famouse for doing that with Wright. Last season, when Wright was batting fifth, he did exactly that. The nats and the Pirates did the same thing.

This year, knowing that there is no one else in the lineup they are doing it even more. That's why Wright's SOs are up cause you're gonna have this guy swing in that situation at anything near the zone. For the most part they are pitching Wright away just a little off the plate.

YOu just proved waht I was saying in regards to Wright's high strike outs.