It is a little early to label Ortiz a cheater.

[VMI Dem]

The test done in 2003 encompassed a wide array of substances, including some that were not on the banned list. I would like to see what drug he tested positive for before judging him.

[Yavin4]

1. So, We Give A Pass To Players That We Like

Not Bonds, Clemens, Arod, etc.

Spare me, Red Sox Nation. Spare me your hypocrysy.

[Onceuponalife]

2. OK, here we go with the apologists....

:puke:

[Forkboy]

3. Dude, you openly root for Manny here.

Who the fuck are you to talk about apologists? :rofl:

Listen, just because cboy is gone doesn't mean we need a replacement hypocrite.

[Onceuponalife]

6. No, I don't.

I'm just happy when he helps my team. I think he should be banned for life as I've stated repeatedly. I'm kind of upset that Juan Pierre has to sit down with all his (natural) talent going to waste. The only reason I post those Manny gloat threads is to get a reaction out of the wonderbread twins. I thought you understood that.

[Forkboy]

8. "I'm just happy when he helps my team."

I don't want him to do good, but when he does I'm happy.

Well, as long as you're not rooting for him then.

[joeybee12]

9. Yeah, the most vocal ones are the ones who support manny and A-Hole...

...they just are feeling inferior and want to make this worse than it is.

[MaineDem]

4. He said after the game today that he doesn't know what he tested postive for

He's trying to find out.

[inthebrain]

5. That just says he took more than ONE substance....

I know that game.

A little different circumstances but I've done a lot of work drug addicts. They usually say that when you tell them why you need to sit them down and talk to them, "Well, what did I test positive for? WHICH DRUG?"

[DaveinMD]

7. yeah

so he'll admit to that and nothing else at that point. He probably took a bunch of different stuff.