+++ NFL Week 14 Picks +++

[Auggie]

Three weeks left. PRETZEL and RagAss made big moves to solidify their leads. TIme for big risk taking (just ask Goblinmonger, Mr. 13-1 last week). New England / Chicago: Super Bowl Preview? We'll find out just how good that Chicago defense is. Good friggin' luck.

Note on the San Diego / Kansas City game: Last available point spread was San Diego -7, but that was before the Cassel apendectomy Wednesday. Officially there's no spread on this game until there's word on the Chiefs starting QBs status. So that's the way we'll play it.

Favorite Spread Underdog (Home team in CAPS)

JACKSONVILLE / 4 / Oakland

PITTSBURGH / 8.5 / Cincinnati

New England / 3 / CHICAGO

BUFFALO / 1 / Cleveland

NY Giants / 2.5 / MINNESOTA

Green Bay / 6.5 / DETROIT

Atlanta / 7 / CAROLINA

Tampa Bay / 2 / WASHINGTON

NEW ORLEANS / 9 / St. Louis

SAN FRANCISCO / 5.5 / Seattle

NY JETS / 5.5 / Miami

Denver / 5.5 / ARIZONA

SAN DIEGO / OFF / Kansas City

Philadelphia / 3.5 / DALLAS

Baltimore / 3 / HOUSTON

[JonLP24]

1. Standings

Last week-Goblinmonger: Ouch

"I still have one more slot I can move down, though!" :rofl:

RK DUer (REC) PCT (WKS PLYD)
1. PRETZEL (89-74) .546 (1-2,4-13)
2. RagAss (90-77) .540 (1-11,13)
3. chollybocker (94-86) .522 (1-13)
4. many a good man (85-80) .515 (1,3-13)
5. Auggie (90-90) .500 (1-13)
6. Goblinmonger (77-77) .500 (1-5,7,9-13)
7. InternalDialogue (82-83) .497 (1,3-13)
8. Scurrilous (82-84) .494 (1-12)
9. Condem (88-92) .489 (1-13)
10. fishwax (88-92) .489 (1-13)
11. flvegan (88-92) .489 (1-13)
12. Forkboy (87-92) .483 (1-13)
13. Redbear (72-81) .471 (1-4,7-13)
14. Liberal_Dog (84-96) .467 (1-13)
15. JonLP24 (82-98) .456 (1-13)
16. brendan120678 (76-104) .422 (1-13)
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joeybee12 (34-50) WEEKS 2-6, 9
madinmaryland (32-41) WEEKS 1-5
Bluzmann57 (14-15) WEEKS 1-2
mitchreject (9-5) WEEK 1
hughee99 (7-7) WEEK 1

[Auggie]

5. Thank you JonLP24

:thumbsup:

[JonLP24]

2. I need clarification on Chiefs/Chargers

Are we waiting for an official word on Cassell before we can pick that game? Or are we picking the game as if the spread was even? Or are we playing San Diego favored at 7?

Yahoo!(they never lied to me before) says he is extremely doubtful and the Chiefs signed Tyler Palco, likely to back-up Brodie Croyle who is taking first team snaps.

[Auggie]

4. Play it as even

[brendan120678]

3. Yeah I suck...I know...

Picks:

JACKSONVILLE
PITTSBURGH
CHICAGO
BUFFALO
MINNESOTA
Green Bay
Atlanta
WASHINGTON
NEW ORLEANS
SAN FRANCISCO
Miami
Denver
SAN DIEGO (no matter what happens or what the spread is)
Philadelphia
Baltimore

[JonLP24]

6. John Skelton is the likely starter for Arizona at QB

Which may actually help their chances. Stronger arm than Max Hall and there is something Arizona liked about him in the draft. They traded a 6th and Bryant McFadden to Pittsburgh to move up in the 5th round to draft him.

OK moving on to picks.

Oakland
Pittsburgh
Chicago
Cleveland
NY Giants
Green Bay
Carolina
Tampa Bay
St. Louis
San Francisco
NY Jets
Arizona
San Diego
Philadelphia
Baltimore

(This week seems a little easier than last week)

[Auggie]

8. And in case you hadn't heard, Alex Smith is starting for San Francisco

Not that would it make any difference

[JonLP24]

9. Didn't know that

I have no idea how Troy Smith has played but looking at his numbers, not great. All I have is the MNF game against Arizona where his speed helped him to evade a few sacks. Frustrating.

Anyways I mostly based my pick on the fact San Francisco's pass D is slightly better, they run the ball more than Seattle, and WR Mike Williams is unlikely to play this week. However all this could mean San Francisco wins by 3 and Seattle still covers.

[Auggie]

11. Mike Singletary says Alex Smith gives them a better chance of winning...

Says Troy Smith's knowledge of the playbook is really limited and opposing defenses have figured out how to defend his roll-outs and running.

I thought the secondary played horrible against Green Bay last week. And then the secondary coach, Johnnie Lynn, suddenly and mysteriously resigned this week with no official comment why. I'm holding off my picks trying to figure this out.

[JonLP24]

12. Hey--when I said San Francisco's pass D

is slightly better than Seattle's I wasn't trying to say San Francisco was in the top 16 or anything like that. In fact both teams are in the bottom 10. :)

That is fascinating about their secondary coach though. I will say Rodgers can make almost any pass D look bad. He is third in YPA with a whopping 8.13.

Yeah I get Singletary's reasoning. it looks like Troy Smith had some success early on but the last 3 games (even Arizona) his numbers were poor.

[Redbear]

7. My picks

JACKSONVILLE
Cincinnati
CHICAGO
Cleveland
NY Giants
Green Bay
Atlanta
WASHINGTON
St. Louis
SAN FRANCISCO
NY JETS
Denver
SAN DIEGO
Philadelphia
HOUSTON

[PRETZEL]

10. My picks,

Jacksonville
Pittsburgh
New England
Cleveland
NY Giants
Green Bay
Atlanta
Tampa Bay
St. louis
Seattle
Miami
Denver
Kansas City
Philadelphia
Baltimore

[RagAss]

13. Mine....

Oakland
PITTSBURGH
New England
BUFFALO
NY Giants
Green Bay
Atlanta
WASHINGTON
NEW ORLEANS
Seattle
NY JETS
Denver
SAN DIEGO
DALLAS
Baltimore

[flvegan]

14. My picks:

Oakland
Pittsburgh
New England
Cleveland
NY Giants
Green Bay
Atlanta
Tampa Bay
New Orleans
Seattle
NY Jets
Denver
San Diego
Philadelphia
Baltimore

[InternalDialogue]

15. My picks

JACKSONVILLE

PITTSBURGH

New England

Cleveland

NY Giants

DETROIT

Atlanta

Tampa Bay

St. Louis

SAN FRANCISCO

Miami

Denver

Kansas City

Philadelphia

Baltimore

[Liberal_Dog]

16. My Picks

JACKSONVILLE / 4 / Oakland-----Jacksonville

PITTSBURGH / 8.5 / Cincinnati-----Cincinnati

New England / 3 / CHICAGO-----New England

BUFFALO / 1 / Cleveland-----Cleveland

NY Giants / 2.5 / MINNESOTA-----Minnesota

Green Bay / 6.5 / DETROIT-----Detroit

Atlanta / 7 / CAROLINA-----Atlanta

Tampa Bay / 2 / WASHINGTON-----Tampa Bay

NEW ORLEANS / 9 / St. Louis-----New Orleans

SAN FRANCISCO / 5.5 / Seattle-----Seattle

NY JETS / 5.5 / Miami-----NY Jets

Denver / 5.5 / ARIZONA-----Denver

SAN DIEGO / OFF / Kansas City-----San Diego

Philadelphia / 3.5 / DALLAS-----DALLAS

Baltimore / 3 / HOUSTON-----Houston

[Auggie]

17. Picks:

Oakland
Cincinnati
New England
Cleveland
NY Giants
Green Bay
Atlanta
Tampa Bay
St. Louis
San Francisco
NY Jets
Denver
San Diego
Dallas
Baltimore

The 49ers, Raiders and Browns better cover/beat the spread or I'm going to be :mad: as hell

[many a good man]

18. WK XIV PKS

OAK
CIN
CHI
CLE
MIN
DET
ATL
TB
STL
SEA
MIA
ARI
SD
PHI
HOU


Browns can make the playoffs if they run the table (BUF, CIN, PIT, BAL) and the Ravens lose 3 of their last 4 (HOU, NO, CIN, CLE), and other wildcard contenders (IND, MIA, OAK, SD) lose at least once.

[Auggie]

20. I like their chances

:)

[many a good man]

27. Browns Playoff Dreams Come Crashing down with reality of pathetic loss to Bills

Never saw that one coming. :sarcasm:

[JonLP24]

28. It seems Cleveland can't generate much offense outside of Hillis

Hillis did very well in terms of yardage but the fumble in Bills territory hurt. I can't fault him too much though, he was in the air fighting for extra yardage.

[many a good man]

29. Kryptonite

They found Superman Hillis' weak spot!

[Forkboy]

19. Picks...

Jacksonville
Pittsburgh
New England
Cleveland
NY Giants
Green Bay
Carolina
Tampa Bay
New Orleans
Seattle
NY Jets
Arizona
Kansas City
Philadelphia
Baltimore

[chollybocker]

21. XIV

JACKSONVILLE
PITTSBURGH
PATS PATS PATS !!!
Cleveland
NY Giants
Green Bay
Atlanta
Tampa Bay
St. Louis
Seattle
Miami
Denver
SAN DIEGO
DALLAS
Baltimore

[Auggie]

22. WEATHER CHANGE:

It's expected to be a rough day in Chicago -- lot of snow and wind. I'm changing my pick from the Pats to the Bears. Bears have the #2 rush defense in the league. I'll stick with the Giants over the Vikes, with or without Favre, because this game won't be played in the Metrodome.

Posted at 8:19 am, PST

Revised picks:

Oakland
Cincinnati
Chicago
Cleveland
NY Giants
Green Bay
Atlanta
Tampa Bay
St. Louis
San Francisco
NY Jets
Denver
San Diego
Dallas
Baltimore

[Auggie]

30. Da Bears...

"Cold Weather Team" my ass

[Condem]

23. Going out on a limb and say that weather will be a HUGE factor, today.

Oakland
Pittsburgh
NE
Cleveland
Gints (wherever the fuck they play this tilt)
Green Bay
Atlanta
Washington
St Louis
SF
Jets
Denver
SD
Igs
Baltimore

[Auggie]

24. Scurrilous? Goblinmonger?

[Goblinmonger]

25. Picks

JACKSONVILLE

PITTSBURGH

CHICAGO

BUFFALO

MINNESOTA

Green Bay

Atlanta

Tampa Bay

NEW ORLEANS

SAN FRANCISCO

NY JETS

Denver

SAN DIEGO

Philadelphia

Baltimore

[Goblinmonger]

26. 11:59--just made it

I was out snowblowing the neighborhood for 3 hours.

[Auggie]

31. AND THE WINNERS ARE...

brendan120678

and

RagAss

with records of 10 wins and 5 losses
:applause::applause:

Honorable mention goes to InternalDialogue and chollyblocker at 9 wins, 6 losses

Good weekend for some -- tough weekend for others. Only three weeks left to figure it out. See you Thursday.


Favorite (SC) / Spread / Underdog (SC) WINNER

JACKSONVILLE (38) / 4 / Oakland (31) JACKSONVILLE
PITTSBURGH (23) / 8.5 / Cincinnati (7) PITTSBURGH
New England (36) / 3 / CHICAGO (7) NEW ENGLAND
BUFFALO (13) / 1 / Cleveland (6) BUFFALO
NY Giants (21) / 2.5 / MINNESOTA (3) NY GIANTS
Green Bay (3) / 6.5 / DETROIT (7) DETROIT
Atlanta (31) / 7 / CAROLINA (10) ATLANTA
Tampa Bay (17) / 2 / WASHINGTON (16) WASHINGTON
NEW ORLEANS (31) / 9 / St. Louis (13) NEW ORLEANS
SAN FRANCISCO (40) / 5.5 / Seattle (21) SAN FRANCISCO
NY JETS (6) / 5.5 / Miami (10) MIAMI
Denver (13) / 5.5 / ARIZONA (43) ARIZONA
SAN DIEGO (31) / OFF / Kansas City (0) SAN DIEGO
Philadelphia (30) / 3.5 / DALLAS (27) DALLAS
Baltimore (34) / 3 / HOUSTON (28) BALTIMORE

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brendan120678: 10 wins, 5 losses

W—Jacksonville
W—Pittsburgh
L—Chicago
W—Buffalo
L—Minnesota
L—Green Bay
W—Atlanta
W—Washington
W—New Orleans
W—San Francisco
W—Miami
L—Denver
W—San Diego
L—Philadelphia
W—Baltimore
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RagAss: 10 wins, 5 losses

L—Oakland
W—Pittsburgh
W—New England
W—Buffalo
W—NY Giants
L—Green Bay
W—Atlanta
W—Washington
W—New Orleans
L—Seattle
L—NY Jets
L—Denver
W—San Diego
W—Dallas
W—Baltimore
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InternalDialogue: 9 wins, 6 losses

W—Jacksonville
W—Pittsburgh
W—New England
L—Cleveland
W—NY Giants
W—Detroit
W—Atlanta
L—Tampa Bay
L—St. Louis
W—San Francisco
W—Miami
L—Denver
L—Kansas City
L—Philadelphia
W—Baltimore
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chollyblocker: 9 wins, 6 losses

W—Jacksonville
W—Pittsburgh
W—New England
L—Cleveland
W—NY Giants
L—Green Bay
W—Atlanta
L—Tampa Bay
L—St. Louis
L—Seattle
W—Miami
L—Denver
W—San Diego
W—Dallas
W—Baltimore
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Condem: 8 wins, 7 losses

L—Oakland
W—Pittsburgh
W—New England
L—Cleveland
W—NY Giants
L—Green Bay
W—Atlanta
W—Washington
L—St Louis
W—San Francisco
L—NY Jets
L—Denver
W—San Diego
L—Philadelphia
W—Baltimore
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Globlinmonger: 8 wins, 7 losses

W—Jacksonville
W—Pittsburgh
L—Chicago
W—Buffalo
L—Minnesota
L—Green Bay
W—Atlanta
L—Tampa Bay
W—New Orleans
W—San Francisco
L—NY Jets
L—Denver
W—San Diego
L—Philadelphia
W—Baltimore
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PRETZEL: 7 wins, 8 losses

W—Jacksonville
W—Pittsburgh
W—New England
L—Cleveland
W—NY Giants
L—Green Bay
W—Atlanta
L—Tampa Bay
L—St. louis
L—Seattle
W—Miami
L—Denver
L—Kansas City
L—Philadelphia
W—Baltimore
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flvegan: 7 wins, 8 losses

L—Oakland
W—Pittsburgh
W—New England
L—Cleveland
W—NY Giants
L—Green Bay
W—Atlanta
L—Tampa Bay
W—New Orleans
L—Seattle
L—NY Jets
L—Denver
W—San Diego
L—Philadelphia
W—Baltimore
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Liberal_Dog: 7 wins, 8 losses

W—Jacksonville
L—Cincinnati
W—New England
L—Cleveland
L—Minnesota
W—Detroit
W—Atlanta
L—Tampa Bay
W—New Orleans
L—Seattle
L—NY Jets
L—Denver
W—San Diego
W—Dallas
L—Houston
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Forkboy: 7 wins, 8 losses

W—Jacksonville
W—Pittsburgh
W—New England
L—Cleveland
W—NY Giants
L—Green Bay
L—Carolina
L—Tampa Bay
W—New Orleans
L—Seattle
L—NY Jets
W—Arizona
L—Kansas City
L—Philadelphia
W—Baltimore
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Redbear: 6 wins, 9 losses

W—Jacksonville
L—Cincinnati
L—Chicago
L—Cleveland
W—NY Giants
L—Green Bay
W—Atlanta
W—Washington
L—St. Louis
W—San Francisco
L—NY Jets
L—Denver
W—San Diego
L—Philadelphia
L—Houston
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Auggie: 6 wins, 9 losses

L—Oakland
L—Cincinnati
L—Chicago
L—Cleveland
W—NY Giants
L—Green Bay
W—Atlanta
L—Tampa Bay
L—St. Louis
W—San Francisco
L—NY Jets
L—Denver
W—San Diego
W—Dallas
W—Baltimore
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JonLP24: 6 wins, 9 losses

L—Oakland
W—Pittsburgh
L—Chicago
L—Cleveland
W—NY Giants
L—Green Bay
L—Carolina
L—Tampa Bay
L—St. Louis
W—San Francisco
L—NY Jets
W—Arizona
W—San Diego
L—Philadelphia
W—Baltimore
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many a good man: 5 wins, 10 losses

L—Oakland
L—Cincinnati
L—Chicago
L—Cleveland
L—Minnesota
W—Detroit
W—Atlanta
L—Tampa Bay
L—St. Louis
L—Seattle
W—Miami
W—Arizona
W—San Diego
L—Philadelphia
L—Houston

[JonLP24]

32. Damn Tampa & Oakland

Couldn't hold on long enough for me to cover. All Oakland had to do was hold Jacksonville to a field goal.

Oh well. Better than I thought I would end up after nearly picking all of the morning games wrong. Congrats to the winners. :toast:

[Auggie]

35. I saw the Oakland game - they gave it away to the Jaguars

Plus I switched picks and went with Chicago on account of the weather -- dumb.

[PRETZEL]

33. Congrats Ragass and Brendan120678

alot of tough games,

[RagAss]

36. Thanks PRETZEL

[brendan120678]

34. And yet, I'm still...

stuck in the cellar.

Oh well.