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Sun Jan-24-10 10:24 PM
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Who's for the Superbowl to be played |
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in one of the team's stadiums. I long for the day that there is a true home team and the real fans can go to the game and not celebrities.
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Sun Jan-24-10 10:26 PM
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1. As a Packer fan, I'd love it |
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Couldn't you see the Super Bowl at Lambeau?
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Sun Jan-24-10 10:36 PM
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Sun Jan-24-10 10:38 PM
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3. I'd Sure As Hell Love It! |
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I am sick and tired of cold weather stadiums being discriminated against. Sickening.
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Sun Jan-24-10 11:08 PM
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8. I'd love to see a cold weather Super Bowl. |
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Mon Jan-25-10 03:44 PM
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31. Seeing a Super Bowl at Soilder's Field would be epic |
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Then again seeing the Bears make it to a Super Bowl again would be epic.
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Sun Jan-24-10 10:49 PM
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4. Yeah, the crowd is the worst part of the Super Bowl |
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It's kind of the ultimate celebration of American Corporatism. I also wonder whether the chance for home field through the *very* end of the playoffs would have made the last 2 games more meaningful to the Colts and Saints.
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Sun Jan-24-10 10:52 PM
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5. Nah--I like the neutral field aspect |
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However I wish they would showcase Super Bowls in cold weather outdoor stadiums such as Denver, East Rutherford, etc.
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Sun Jan-24-10 10:55 PM
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6. It's the only sport that the championship game |
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Sun Jan-24-10 10:58 PM
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Mon Jan-25-10 06:23 AM
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and it is in that wonderful mindset that puts the final game of NCAA basketball in a football stadium with 70,000 fans. nothing like intimacy.
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Mon Jan-25-10 12:11 PM
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14. Nice post Jerry Jones! |
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Mon Jan-25-10 02:18 PM
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17. Should be an incredible FINAL FOUR this year!! |
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Mon Jan-25-10 02:47 PM
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22. The last right sized arena |
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was the one in NJ. It was even mentioned at the time that we were losing something when it was moved out to the big arenas. Basketball is best in a 20,000 person arena. You actually have to see the game to really feel it and watching it on a screen doesn't cut it.
I have been to multiple pro playoff games including one in Buffalo with Havlicek and MaCadoo with Buffalo winning at he buzzer by a putback by Garfield Heard.
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Mon Jan-25-10 02:55 PM
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25. I would have loved to see Havlicek live. Though he never played with Buffalo. |
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I saw him on later in his career and he was still impressive.
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Mon Jan-25-10 03:40 PM
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30. It was a celtic- Buffalo Braves playoff game |
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jack ramsey coached buffalo Buffalo starting 5
randy smith Ernie DiGregorio jack marin- what a shooter garfield heard bob Macadoo
Boston starting 5 dave Cowens JoJo White Don Cheney Paul Silas John havlicek
Macadoo took the last shot- havlicek dropped off to double team and it freed Heard to tap it in at he buzzer acadoo had 41 and was unstoppable
I copied my game after havlicek. Never stopped running I was a slasher and a real pain in the ass to guard. I played until I was 46. really sucked at the end. very good passer(look away passes all the time- real good one on one moves and a sneaky rebounder(couldn't believe my eyes when Rodman came out of bounds to get position That was my move.
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Mon Jan-25-10 02:10 PM
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16. It's also the only one (of the major US pro sports) that only plays one game. |
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In all the other ones, "home field advantage" consists of having 1 extra game out of 7 if the series goes the distance.
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Tue Jan-26-10 09:57 AM
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MLS has a single final game. NASCAR doesn't really even have playoffs.
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Tue Jan-26-10 12:55 PM
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51. As I said, MAJOR us pro sports... |
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Edited on Tue Jan-26-10 01:01 PM by hughee99
MLS is not one (at least, not yet), and as far as NASCAR goes, they have essentially a tournament schedule like golf or tennis. On week X, you go here and compete, the next week, you go somewhere else. There's no regional teams or "home field" for Nascar, tennis (unless you want to count that team tennis that no one pays attention to) or golf.
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Tue Jan-26-10 09:55 AM
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45. How is it "taken from the fans?" |
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What about College Basketball and Football? What about the Little League World Series? Should it be played at Mayor Smith Park in Anytown, USA? That makes no sense?
Also, what about the World Cup or the Olympics.
It's not the only sport where the championship game is played at a neutral site.
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Tue Jan-26-10 02:58 PM
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59. with college basketball and soccer |
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all the games in the tournament are at neutral sites. With that logic all the games of the NFL playoffs should be at neutral sites
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Sun Jan-24-10 11:36 PM
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9. I'm for a neutral field halfway between the two cities. nt |
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Mon Jan-25-10 02:05 PM
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15. What would you do for a Giants-Pats SB? |
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No decent sized field between the 2 cities. A neutral site announced well in advance at least gives people time to plan and make arrangements, basing the site on the winners of the two conference championships only gives people 2 weeks to plan. In fairness, though, since the fans of the teams playing don't know they're going to the SB until two weeks before, the local fans (as opposed to those who will go no matter who's playing) only have two weeks to plan anyway.
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Mon Jan-25-10 02:28 PM
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Don't laugh at these examples but they wouldn't be able to find a neutral field between the two cities if they do happen to go SB. SF-Oak, Ari-Den, Dal-Hou, etc.
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Mon Jan-25-10 02:56 PM
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27. Didn't that happen a couple of years ago?? |
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They could have played in Storrs at UConn or New Haven and the Yale Bowl.
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Mon Jan-25-10 03:23 PM
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28. Yale Bowl or Rentschler Field |
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the latter is the home of UConn's Huskies.
In fact, the Giants played their home games at the Yale Bowl one season, while Yankee Stadium, their home at the time, was being renovated.
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Mon Jan-25-10 04:34 PM
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32. The Yale bowl holds 64K, Rentschler field only 40K. |
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Miami holds 76,000. I'm not sure the smaller capacity will help get more local fans seats, although it will help that having a Jan/Feb game in CT will weed out some of the celebrities, who won't want to sit outside in the cold. More importantly, though, what's a SB without luxury boxes?
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Mon Jan-25-10 02:13 AM
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Who wants to see a game in Buffalo where wind and snow will make it impossible to complete a pass or make a kick? Wait, what am I saying? It would never get played in Buffalo anyway.
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Mon Jan-25-10 06:30 AM
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12. for all you youngin's |
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Buffalo was awful good in the 90's and would have hosted quite a few championship games. What has been memorialized as one of the greatest games ever is the Ice Bowl which I saw on TV. That game is a game to be remembered "for the ages" Also, Adam Viniteri's kick in the tuck game is remembered as the greatest kick ever.
It is amazing that you let the corporatism of football be the way as opposed to supporting the guy who supports the team every day. Isn't the game for the fans?
The games leading up to the superbowl by and large are just better because they are played in front of a home crowd.
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Mon Jan-25-10 06:45 AM
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13. Neutral field and REAL GRASS |
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Mon Jan-25-10 02:19 PM
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18. The 2011 Super Bowl could be a home game for a certain NFL team. |
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Mon Jan-25-10 02:55 PM
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26. I'd bet more on XLVI or XLVII. |
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Indianapolis then New Orleans
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Mon Jan-25-10 02:34 PM
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20. Neutral field, dome. (n/t) |
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Mon Jan-25-10 02:39 PM
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21. I have an idea:Show the Super Bowl on pay-per-view |
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:hide:
Better not give the NFL any ideas.
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Mon Jan-25-10 02:48 PM
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23. NFL network- first shot across the bow |
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Edited on Mon Jan-25-10 02:51 PM by wilt the stilt
if they could they would and you would still have to watch commercials.
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Mon Jan-25-10 02:52 PM
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24. Even though my post was a joke |
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I seriously thought about the idea of the NFL pulling something like this. With blackout rules, showing Thursday night games on NFL Network, and the other ways they limit their product for the fan I wouldn't put it past them.
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Mon Jan-25-10 03:25 PM
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29. It's still much more profitable (for now) for them to sell the rights |
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to a network, as opposed to going the PPV route. If for any reason this changes, though, they'd do PPV in a heartbeat. It's all about the Dollar$.
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Mon Jan-25-10 04:56 PM
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A cold-weather Super Bowl game would rock.
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Mon Jan-25-10 05:04 PM
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34. Well---I have said this before |
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Where would you rather attend a Super Bowl at in early Feb? Miami or Detroit?
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Mon Jan-25-10 05:17 PM
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35. Detroit (though they play indoors) |
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Then I could go to MOTOWN WINTER BLAST and do the luge and ice skate right downtown!
Lest you think I'm just talking out of my ass, let me tell you, I will actually be in the Detroit area on Super Bowl Sunday. I'm hoping there's snow.
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Mon Jan-25-10 06:03 PM
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36. LOL---I'm sure it's lovely.... |
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Mon Jan-25-10 06:47 PM
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37. I will say one thing I think we can all agree with |
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a game full of actual fans, no matter where it's held, would really be a better atmosphere than the circus it's become.
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Mon Jan-25-10 09:36 PM
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40. And I'll say that the Super Bowls I've attended all had real fans. |
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Mon Jan-25-10 10:35 PM
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41. Marla Maples, The Don and you |
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real fans. what was the book marla was reading?
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Tue Jan-26-10 06:07 AM
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42. Dude--- Three SB's in the last 20 years.. |
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How many have you been to?
The stands at these games are loaded with visiting fans from each team.
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Tue Jan-26-10 11:04 AM
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49. Going to Superbowls doe not prove you are a real fan |
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The mere fact that you think real fans attend the superbowl is a joke. Almost everyone on this blog and all fans I know concedes that the people attending are hardly sports fans. They are there because it is "cool" to go. I have been watching sports since "59. when the Dodgers played the White sox. I went to Ebbets field in 1955 with my Dad. I have 16 baseballs signed by the baseball stars of the 1940's including Jackie Robinson and Joe Dimaggio.
I have a Stan Musial balled signed to me with my name on it as I was in the clubhouse at the Polo Grounds on Stan Musial night on 9/17/63. We knew the coaches and trainers of the St. Louis Cardinals
I really started watching basketball in '64 and saw the famous Havlicek steal on TV.
I have watched every World series for the last 50 years. I played basketball until I was 46 and I wasn't a stiff.
I watched Namath beat the Colts and most every NFL playoff game and Superbowl.
Just because you attend a game doesn't mean shit and even at my age I could still kick your ass in hoop.
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Tue Jan-26-10 01:05 PM
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52. Nice post, cboy4! Bringing up the REAL SPORTS FAN stuff! |
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Bookmarked for future reading! :D
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57. no way I'm cboy 4 god strike me dead if I am n/t |
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Wed Jan-27-10 06:11 AM
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61. LOL---then you're alright by me Wilt... |
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BTW: I do appreciate our spirited discussions and debates.
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I was at those games and those were true blue Steeler fans....True Blue Indy fans---True Blue Niner fans, and so on....Fan's that drove many hours to attend the game. And there were thousands of them....
Point is--- I was at those SB's and saw 1000's of real fans attend those games.
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Wed Jan-27-10 08:35 AM
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63. Of course there are some |
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but let's face it it is the NFL selling out to the "rich" and connected. I just think that the hometown fan should be supported because they make the league go and they foot the bills. They use their hard earned dollars and when they were a shirt with the team logo on it, it means something. I started watching pre-superbowl so I have context into games before the superbowl. The Ice bowl has always been a game for the ages and for many year and maybe to this day it is considered he greatest game ever because of the homefield, the elements and the fans ad the dram of the game.
There is something special about winning in front of your fans or a visiting team coming in and beating you at home.
When "renewdata" said that soccer and college basketball is played at a neutral site. The whole tournament is at a neutral site. With his logic the whole NFL playoff should be neutral sites and it's not.
I don't think the argument stands that it is the most important game therefore it's should be at a neutral site. All the games in the playoffs are important. one and done and you are out.
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Tue Jan-26-10 12:52 PM
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50. You don't see them on TV - you just see the hoopla |
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and the halftime show really distracts a lot of times (though I'm looking forward to The Who).
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Wed Jan-27-10 07:11 AM
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62. Well---it is Hoopla... |
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It's the Super Bowl...the most watched event in the country.
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Mon Jan-25-10 06:55 PM
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38. I'm sorry, but If I'm going to a Super Bowl, the Polar Plunge is not a selling point. |
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Now a warm beach with 80 degree water, is a completely different story.
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Tue Jan-26-10 10:00 AM
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48. Wasn't it pouring rain during the last Miami Super Bowl? |
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They have that pretty dome. :shrug:
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Mon Jan-25-10 08:32 PM
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39. I don't think it's going to change the fanbase, it's about how the tickets are distributed |
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The rest of the championships in pro sports (Baseball, Basketball, Hockey) are best out of 7, not just a single game. Tickets are in higher demand because the one game itself is huge.
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Tue Jan-26-10 07:21 AM
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43. I'm in favor of a neutral field... |
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Every Super Bowl should be in Minnesota.
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Tue Jan-26-10 09:52 AM
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44. I like the way it's set up. |
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It's part of what makes it a special event. I wish they'd pick more cold weather cities to play in. You can play in NY or Boston in the winter. Green Bay would be tough, but special.
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Tue Jan-26-10 01:54 PM
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54. You're living in the past |
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a game such as the SB has to be played on a neutral field...
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Tue Jan-26-10 02:11 PM
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55. I'm in agreement with you, Upton. I am really looking forward to the "neutral" field next |
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somehow happen to get in, it's a bit of a problem for you. For it will serve to discredit any potential Dallas victory..
I wouldn't be concerned though. With Wade you're never going to win a SB..
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Tue Jan-26-10 02:33 PM
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58. only cause you let the NFL diss you. |
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I'm not saying that it will change but what I am saying is that the NFL disses the regular fan. It let's the regular fan pay for the entire season and when it is the most important game you guys let them take it from you and play it in front of a bunch of celebrities that are there to be seen. The celebrities have don't support these teams and have little to do with the NFL being successful.
They take the regular guy and throw him or her overboard for bullshit people and you people think it's a great idea.
Talk about being led around by the nose.
As far as seeing the Who. I first saw them at the Fillmore East in May '69 before Tommy and saw them 5 times playing Tommy and multiple times after that. One of the all time best concerts ever.
I saw them all with the exception of Jimi who I had tickets for at the Fillmore but didn't go.
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