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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 10:27 AM
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***The official "Dook-o-philia" debunking thread***
It is easier to play basketball and go to Duke than it is at...............NC State
http://www.ncsu.edu/BulletinOnline/11_02/facsenate1112.htm

All student-athletes will find it more difficult to maintain eligibility through their college years under the other new change handed down by the NCAA. Under the new regulation, student-athletes must complete 40 percent of their degree requirements by the end of their second year in school or lose athletic eligibility. The percentage would then increase to 60 percent by the end of the third year and 80 percent by the end of the fourth year.

While there seems to be general agreement that the rule is well-intentioned in trying to increase graduation rates, several see potential pitfalls. In his earlier Faculty Senate visit, Fowler pointed out that while NC State requires 130 hours to graduate, Duke only requires 96, so meeting the 40 percent bar will be much harder at NC State.

Tsk tsk tsk not so squeaky clean after all
The Blue Devils Aren't Angels
http://slate.msn.com/id/101920/

There's only one problem with all this Dukophilia. It's absolute bunk. Just consider some recent happenings at Duke:

In 1995, Duke center Greg Newton was suspended from the school for two semesters after a student court found him guilty of cheating on a computer science exam. Newton returned to Duke and resumed playing for the basketball team. Two years later, Duke guard Ricky Price was suspended from school for plagiarism. He too returned to Duke and resumed his basketball career.

In 1999, Duke point guard William Avery led the Blue Devils to the NCAA championship game. Unfortunately, while Avery was lighting it up on the basketball court, he wasn't going to many classes—and as soon as the season was over, Avery, a sophomore, dropped out of school and made himself eligible for the NBA draft.

Last year it was discovered that another player from that 1999 team, Corey Magette (who also left the school early to go to the NBA), shouldn't have been playing at all, because he was ineligible. While in high school, Magette had received $2,000 from a summer-league coach. Pending a decision by the NCAA, Duke may have to forfeit all its victories from that year.


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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 10:28 AM
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1. I thought this was gonna be a thread about Dookus
:)
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 10:35 AM
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2. Me too - I love Dookus - I HATE Duke
It's all about the Huskies baby!
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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 12:53 PM
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6. Down with Duke!
I'm glad my Huskies knocked the bastards out twice in the tourny: once last year in the Final Four (an amazing come-from-behind victory) and in '99 for the championship. Eff Duke.
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ThorsHammer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 01:35 PM
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8. '99 was beautiful
Wasn't Duke something like 32-1 before that game? IIRC, they had Avery, Langdon, Battier, Maggette, and Brand, 4 of whom were fairly high NBA picks. UConn had Hamilton, and a bunch of solid role players (El-Amin, Voskhul, etc). I love watching teams beat collections of star players, like the Pistons over the Lakers.
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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 01:50 PM
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9. Everyone called that year's tourny the Duke Invitational...
They steamrolled over everybody until they met UCONN. What a game. Best championship ever. Ricky Moore played one hell of a game--he stopped Maggette (I think) on their last position with one of the finest defensive plays I've ever seen. I knew it was over when El-Amin hit that looping shot over Brand. That was a thing of beauty.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 02:33 PM
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10. Yeah, the sportswriters had their stories written before the game even
started...they were just waiting to put in the score that they just knew Duke would beat UCONN by....THEN...for the next day few days they all went on about how anyone who had overlooked UCONN shoudn't have!

I think Duke had more than one loss--probably 2, maybe 3, but no more than that.
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 11:59 AM
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3. Go STATE!!
:bounce:
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ThorsHammer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 12:13 PM
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4. I'll make it easy on everyone
The link in my signature line is an invaluable resource for ABD'ers. Ironically, Redick and Williams are starting to grow on me, although I still don't like Coach K nor Dookie V and his media buddies.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 12:37 PM
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5. EXCELLENT
Thanks bookmarked for future reading.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 02:41 PM
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11. I love it! Whenever I hear "Coach K" I only think of last year's semi when
he whined to the refs at the end, "You cheated us!"

I guess when the refs DON'T call fouls that HAVEN'T happened, that's cheating in his book. What a putz.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 01:07 PM
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7. Huh? Coach (R) misleading the public? I'm shocked. Shocked!
Can't stand 'em. Never have. I grew up in Connecticut, you see, where for too long they kept exterminating our Huskies like a (jack)boot stamping on an anthill.

Then there was the time Puke was in the Final Four right when St. Raygun was bombing Libya. Coach (R)'s thoughts? "I wish I were over there with 'em!" (That was the year Louisville beat 'em in the finals behind Pervis Ellison. In the words of the immortal Nelson Muntz, "Ha-ha!")
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 02:48 PM
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12. i used to really hate duke until
i lived with a duke graduate for 6 months...great kid

now i just don't like em

and reddick used to annoy the piss out of me until i heard his answer when someone asked him who his two favorite poets were:

"nas and tupac"
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ThorsHammer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 12:18 PM
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13. I like some of them
I like Deng, Hurley, Grant Hill. Redick used to seem annoying, but he's growing on me, as is Williams. I can't stand guys like Laettner, and hate Dookies arrogance in general. Coach K, Dookie V, and the rest of the media really fuel a lot of my dislike (and likely many other people as well) for them.
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