For the OSU Haters ... Tressel's 10 years

[Botany]

Tressel's 10 years

7 Big Ten Titles
6 Big Ten Titles in a row
2010 a top 5 finish w/ a Sugar Bowl Win
8 BCS Bowls (5 wins and 3 losses)
3 National Championship Games (1 Win and 2 Losses)
and Terrell Pryor got some sweet tats and some fat rides.



BTW Ohio State can't win the big game :rofl:

[trumad]

1. Honestly---I've always liked Tessel.

He took a heavy underdog into the Fiesta Bowl and beat my Canes--- a Cane team that had 6 number one draft choices in that years NFL draft. A Cane team that I think was one of the best college teams ever.

That's coaching.

[Botany]

2. But looking back that 2002 OSU team was one the very best ever on defense

Every player who started including the nickel back (Will Allen), the second team linebacker (A.J. Hawk),
and the second team D-lineman (Simon Frasier) wound up playing in the NFL. Miami could not run on them
and they had to hold the whole game. That OSU team was awesome and they could have played Miami
10 times and won 8 of the games.

BTW most of those players were left over from John Cooper's run .... John could get the players but
his coaching was not the best.

Defensive Starters

FS
Donnie Nickey
Will Allen

Sam LB Middle LB Will LB
Robert Reynolds Matt Wilhelm Cie Grant
Bobby Carpenter Mike D'Andrea A. J. Hawk
SS
Mike Doss
Tyler Everett
CB
Chris Gamble
E.J. Underwood

DE DT DT DE
Will Smith Kenny Peterson Tim Anderson Darrion Scott
Simon Fraser Marcus Green David Thompson Mike Kudla
CB
Dustin Fox
Nate Salley

[trumad]

3. OK---now you're just plain goofy...

8 out of 10 times?---possibly the stupidest comment ever in the sports forum.

Shit--- Miami played like shit that game and still led in almost every stat category... total yards---369 to 267 for instance.

And don't get me started on the worst ref call in NCAA history.

[Botany]

6. That Ohio State Team was loaded on defense that year

Except for the Michigan game the knocked out every QB that played against them in
2002. Greatness was all about them.

And as for "the call" the d.b. mugged chris gamble.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGQYgyOOP2s

The last play from the game for your enjoyment.

[Awsi Dooger]

8. The Buckeyes were so great that Cincinnati dropped two game winning passes in the final seconds

I tend to remember little details like that. Comes in handy when bozos in Las Vegas sportsbooks come up with ridiculous arguments, similar to yours.

Cincinnati passed for more than 300 yards in what would have been the most embarrassing defeat in Buckeyes history, narrowly avoided. Clarett was out that game with injury. Admittedly I was wary of blue collar Ohio State all year as a Canes fan so I remember every desperate Ohio State escape. If they'd lost one time among all the razor finishes -- Cincinnati, Penn State, Illinois, Purdue, Michigan -- Miami would have cruised in a title game against an up tempo foe like Georgia, Oregon or upstart USC.

Ohio State was so busy knocking out QBs with their relentless greatness that Texas Tech, Cincinnati, Washington State, Indiana, Northwestern, San Jose State, Purdue, Illinois and Michigan all passed for 247 or more yards, prior to Miami's 304. Those were some fabulous halfback passes, obviously a flurry of them every game.

Ohio State would have won 8 out of 10 from Miami? Do you have a shred of comprehension how much of an adjustment that would require? There's a money line equivalent to claims like that, believe it or not. Teams that win 8 out of 10 can't be projected to win a string of close games. To be asserted to win 8 out of 10 you have to believe Ohio State warrants point spread favoritism equating to a 4/1 favorite. I realize the media never points out fundamentals like that, preferring talking head rambling idiocy. A 4/1 money line favorite aligns with an 11 point favorite in college football, which is almost exactly what Miami was favored by at game time (11.5). The money line was 4/1 in the Canes' favor. So you are comfy to adjust the rightful spread by 22.5 points. Well done. :rofl:

I bet Ohio State and thought the spread was inflated by several points. My estimate then and now is the Buckeyes would win 3 out of 10, which equates to Miami as roughly a 6 point favorite. IMO, if the teams played multiple times the spread would properly settle in that range.

Otherwise, Buckeye fans conveniently ignore the entirety of the game when posting a video of the controversial play. From the outset the referees had established that it would not be a tightly called game, notably in the secondary. Contact was allowed all night. The ABC crew and particularly radio announcing crew pointed it out repeatedly, including on 4th and 14 in OT when Gamble was not called for a blatant push off. The same referee who was closest to the decisive play did not call offensive interference on Gamble, and he was extremely consistent in not calling anything on Glenn Sharpe, Miami's freshman DB who covered Gamble on the controversial play.

Krenzel sat on his ass after that play, with dejected expression and head tilting downward, hardly begging for a call. He understood the way the game had been officiated. Terry Porter bailed him out and improperly rewrote history several seconds later.

BTW, normally when I dominate a head-to-head argument in a sportsbook it's worth at least 20 bucks, the pre-stated wager. Consider yourself fortunate. :)

[trumad]

9. Umm

Botany?

[GaYellowDawg]

10. Um, no.

You wouldn't have cruised against Georgia. We had a superb defense that year, with three eventual first-round NFL draft picks, Jonathan Sullivan (DL), 3-time consensus All-American David Pollack (DE), and strong safety Thomas Davis (who was a major contributor as a redshirt freshman). Every one of our linebackers, Boss Bailey, Tony Gilbert, and Chris Clemons, started in the NFL for at least three years. CB Bruce Thornton started a year for the 49ers. Free safety Sean Jones was a second-round NFL draft pick. Kentrell Curry and Decory Bryant were seen as NFL material before they suffered injuries. Our offense was led by David Greene, who at one point held the NCAA record for career wins by a QB. We had a 1,000 yard rusher, Musa Smith, who was a 3rd round NFL draft pick. On the OL, we had Jon Stinchcomb, who, I think, is still starting for the Saints, and first-round draft pick George Foster at OT.

We got really hot at the end of the season. We beat bowl-bound Georgia Tech 51-7, and drilled SEC West representative Arkansas 30-3 in the SEC Championship Game. And believe me - I was at the game - Arkansas wouldn't have scored without some timely penalties assessed by the refs in the second half. And the Florida State team that you struggled to beat by a single point? We beat them by 13, and the game wasn't that close. We would have given you a good game.

[hughee99]

4. Congrats to Ohio State and Tressel for finally beating an SEC team.

It was a true team effort all around. Heyward was awesome, the offense played well, they were well coached, the fans were very loud, and their compliance department took the heat so the suspensions didn't kick in until after the Bowl game. In the end, from a competitive standpoint, I'd rather those players play and have Arkansas lose then have them suspended for the bowl and have Arkansas win against the backups.

[madinmaryland]

5. "Error: You can't recommend threads from this forum"

K&R, anyhow!

[RT Atlanta]

7. Oh yeah...

they finally beat a team from the SEC in a bowl game after 9 or 10 tries.