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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 02:50 PM
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Bad Umpiring
Just watched baseball games for the first time in years.

Remembered why I quit watching.

Bad calls from the umps.

In this day and age there has to be a way that bad calls can be reversed.

Until such time, I refuse to watch anymore baseball games, or even follow baseball.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 02:56 PM
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1. Whatever.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 03:35 PM
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2. Are you steering clear of football, basketball and hockey as well? n/t
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 03:39 PM
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3. Football
They can reverse bad calls.

They still don't do it in baseball. The umps bad calls ruin the game.

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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 04:31 PM
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5. In football, there's a lot of calls that aren't reviewable
holding, pass interference, personal fouls, etc... that can have a significant impact on the game.

Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see instant replay in baseball (for more than just HR's), I just don't think that the game is unwatchable without it.
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 03:39 PM
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4. +10
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:24 PM
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6. It's just bad business
And it teaches kids the wrong lessons.

The kids see that you can get away with theft if it all goes just right.
That in certain cases there is little justice.

That the only crime is getting caught.
So many times they've seen bad prevail, and that is just an awful lesson.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:30 PM
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7. Blah. Blah. Blah.
:rofl:
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:37 PM
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8. Yeah yeah..life is rough..
you're not a real baseball fan anyway or you wouldn't be looking for reasons not to watch it.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:47 PM
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9. I used to play baseball
No, not pro. So to see it lag behind and show stupid shit from the umpires across America, and let it stand with NO effort to make it right, just goes to show they don't give a rats ass for truth, just $$$.

Screw it and their fake advertising.
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 09:21 PM
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10. Bad calls are part of the game..
They make for controversy, that's not always a bad thing. Baseball is going to institute some sort of limited replay system soon enough though.

Too bad you're going to be busy with your little one man boycott, because the post season is great..Each game, each series has it's own story, the drama in live playoff sports is unlike anything else...but you wouldn't want to watch anything like that. After all, you have your principles.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 09:28 PM
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11. Hey, if I get bored, I'll watch
It does have some great stories, but then it matters very little, doesn't it?

Life, all around, has many great stories that do matter, so....

Baseball is going to institute some sort of limited replay system soon enough though. ??
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Dyedinthewoolliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 09:35 PM
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12. So let me make sure I understand;
you say bad umpiring has ruined baseball. This is baseball right? The game that's been played at a major league level for 112 years. A game that is aid to have been played during the civil war. A game that has always had some kind of arbiter on the field.
Do you think the bad umps are just from the last few years or so or have we always had terrible umpires?
If we've always have bad umps how did the game survive them for this long? I think it's more a case of pursuing perfection friend. Umpires make hundreds of calls in a game. Some of those calls go against you and some of those call go for you. In the end, the players decide the game. I know we can find instances, heck one happened this year with the perfect game that wasn't, or as I call it, the "28 out perfect game".
But that's really an exception. The umps do not influence the game to the degree you make it out to be, in my opinion of course. :)
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 09:49 PM
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13. The good old days
Before TV and instant replay. These are not the good old days. Millions, maybe billion$ are in play now, and we have these computers....

There is a ton of emotion also involved and umpires can effect that emotion. Don't believe for one second they don't know that.

"Baseball is going to institute some sort of limited replay system soon enough though." About time, right?
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 04:02 PM
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14. One way to keep them honest
Review every called third strike. Via a panel of reviewers.

One thing I'd like to see that is high-tech, is a strike zone framed by lasers.
If the ball so much as touches a laser beam, it is a ball.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 04:41 PM
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15. Dude---
This has got to be a parody.

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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 08:39 PM
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16. +1
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 12:47 AM
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17. "... I refuse to watch anymore baseball games..." Goody! More baseball for me!
Seriously though, the "human element" is what makes ALL sports what they are. From top to bottom.

Without bad calls, we'd never have witnessed Earl Weaver being the Manager kicked out of the most games, or Billy Martin kicking dirt on an Umpire's uniform. It's all part of the experience.

I love my team, but not so much that bad calls which always seem to go against them could sour my love of the sport.

Like I said, the less baseball YOU watch, the more baseball I can watch... right? Right...? Um... Whut?
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