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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 06:51 PM
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Is Lane Kiffen the Sarah Palin of NCAA Football coaching!!
Quitter: check.
Self-inflated view of one's self-importance: check

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Condem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 07:09 PM
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1. Good analogy.
And as dumb as a box of fucking rocks.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 09:53 AM
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10. Yeah, but they left out dishonest and a cheater...n/t
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 07:15 PM
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2. Not everyone looks at it that way...
One recruiting expert said Kiffin's return to USC should be regarded as a coup for a program that appeared in disarray with the national signing day for high school seniors only three weeks away.

Allen Wallace, national recruiting coordinator for Scout.com, described Kiffin as "one of the best evaluators of talent I've ever come across. . . . He likes to work very hard and will bring a ready-made staff with big-time credentials.

"It's just a lucky stroke, a last parting gift from Pete Carroll. I can't imagine a better choice for USC regardless of what people would consider his downside. USC lucked out."



http://www.latimes.com/sports/college/usc/la-sp-usc-coach13-2010jan13,0,5476328.story?page=2

Kiffin worked under Pete Carroll for 6 years. Who cares what happened with the Raiders and UT....This guy knows USC.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 07:24 PM
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3. Just because he worked under Pete Carroll does not make him a good coach.
So far, he has been a bust, and he is walking into a program that is in disarray with multiple investigations going on.

I think Jack Del Rio would have been a better choice, though whoever moves in is fucked.

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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 07:31 PM
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4. How about this?
I'll take the expert's word over the Big Ten biased rants of yourself and Condem...

USC needed someone quickly who is familiar with the program...with Kiffin that's exactly what they got..

"I think it's really good they got someone who knows Trojans football and the traditions and knows how we rock," quarterback Matt Barkley said.

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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 07:51 PM
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5. So you are saying the USC will thrive with a man who has managed to put "I" into team.
Good luck.

Kiffin makes Nick Saban look like a long termer.

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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 08:05 PM
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6. Maybe...but Saban is coach of the National Champions
USC will take that. Norm Chow too.

I guess all that effort the detective put in to hating Saban hasn't worked out..

I wonder if something similar will happen with you and Kiffin?
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 08:29 PM
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7. Kiffin is no Saban. Saban has ethics and is not a liar...
Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/michael_rosenberg/01/13/usc/index.html

It's not just that Kiffin left Tennessee after one year. In a vacuum, that is understandable. Circumstances change, your dream job comes up -- nobody can control timing.

But it is hard to imagine a university putting itself on the line for a coach more than Tennessee did for Kiffin. Remember: Kiffin was coming off a disastrous stint with the Raiders when the Vols hired him. (By definition, all stints with the Raiders are disastrous.) Raiders owner Al Davis had called him a "flat-out liar."

Tennessee pulled Kiffin off the discard pile, paid him more than $2 million a year and gave him more than $3 million to pay his assistants -- the biggest salary pool for any school in the country. (One of those assistants, Lane's father Monte, got $1.2 million -- and a $300,000 retention bonus if he was still on staff Dec. 31. Now, two weeks later, Monte is heading to USC -- and presumably taking that retention bonus with him.)

Tennessee stood by Kiffin when he violated rules and falsely accused others of doing so. The school deified him when he boasted about hurting his SEC rivals by stealing their coaches.

Tennessee let Kiffin do pretty much anything he wanted to whomever he wanted. As he told SI's John Ed Bradley last winter: "You can't count the number of people we've run off because they couldn't keep up, and I'm including secretaries. They had to go because they weren't going to make it, and they knew it."

Maybe I'm not tough enough for Kiffin's world, but I have a problem with a coach who makes millions of dollars bragging that he ran off a secretary.

So what happens to the secretaries now, Lane? What happens to the support staff? What happens to the players who came to Knoxville with the promise that you were going to win big and watch out for them?

Kiffin seems to think that's Tennessee's problem. And sadly, he is right. Kiffin gets to run off to USC, where all they care about is winning. Lane Kiffin and USC deserve each other. This marriage is both absurd and perfect, all at once.

..snip

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Condem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 09:23 PM
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8. Big Ten biased rants, Upton?!?!
Holy Chow. We know what we speak of. Go back 6 months. I came out saying it was Carroll's last year. I said they would offer Del Rio the position. They did. He was smart enough to turn it down. So they got desperate. Who's your so-called expert? Some LA Times hack. Big fuckin' deal. You're still pissed that the Big Ten is fucking back, Baby!!! I've told you fifty times it's cyclical. Now, I'm right again. How's the PAC-10 hoops working for you, this year? LOL!!!
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 10:28 AM
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11. Desperate?
Kiffin was like the third guy they talked to...By way of comparison, back in 2000, Pete Carrol was the fourth candidate to be offered the USC opening. Back then, I bet you and the other Pac-10 haters laughed at Carroll's hiring and predicted dire consequences...

Kiffin is part of the USC family, a dynamic recruiter, and his coaching job last year at UT wasn't too bad either. This could be a perfect fit.

I've got you figured out on this thing Condem. You originally felt a sense of relief at Carroll's departure. Now, with Kiffin's hiring, you're beginning to fear that the USC tradition of kicking Big Ten ass will continue without a hitch. I don't blame you for being upset.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 09:40 AM
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9. I'll highlight the important part of your post "ONE" recuriting expert...
...I always thought Kiffin was just stupid and he really didn't mean all those violations...apparently he knew WTF he was doing.
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