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abqmufc Donating Member (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 08:30 AM
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English football rules need clarification.

"Football Association director of football development Sir Trevor Brooking concedes the governing body may have to clarify its rules regarding the use of obscene language after Liverpool manager Kenny Dalglish went unpunished on Sunday.

In the wake of the FA's decision to ban Wayne Rooney for two games for swearing into a television camera, the language employed in Premier League games has been closely scrutinised.

After Dalglish appeared to tell Arsene Wenger to "p**s off" as the two managers rowed briefly in the seconds following Sunday's dramatic 1-1 draw, it is reported that the FA were contacted by numerous Manchester United fans demanding that the Liverpool manager was also punished.

However, a statement from the governing body read: "We are quite clear that the context of the Rooney incident was wholly different to the other recent incidents cited."

Brooking, though, admits the FA may have to clarify just what constitutes a swearing offence under its rules."

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http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/909005/sir-trevor-brooking:-fa-swear-rules-need-clarification?cc=5901

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Fuck the Football Association. Rule F6 applies to both players and managers. I guess Wayne Rooney does have a different set of rules than the rest.
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 08:45 AM
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1. I see a difference..
Rooney swore directly into the camera. While Dalgish's comments were meant specifically for Wenger...and, unlike Rooney's remarks, not the viewing audience.

I find it interesting that Man U fans are demanding Daglish be punished for an incident that doesn't even involve them.
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abqmufc Donating Member (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 08:50 AM
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2. You may SEE a difference, but the rule does not!
Edited on Tue Apr-19-11 08:53 AM by abqmufc
B.c the rule states no difference. End of story.

http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/~/media/Files/PDF/TheFA/Rules_Regs/FA_Handbook_2010-11-v1.ashx/FA_Handbook_2010-11-v1.pdf

As for you last jib, it is about fairness, it is about a player getting a 2 match ban (that clearly cost them a shot at the treble) yet every match has the same incident going on.

Fine you think there is a difference, but the letter of the law, states no level of incident nor when it is OK and not OK. The rule says NO offensive or abusive language on the pitch, near the pitch or along the touchline. If you can't grasp that then there is no hope....
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 08:57 AM
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3. The FA sees a difference too..
Edited on Tue Apr-19-11 08:59 AM by Upton
Brooking: "It was totally different . The reaction straight into the camera was the difference”



Edit: this isn't about fairness. It's about Man U supporters sniveling. I realize the FA Cup loss to City was a bit of an embarrassment..but come on.
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abqmufc Donating Member (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 10:40 AM
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4. Just show in the rule book where it defines the difference
Edited on Tue Apr-19-11 10:48 AM by abqmufc
Face it you are a fucking Scousser. So fuck off.

Build a bonfire,
Build a bonfire,
Put the Scousers on the top,
Put the City in the middle,
And we'll burn the fucking lot...
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 11:14 AM
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6. Scousser?...no
Edited on Tue Apr-19-11 11:16 AM by Upton
Gooner..

We hate you Man U, we do,
We hate you Man U, we do,
We hate you Man U, we do,
Ooooooohhhhh!
Man U we hate you...

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abqmufc Donating Member (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 11:36 AM
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7. That is even worse now isn't it? Voyeur Goomers.
Cockney, Scousser same thing...since you made the comment about MUFC supporters now jumping on Danglish to be banned I did make an incorrect assumption. Goomers couldn't even win a Mickey Mouse trophy this year huh......as I said it isn't about Rooney and preserving MUFC, it is about ensuring consistency in the EPL. The rule states, no offensive language. The rule does not state ANYTHING about proximity to camera, nor does the rule say it has to be hear, it can be a violation if you can read the lips. That is a pure fact.

One Arsene Wenger -
There's only one Arsene Wenger,
With a packet of sweets and a cheeky smile,
Wenger is a fuckin' pedophile.

Viera - oh, oh, oh, oh-
Viera - oh, oh, oh, oh-
He gave Giggsy the ball
And Arsenal won fuck all...

Bertie Mee said to Matt Busby
"Have you heard of the North Bank Highbury?"
"No", said Matt,
"You cockney twat,
But I've heard of the Stretford - Enders!"

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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 10:54 AM
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5. The rule book is the rule book.
Edited on Tue Apr-19-11 10:56 AM by HuckleB
But... How often is it used by those in charge of various leagues around the world? It seems like most penalties, fines and suspensions are developed arbitrarily (though sometimes with the thought that there is a difference in the intensity of some acts), regardless of sport or league.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 10:22 PM
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8. I don't have a dog in this fight,
but if the rule doesn't distinguish between the two, neither should the body handing out suspensions. I suspect in the end, they'll leave the rule vague but add something about "intent" so they'll still be able to pick and choose on a case by case basis who gets punished and who doesn't. That's what most sports do in the US.
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