NFL referees are worthless piece of shit cowards...

[trumad]

They all need to be rounded up, placed on a boat, brought out to sea, and then sunk.

Rapist Ben fumbles into the end zone--- the ref reviews and calls it a fumble into the end zone--- Miami players swarm the ball and come up with it.

BUT---the refs say to disbelieving fans across the globe that they can't tell us who came up with it ---SO---THEy GIVE IT BACK TO THE STEALERS ON THE ONE YARD LINE.

[RockaFowler]

1. Totally agree

Worst officiating ever today. Oh yeah and the supposed "Personal Foul" near the end was just unbelievable. Again the Dolphins have been cheated out of a win.

[Junkdrawer]

2. LOL. Sitting in Pgh, I kinda guessed that call would upset Dolphins fans.....

Here's the deal: the call of touchdown was clearly wrong, but they blew whistles after the bad call. There was one hell of a melee going on for the ball and the refs stopped it before anyone had possession.

What else could they do?

[Hokie]

3. The replay clearly showed Miami recovered

A Miami player walked off with the ball. Every freaking person in the stadium including these inept ref's knew Miami had recovered the ball. I expect the NFL will come down with the secret sanctions on this clodhopper of an official. It won't change the outcome. I hope this is another nail in the coffin for this joke of a replay system that the NFL continues to inflict upon the fans. The NCAA has the right idea on replay although they seem incapable of doing much else right in determining a champion of their game. I understand the reason they can't. They are too scared to tell the bowl sponsors to go suck an egg.

[trumad]

5. Don't blame the camera's...

and remember---the ref said Rapist Ben fumbled before the goal line and without replay they wouldn't have determined that.

After the fumble the refs did not do their job and determine who came up with the fumble.

That is what the NFL will say in a few days when they admit the refs fucked up.

[trumad]

4. Two things with that scenario.

1}The rule was changed and you can reward possession even after the whistle was blown.

2} It is up to the referees to determine who comes up with the ball and Miami clearly did. The Ref's are obligated to complete the play no matter what. They knew Rapist Ben fumbled so it was their obligation to see who came up with the ball.

This is the worst call I've ever seen in football and I gurantee the NFL will come back and say the Ref's blew the call.

[Junkdrawer]

15. You have every right to complain about the ref who called it a TD....

but once the whistle blew and refs were signaling TD, the Steelers stopped fighting for the ball. Of course a Miami player would walk off with it.

Sad truth is that once a call is blown, it's not always possible to fix it with an instant replay.

[trumad]

17. again-you're dead wrong...

The Steelers were fighting for the ball but the Phins got it.

It is the obligation of the refs to see the play to it's conclusion. A whistle means nothing when it comes to a review. The players know that so if there's a fumble, they go after it.

Bottom line is the refs fucked the call up and it will be announced within two days that they indeed did.

[rpannier]

18. What???

A whistle means nothing when it comes to a review.

Once the whistle is blown the play is dead
You can only review up to the whistle
That's why once in a while you hear the refs say, "The play was blown dead before..."

[Junkdrawer]

20. I'd fear for player safety if "A whistle means nothing when it comes to a review"

If that were true, fights after the play were whistled dead would go on and on because, hey, the play might be reviewed.

It would set one hell of a dangerous precedent.

[JonLP24]

21. You can only review

if there was an instant fumble recovery. It makes since in situations where the QB is passing and he is hit, the refs call it a pass but a player dives on the ball as soon as it hits the ground can be reviewed and change possession. They changed the rule before last season and the San Diego-Denver game from 2008 was the main cause for the rule change. If there is an instant recovery you can challenge to determine possession. If it isn't immediate than you can't.

[Scurrilous]

23. LOL

Damn right the Steelers were still fighting for the ball.

Like they give up when they hear a whistle.

"Cease your efforts lads, yon official hath signaled end of play.":P

[Indianademocrat91]

24. or in rapistburgers case

when he hears no.

[Scurrilous]

31. Heh.

:thumbsup:

[cherokeeprogressive]

28. It's you who is wrong. A play that's whistled dead cannot be reviewed.

The only reviewable plays are possession calls, out of bounds calls, and where the ball should be place after the play.

Think about it for a second. Say the whistle blew and the play ended. The offense tosses the red flag and says we would have made X more yards on the play had the whistle not been blown! Who decides X?

[JonLP24]

29. You can review where there is an instant fumble recovery

This is more common when the refs calls the QB's fumble a pass.

Listen to the explanation during the Pittsburgh/Miami game. The refs said they couldn't determine who recovered the ball, not that they can't review it.

[trumad]

33. Sorry---but you're the one who is wrong...

Since 2006, a whistle hasn't always been a whistle in the NFL. In that off-season the rules committee made the determination that teams can recover a fumble even after an official has blown the play dead. This was done to bail refs out of ruling a fumbling player down by contact, only to be contradicted by replays. After the rule change, the call could be reversed, enabling the recovering team to get the ball despite the premature whistle.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/The-greatly-flawed-rule-on-recovering-fumbles-af?urn=nfl-207503

[Renew Deal]

37. I'm almost positive that no one blew a whistle.

The referee that signaled TD didn't blow it and I doubt the other guys would. Refs rarely blow whistles on normal plays at the NFL level.

[Renew Deal]

36. They didn't "know" he fumbled. They signaled Touchdown.

Which means they completed the play when they signaled TD. And from the angle of that ref, it looked like a TD. They had to look at 3 angles to change that play.

I don't think their mechanics tell them to treat a TD like a fumble in that situation, but I'm not sure.

[Scurrilous]

6. Notwithstanding the fact the refs jobbed us...

...the play calling on that last drive by the Dolphins was total @#$%.

[trumad]

7. Yep

Brown up the middle. 3rd and 8.

Brown hadn't done shit all day---what a 2 yard average?

[JVS]

8. LOL

[madinmaryland]

9. Too funny!

Blame the ref's for your team's failure.

[trumad]

11. Well--- I think they should include on the boat

certain douchebags that roam this forum.

[madinmaryland]

14. And yet if I commented on the ref's "calls" against the Cowboys that

put them in their position, you would be telling me to man-up. Thanks for the advice, Rush.

[Lucian]

10. The refs have sucked all over the board this year.

[trumad]

12. Yep

but this cost the Phins the game pure and simple.

[JVS]

13. I'm sure that next time the Dolphins will be sure to have "indisputable evidence"

:rofl:

[JVS]

16. You know who else needs to be put on that boat?

Offenses that are incapable of scoring any touchdowns.

[rpannier]

19. I might be more impressed had the Dolphins done something more than get 1 TD and 5 fg

Normally winning teams (and teams that should win) get 2, 3, 4 offensive TD's

[joeybee12]

22. I just read that Tiny Ben claims he had control of the ball the whole time...

Wow, a rapist AND a liar...classy guy.

[trumad]

25. He's a fucking bald faced liar...

He wasn't even close.

[Awsi Dooger]

26. The two referees involved live in Pittsburgh

The guy who signaled TD and the head referee who made the final replay call.

That more than stinks. I have no idea how the NFL allows that type of set up. It's an appearance of favoritism without knowing anything about the two men.

Throughout the process I was certain the Dolphins would be screwed. Pittsburgh is a public team that always seems to receive more than benefit of a doubt. The Super Bowl penalty avalanche vs. Seattle was hardly the only example. Two years ago the Steelers got a ridiculous replay reversal on the goal line against the Ravens, a pass to Santonio Holmes inside the final minute that clearly did not break the plane of the goal line yet was changed to a game winning TD.

[tigereye]

35. yeah, because every ref always throws the game for the team from his home-

town. :eyes:

[trumad]

38. The two refs live in Pitt

and you're so confident they're not biased?

Get you head out of the sand.

[tigereye]

45. that's silly and over-generalizing. Would you make the same argument about

a ref from Miami, or Chicago, or Philly if those folks were working games for those teams? :shrug:

[JonLP24]

46. Need Houchili to work some Arizona games

He is trial lawyer based out in Scottsdale, even named in the Super Lawyers magazine. Though he has worked here as a lawyer before the Cardinals moved out here so he may not have bias towards the Cardinals.

I'm just kidding about getting Houchili to work Arizona games. I will have to see what happens when he does work a game featuring Arizona.

[trumad]

47. Yep

[tigereye]

48. do you allow hometown or personal bias to affect your work?

:shrug: Most professionals try very hard not to.

[trumad]

49. Think what you are saying...

Are you stating that hometown bias and favoritism doesn't exist in the professional ranks?

[tigereye]

50. it shouldn't, not on a grand scale- I'm not a sports nut, though, so I may be

a bit naive here.


What I was saying is that anyone who showed blatant favoritism as any kind of judge or referee wouldn't last long, if those folks have any standards. :shrug:

[trumad]

51. Standards in the U.S.A?

Come on.

Look--- these guy's may be outstanding citizens---I have no idea if they are or not.

Point is--- to avoid any type of conflict the NFL should make sure that the Ref's for the game don't reside in the city that the teams come from. And that goes for Miami as well.

[tigereye]

54. yeah, you are probably right, and then there would be no concerns...

[flvegan]

27. OMG trumad is upset.

Must be daylight savings, since I can set my watch by it.

[Iggo]

30. Thank god he's not interested in basketball.

Now THOSE are some refs!

[chelsea0011]

32. I was mildly amused that after the game ended and they went back to the studios, not one

host was willing to question the refs.

[ScreamingMeemie]

40. They questioned the hell out of the call on ESPN last night.

[WilliamPitt]

34. I knew this thread would be here

And I agree. The call was deranged.

[ScreamingMeemie]

39. I guess I could say welcome to the club of pissed off fans due to crap

ref calls, there's a ton of them this year. My son is apoplectic because it has cost the Lions two games this year.

[RockaFowler]

41. That's where the bad calls this year started

The Lions were ROBBED of a victory and now are still languishing without a road win in over 3 years.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

42. As a Seahawks fan, I feel your pain regarding phantom Big Ben touchdowns.

At least yours didn't happen in the Super Bowl and there is time left in the season to rectify the mistake.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

43. Don't forget when Vinnie Testaverde's helmet scored in 1998, RiF.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

44. Semper memento!

[Iggo]

52. LOL...cowards?

Uh-splen.

[1gobluedem]

53. They must have gotten confused and thought the Lions were playing

I thought those kinds of bad calls were reserved for them.

[Goblinmonger]

55. You should be really pissed about the GB/Vikes calls, then.

They took away a Vikings touchdown that clearly met the rules that cost the Lions their TD and gave a touchdown to GB where he clearly didn't have possession of the ball (though I blame Childress--who I DESPISE--for not throwing the flag).