Barry Bonds Perjury Trial Thread

[Auggie]

San Francisco Chronicle / March 21, 2011

Jury selection begins in Bonds' perjury trial

SAN FRANCISCO -- Jury selection began in San Francisco today for the trial of former Giants slugger Barry Bonds, who is accused of lying under oath when he denied using steroids.

U.S. District Judge Susan Illston's clerk swore in an initial panel of 38 prospective jurors for the trial of baseball's home-run champion, the biggest star in the game's long history to face felony indictment.

SNIP

The 14 initial panelists seated in the jury box included a carpenter from Foster City, the head of a human rights fellowship program at UC Berkeley and an Antioch retiree with previous jury service. "It's hard to make decisions about other people's lives," the retiree said.

Another panelist, a retired San Francisco man who said he liked to watch baseball, said he wasn't eager to serve. "I would be reluctant to render a judgment against a great athlete like Mr. Bonds, so it may cloud my judgment," he said.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/03/21/BA041IG6FL.DTL#ixzz1HGyj6Y5T

:popcorn:

[joeybee12]

1. I can't imagine they'll find him guilty because I can't imagine they can find

12 people in the Bay Area whose mouths AREN'T attached to Barroid's enormous butt.

[Upton]

2. On the contrary..

despite how some in the media may have portrayed it, Giants' fans, and by extension the Bay Area, have always been very divided about Bonds. Personally, I'm glad he's no longer with the team for a lot of different reasons..and after seeing the Giants success after he left, that opinion was only reinforced.

Of course, all that doesn't change the fact that this is all nothing but a government witchunt..

[joeybee12]

3. Just a note...opinions aren't facts...nt

[Upton]

4. In my opinion...it's a fact..

so there..

[madinmaryland]

5. And you found the one DUer whose mouth is definitely planted

on Bond's butt.

[Upton]

7. Sure I hope gets off..

I don't like to see anybody trampled by an oppressive government prosecution. And it's not just Bonds..remember prosecutors have attempted to intimidate potential witnesses into testifying. Even going so far as to go after Greg Anderson's family members. The judge hasn't been too happy with their tactics...one has to wonder why the so called good liberals here in the DU sports forum are..

[madinmaryland]

8. Well, he did LIE to a federal grand jury. Isn't that what got Scooter?

I think best would be El's suggestion, that all of Bonds records in baseball be erase, and all awards that the Ginats won during those years be forfeited. Sounds fair to me.

[Onceuponalife]

40. Get out the asterisk!!

[trumad]

12. Oh come on Cboy....

give up the masquerade.

[El Supremo]

6. You know, I really don't care if Bonds goes to jail or not....

I just want him banned from baseball (permanently - not temporarily like most the others) and all his records removed from the books.

Now Selig is the one that needs to go to jail, preferably to something like Devils Island.

[Auggie]

9. I think the best you'll get as far as Bonds goes is

a great big asterisk next to his stats (which is already there) and continued disregard from HOF voters (whether found guilty or innocent). If you remove Bonds' records a lot of others should go to.

[El Supremo]

10. The season home run records of McGuire and Sosa...

would be first on that list after Bonds.

[KamaAina]

18. Yesterday morning Gary Radnich (local sports radio jock) was saying he'd be in the HOF in 20 years

and that all of this would have been largely forgotten. :shrug:

[Auggie]

19. I disagree. It's not in the nature of baseball fans

to give up a debate of that magnitude so easily.

We'll have to check back to this thread in 20 years.

:)

[TZ]

28. Given that Roger Maris record still had some people

calling it 61* when McGwire and Sosa destroyed it in 1998, I think you are right Auggie

[Onceuponalife]

41. Definitely no HOF for

this blemish on baseball's behind that is Baroid.

[Upton]

11. List of jurors..

• Juror 56: Woman, 57, nurse.
• Juror 42: Woman, 19, college student.
• Juror 36: Woman, 25, aid-giver to developmentally disabled.
• Juror 6: Woman, 30, autism support specialist.
• Juror 97: Woman, 27, phlebotomist.
• Juror 69: Man, 68, temporary shipping clerk.
• Juror 66: Man, 60, data center engineer.
• Juror 3: Woman, 51, client service administrator.
• Juror 19. Woman, 26, food server.
• Juror 90: Man, 57, IT manager.
• Juror 73: Woman, 28, nurse.
• Juror 21: Man, 68, retired cashier.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=6245956&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines

[Auggie]

13. Eight women, four men. Three with medical ties. Interesting...

[Upton]

14. Thing that jumps out at me..

is, of the 4 men, 3 are over 60, the other 57. Meaning they're old enough to remember the careers of Aaron and Maris. Just generally, I don't see how this can possibly be beneficial to Bonds....

[El Supremo]

15. Prosecutors' opening statement:

SAN FRANCISCO (AP)—A federal prosecutor says it is “ridiculous and unbelievable” that Barry Bonds thought he was taking flax seed oil and arthritis cream when his personal trainer gave him steroids.

Assistant U.S. attorney Matt Parrella delivered the opening statement Tuesday for federal prosecutors in Bonds’ long-awaited perjury trial. Seven years ago, Bonds told a grand jury investigating sports doping that he never knowingly took performance-enhancing drugs.

But Parrella said Bonds lied to the grand jury, even though the government promised not to prosecute him for drug use if he testified truthfully.

Parrella said that when it came to admitting his own drug use Bonds “couldn’t do it.”

Bonds’ lawyers will deliver their opening statements next.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-bondstrial

[Auggie]

16. Bonds' trainer won't testify, goes back to prison

San Francisco Chronicle / March 22, 2010

SAN FRANCISCO -- Barry Bonds' weight trainer was ordered back to prison today for refusing to testify in the perjury trial of baseball's all-time home-run king.

At a hearing in U.S. District Court in San Francisco, Greg Anderson told Judge Susan Illston he would not testify for prosecutors who accuse Bonds of lying when he told a federal grand jury he had never knowingly used steroids.

Anderson, Bonds' boyhood friend and longtime trainer, already has served more than a year in prison for contempt of court because he would not cooperate with the government's investigation of the former Giants star. He also served several months behind bars after pleading guilty to steroid dealing in the Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative case.

Illston has refused to allow prosecutors to introduce what they called crucial evidence - private steroid test results and doping calendars - because Anderson would not verify that he kept them for Bonds. Anderson will be imprisoned for the duration of the trial, the judge said today.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/03/22/BAPF1IH3U1.DTL#ixzz1HMfvUS7S

That's some loyalty...

[El Supremo]

17. I'd estimate a million dollar loyalty.

[Auggie]

20. Federal agent: Bonds' testimony impeded probe

S.F. Chronicle / 3-23-11

The federal drug agent who spearheaded the BALCO steroids case accused Barry Bonds on Tuesday of thwarting his investigation by giving grand jury testimony that was "inconsistent with the facts."

The testimony, which came after Bonds was granted immunity from prosecution for drug crimes, "absolutely" impeded the BALCO probe, (Jeff) Novitzky (Federal Drug Agent) told a jury in San Francisco federal court.

SNIP

During a "covert" phase of (his 2003) investigation, Novitzky said, he began making late-night "trash runs" at BALCO, picking up the company's garbage and sorting through it for evidence.

"For about a period of a year I did this every week in the middle of the night," he said.

FULL STORY: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/03/23/MNPF1IH3U1.DTL

[joeybee12]

21. This is probably why they're going after Barroid...he screwed them over..nt

[Auggie]

22. We see this a lot...

it's the obstruction of justice or perjury charge that really pisses off prosecuters. If Bonds had just confessed to taking steroids this trial would not be happening and he wouldn't be facing serious penalties.

[joeybee12]

23. Same thing with Martha Stewart...nt

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

24. Exhibit A:

[Onceuponalife]

42. Who is this?

Don't recognize this guy at all. I don't think he'll make it in the bigs. Too skinny. He needs to beef up somehow if he ever wants to go yard.

[Auggie]

25. Uh-oh... Bonds admitted using steroids to business manager

Update, 3-23-11 / San Francisco Chronicle

Barry Bonds admitted using steroids in 1999 and began inquiring about the side effects of an injectable steroid called Winstrol, his former business manager testified today.

Steve Hoskins, Bonds' boyhood friend and his business manager until his firing in 2003, said the former Giants outfielder told him to consult with his orthopedic surgeon, Dr. Arthur Ting, about the drug.

SNIP

In 2002, by the batting cage at what was then called Pacific Bell Park, Hoskins said Bonds began complaining that Anderson had refused to give him a steroid injection.

"The conversation started because Greg would not give Barry a shot," Hoskins said. "Barry just said, if Greg wouldn't give him the shot he'd give it to himself. He was just upset that Greg wouldn't do what he wanted him to do."

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/03/23/BA6S1II23M.DTL#ixzz1HT38M4ci

The article reports that Winstrol, a trade name for stanozozol, is a steroid derived from testosterone originally used to treat anemia. Athletes who use it typically are seeking to build up muscle mass while shedding fat.

That's two strikes against Barry today -- both right down the middle, too!

[JonLP24]

26. Damnit

I thought they were going to intentionally walk him today. :D

[Auggie]

27. Steroid expert sets stage for girlfriend testimony

San Francisco Chronicle / 3-25-11

Steroid and human growth hormone abuse can cause acne, sexual dysfunction, an enlarged head and other ailments that prosecutors say afflicted former Giants slugger Barry Bonds, a steroids expert testified Thursday.

Larry Bowers, a scientist with the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency, was the government's third witness in the perjury trial of Bonds, who is accused of lying under oath when he denied using banned drugs from the BALCO steroids lab.

SNIP

SUBHEAD: Ex-girlfriend to testify

Prosecutors told U.S. District Judge Susan Illston that one of their next witnesses will be Kimberly Bell, Bonds' former girlfriend.

Bell has told investigators that in 1999, Bonds admitted to her that he was using steroids. After that, by her account, Bonds' body and psyche underwent dramatic changes: He became significantly more muscular, suffered occasional bouts of impotence and flareups of back acne, and had bursts of violent temper.

MORE: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2011/03/25/MN161IISLD.DTL

[Auggie]

29. Mistress testifies: Strike three

From http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/03/28/MNMR1IKVC3.DTL:

"Barry Bonds' former mistress (Kimberly Bell) testified this morning that the Giants star confessed to her in 1999 that he was using steroids."

SNIP

"Bell testified in a matter-of-fact voice for much of her first hour on the witness stand, describing the course of a relationship that she said began in the parking lot of Candlestick Park in 1994 and ended with a bitter breakup in 2003."

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So how does Bonds' defense counter?

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Later, (Bell) faced intense cross examination from defense lawyer Cristina Arguedas, who said Bell had tried to profit from the broken relationship by posing nude for Playboy and pitching a book, "In the Shadow of a Giant," about Bonds.

What does posing nude for Playboy have to do with the perjury charge?

:wtf:

So we got testimony from the Drug Agent that Bonds "impeded the investigation." Plus testimony from Bond's best friend and his mistress that he admitted taking steroids. These people aren't making this shit up. There's no motive. Strike three.

[trumad]

30. Guilty or Not guilty

Barry Bonds is the Mel Gibson of baseball.

One of the biggest douchebags to ever wear the uniform.

[El Supremo]

31. Testicle Testimony may be rejected

Good headline!

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-bondstrial

[Auggie]

32. A small set-back (no pun intended)...

There's been a lot of testimony as to visual evidence.

The Giambi boys are testifying this afternoon.

[Auggie]

33. Giambi Brothers & former Giant Marvin Benard testified

they received steroids from Bonds' trainer Tuesday. No big deal, except for the nonchalant in way in which they testified -- as if it were okay. :eyes:

That's Jason Giambi and his lesser-known brother Jeremy.

Today, former A's/Yankees player Randy Velarde says he also got banned drugs from Bonds' trainer Greg Anderson. Gee, I think the prosecution has made the case that Anderson was dealing by now.

S.F. Chronicle reporter Gwenn Knapp today tweets "Bonds' former orthopedic surgeon, Dr. Arthur Ting, may testify tomorrow." Ting, according to Knapp, "could be gamebreaker If he confirms prior testimony (from Hoskins, the long-time friend & Bell, the former mistress) that he told Bonds his '99 elbow injury was (caused) from steroids...."

Hoskins and Bell testified a few days ago that Bond's said the elbow growth was caused by steroid use.

Ting -- there's another story. His own kid tested positive for steroids while playing football at USC in 2006 and quit the team. Link here: http://articles.latimes.com/2006/aug/02/sports/sp-uscfb2

In 2005 Ting had to defend "his professional integrity after reports surfaced that he was disciplined twice by the state medical board" and was placed on probation stemming from charges of "unprofessional conduct..." Ting was treating Bonds at the time for an infection on his right knee. LINK: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/05/07/SPGK1CLOLR1.DTL

Other links:

Gwenn Knapp at Twitter: http://twitter.com/gwenknapp

Velarde/Giambi/Benard testimony: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/03/30/BAV31IMJ5R.DTL&tsp=1

[Auggie]

34. Bonds' surgeon contradicts key witness; so who's lying?

San Francisco Chronicle / April 1, 2011

Testimony from March 31st...

...Bonds' orthopedic surgeon (Dr. Arthur Ting) undercut key aspects of the prosecution's case, flatly denying he had ever discussed the slugger's alleged steroid use with his business manager, as prosecutors had claimed.

SNIP

... under questioning from (Bonds') defense lawyer Arguedas, Ting disputed almost every other aspect of Steve Hoskins' (Bond's longtime friend and business manager) account.

The business manager had said he discussed the steroids Winstrol and Deca-Durabolin with Ting. The doctor said that didn't happen.

Hoskins said he had repeatedly phoned Ting at Bonds' instruction to check out other drugs - as many as 50 times. Ting said that didn't happen, either.

Further, Hoskins said that after Bonds underwent elbow surgery, Ting declared that the injury was probably related to steroid use.

That was untrue as well, Ting said. And when Hoskins obtained the information about steroids, Bonds' name wasn't mentioned, Ting said.

LINK: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/03/31/BA1O1INHE9.DTL&tsp=1

SO WHO'S LYING???

[Upton]

35. I watched this last night..

It's an interesting analysis on the case from the guys at Chronicle Live.

http://www.csnbayarea.com/pages/video?PID=KBQNVwQk1Mp_8uOX_PZkebfKX8OOoVRP

[TZ]

36. I would think the doctor is lying

He could lose his medical license if it comes out that he was knowingly giving out illegal drugs (which remember steroids are) to a patient in this way. There is great reason to believe the surgeon has plenty of motivation to be dishonest.

[joeybee12]

37. He also probably has a lot of other famous clients...he screws Bonds...

they drop him...his livelihood is at stake.

[Onceuponalife]

43. So Ting's perjury trial will be next, I'm guessing?

[sinrealwu]

38. San Francisco is the place that a requirement that I long for day and night travels

San Francisco is the place that a requirement that I long for day and night travels, but I have no money!Because all of all of my moneys spend at eve online(eve isk) this game is up!

[trumad]

39. WOW!

Your post rates as one of the all time nonsensical posts ever written on the Nets.

[Onceuponalife]

44. Spambot on DU now?

btw, have tried looking at DU's homepage lately while not signed in?? There's a banner ad for the right wing Heritage Foundation!!

WHAT. THE. FUCK?????

[Iggo]

45. Babel Fish?

:shrug:

[Auggie]

46. Prosecution hopes to wrap case this week; juror ill.

Testimony from the Prosecution's last witness -- an anti-doping expert -- was delayed today due to a juror's illness -- gallstones!

After the anti-doping witness testifies, Bonds' grand jury testimony, fabrications and falsehoods from December 2003 will be read into the record. Then Bond's defense team will get a chance to call witnesses. The list is short and the case could go to the jury this week depending on the status of this one juror.

LINK: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/04/04/sports/s004112D46.DTL

LINK: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/04/04/sports/s090740D20.DTL

[El Supremo]

47. Bonds: Judge bars secret recording from jury

By PAUL ELIAS, Associated Press
Associated Press April 5, 2011 12:01 PM

A federal judge has barred the jury in the Barry Bonds' perjury trial from hearing a newly discovered tape recording prosecutors say bolsters their case that the slugger knowingly took steroids.

U.S. District Judge Susan Illston ruled the recording inadmissible because "it's barely intelligible" and what can be heard is irrelevant.

The tape was a conversation between Bonds' orthopedic surgeon Dr. Arthur Ting and his former business partner, Steve Hoskins. Hoskins secretly recorded the conversation in 2003.

Prosecutors had hoped to use the tape to win back some of the momentum they lost when Ting severely damaged Hoskins' credibility....

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/04/04/sports/s135138D53.DTL&tsp=1

[Auggie]

49. Beat me by two minutes

Damn -- I thought this would be the smoking gun.

[joeybee12]

50. Too bad...but it does prove Ting lied...he said they never talked...

He and Bonds, douches of a feather.

[Upton]

51. Not necessarily

It's my understanding Ting didn't say they never talked..he just said they never talked about Bonds and his steroid use. And the judge said the tape was "mostly inaudible and that the conversation appears to be a one-sided exchange"..

So, who knows if he lied?...but I'd be careful about jumping to conclusions.

If I'm ever charged with anything, I sure wouldn't want the kind of thinking you're exhibiting represented on my jury.

[joeybee12]

52. And if I were an obviously guilty felon, you're the type I'd want on my jury...

and I'd take this judge...if what is on the tape is what she says, she should admit it and let the jury decide who's lying...she didn't rule on any point of law, that it shouldn't be admissable, simply said it was of poor quality...she's bending over backwards for the defense...yup, your criminal hero will probably get off with her help.

[Upton]

53. Actually joey..

outside of a brief, "I told you so" moment, I could care less whether Bonds gets convicted or not..the Giants org. is much healthier without him. It's a witch hunt, always has been, but even if found guilty, Bonds isn't going to be going to prison..

Just out of curiosity, what exactly constitutes an "obviously guilty felon"..

You have heard of the presumption of innocence..haven't you?

Perhaps we should just dispense with the trial and send Bonds straight to the gallows....would that be more to your liking?

Strange how some folks are all for the principle of 'innocent until proven guilty'..until someone they dislike goes on trial..

[El Supremo]

54. I'd sure like Barroid to have to prove his innocence as in some other countries.

He'd be

[JonLP24]

55. I'm an obviously guilty felon

:smoke:

This state anyways.

[Upton]

56. I must be an obviously guilty felon too..

but only sometimes..because in Washington state, you have to possess more than 40 grams, otherwise it's a misdemeanor..So that would make me a part time obviously guilty felon..:smoke:

[JonLP24]

57. Arizona

It is just one seed. Any amount is a felony. First offense you can plead down to a class 6 misdemeanor. Pipes too are a felony.

[TZ]

58. So of course a doctor who nearly lost his license FOR UNETHICAL behavior

Has nothing to hide. Okay, Upton. You can have this guy Ting as your doctor. Greedy unethical docs who think the Hypocratic Oath is irrelevant make the best health care decisions. Unbelievable. You would defend Dubya if he played for the Giants, I think. This guy, as someone who works in the medical field makes me WANT TO PUKE!
So, here's what I have on you...taking illegal drugs knowingly because BASEBALL didn't ban them.-- Okay. Lying about it to the Feds.Okay, again, because of course baseball more important than the rule of law in this country. A doctor betraying all professional and legal oaths by giving out dangerous substances and lying about it under oath..okay again.
I'd suspect you of being an ambulance chasing lawyer. Your ethics seem about par for that bunch of people.

[Auggie]

48. Prosecution rests its case; Bonds may testify in own defense next

Heard via KGO radio -- no link yet.

On edit: This is replacing a dupe post

[El Supremo]

59. The defense rests without calling any witnesses!

:wtf:

One charge dropped.
Closing arguments tomorrow.

[Auggie]

61. Goddammit El...

Beat me again

[El Supremo]

62. Sorry.

I was following the tweets.

[Auggie]

63. Hey,

no apology necessary. I'm glad someone else is following the case as closely.

[madinmaryland]

66. You're a tweeter??

:wtf:

[El Supremo]

67. No.

My farts are full baritones.

[Auggie]

60. THE DEFENSE RESTS / Prosecutors drop one charge against Bonds

April 6th, 2011 / Associated Press

SAN FRANCISCO -- A federal judge has granted prosecutors' request to dismiss one of the charges against Barry Bonds in his federal trial for allegedly lying to a grand jury.

U.S. District Judge Susan Illston approved the request Wednesday morning, which prosecutors made after it became clear the judge was going to rule that they failed to prove a count that charged the home run king with lying when he denied his personal trainer, Greg Anderson, induced him "to take anything before the 2003 season."

Prosecutors argued that charge meant that Bonds would be guilty if found to take have knowingly taken any steroid prior to 2003.

But the judge disagreed, ruling that the charge alleged Bonds willfully used designer steroids dubbed "the cream" or "the clear" before the 2003.

MORE: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=6300104

As for the defense resting (tweets from Gwen Knapp, San Francisco Chronicle reporter):

"Defense just said it will rest without calling any witnesses... No Bonds, no Harvey Shields (ex-trainer) on stand. No one else. Just closing arguments... Verdict could come by end of week -- even on Friday, as Giants open at home. They'll love that... Jury being sent home for day. Closings tomorrow."

LINK: http://twitter.com/gwenknapp

No witnesses—the defense is sure they've won. Prosecution couldn't prove its case. Too many liars.

[Name removed]

64. Deleted message

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[Auggie]

65. Lawyers wrap up closing arguments; jurors start deliberations Friday morning

Source: Tweets from markfwespn, http://twitter.com/markfwespn#

The Judge instructs jurors this must be a unanimous decision, BTW

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This thread is finished. I'm sure there'll be a million posts when the jury renders a verdict. Thanks for participating.

[Auggie]

68. One more post, for the record: WHAT THE JURY WASN'T TOLD

espn.com / April 7th, 2011

SAN FRANCISCO -- The jury deciding the Barry Bonds perjury and obstruction of justice case wasn't provided information that the public has been informed about over the years through other court cases, investigations and documents. A list of that information:

The jailed witness: Greg Anderson, the personal trainer who previously pleaded guilty to distributing steroids to professional baseball players, has spent 14 months in prison for his refusal to testify against Bonds. On the second day of the trial, Anderson once again refused to testify and went back into custody. Because of Anderson's refusal to testify, a stream of evidence was ruled inadmissible, including:

• Results from urine and/or blood tests revealing Bonds tested positive three separate times in 2000 and 2001 for the injectable anabolic steroid methenolone. Two of those tests also showed positive for the steroid nandrolone.

• Documents showing Bonds had elevated testosterone levels consistent with steroid use.

• Calendars with either Bonds' name or initials, purportedly directing Bonds' performance-enhancing drug regimen, including dates and quantities. The drugs included human growth hormone, insulin and the "designer" steroids "the clear" and "the cream."

• Records detailing Bonds' steroid use from 2001 to '03, with references to injectable steroids, HGH and other substances.

MUCH MORE: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/otl/news/story?id=6305281