bad caLL

[sniffa]

awfuL caLL, or noncaLL, on the strikeout.

i thought the ruLe (even though the catcher actuaLLy caught the baLL) was, that a runner couLd advance to first on a swing-and-miss that the catcher does not catch, if first base is free.. and Less than 2 outs?

[GOPisEvil]

1. Number of outs is immaterial.

That was a horrid call by the home plate umpire.

[tk2kewl]

2. i am pulling for the sox but i agree

bad call, but only because he pickec it

[sniffa]

10. i'm puLLing for them too

and they won.. but now i feeL dirty. :(

[WhollyHeretic]

3. That last super slow motion they should made it look like the

ball bounced at the last second.

[tk2kewl]

6. looks like it hit the webbing and then bounced into the pocket

[sniffa]

7. doubtfuL

but, even if so, the umpire made the out caLL... and that's why the angeLs came off the fieLd.

pas;kL108738snyk running to first seemed to infLuence the ump.

bad ump. bad ump.

game ovah.

[BeyondGeography]

4. Worst call ever

And the White Sox win as a result...What a scandal.

[kanrok]

8. Plame Gate is a scandal

this is baseball. Heads up play by Pierzynski. Kudos.

[sniffa]

12. heads up

that was a smaht pLay.

it was more a 'taking advantage of' pLay, than cheating.

[kanrok]

13. Pierzynski is a smart ballplayer

[BeyondGeography]

23. The ump called him out TWICE

I'm rooting for the White Sox in this series, but that call will rank right up the with Don Denkinger's screwing of the Cardinals in the 1985 WS.

Hopefully, your team re-learns how to run the basepaths and you win the next three fair and square.

[kanrok]

5. OHHHHH BABYYYYY SOX WIN, SOX WIN!!!!!

YEAH!

[drdtroit]

9. Forever to be tainted n/t

[kanrok]

11. Heads-up play by Pierzynski

Tainted, my ass

[sniffa]

14. i agree

i aLso think that barry bonds' HR records aren't tainted.

[drdtroit]

15. Bad call, did you not see it?

[sniffa]

16. it's the bLack sox

cheat then, cheat now. :yoiks:

[kanrok]

18. FLAME BAIT!!!

LMAO.

[drdtroit]

20. They didn't cheat, just a horrible call

I want the sox to win, but not unearned.

[El Supremo]

30. 1919! 1919! 1919!

[sniffa]

32. pfft

:rofl:

[JVS]

45. Hey, at least we're trying to win now!

:evilgrin:

[Lindsey]

19. How disgusting!!!!!!!

WTF????????????

[GOPisEvil]

17. Oh, I agree on Pierzynski. He was smart.

However, the umpire blew the call.

[kanrok]

21. Okay, I'm a Sox fan...and biased

but the slo-mo loks like it hit the ground. The ump can hear the ball better than we can see it. Pierzynski said he heard it hit the ground. I, for one, believe him. But then again, who gives a shit what I think...SOX WIN, BABY!!!!!

[GOPisEvil]

22. Yeah, you're biased.

But you're a fan, that's allowed.

The catcher who caught the ball would know best of all. If he hadn't caught the ball cleanly, he'd have tagged the batter or thrown to 1st. Plus, the home plate umpire gave the out signal. Even if the ball hit the ground first, the umpire's signal was confusing at best.

[truebrit71]

35. You are absolutely correct...

..if the catcher even had a doubt as to whether he caught the ball or not he would have tagged the runner. As it was, he caught the ball, the umpire gave TWO signals, one for no contact, and the second ringing him up, the batter INITIALLY headed in the direction of the dugout, and then ran back to first.

A terrible call, by a spectacularly fucking useless ump, and the Black Sux are gifted a win...

Let's hope the Black Sux don't throw this series as well...

Oh, and can the Angels get four outs in the bottom of the ninth for their home games too....??

[kanrok]

41. LMFAO!!!

[El Supremo]

24. This Umpire can't hear or see!

He is Hellen Keller!

[KitchenWitch]

33. I am sending him my glasses

and a coupon for a hearing aid.

[drdtroit]

25. Enjoy! It's been a long time for you guys.

[kanrok]

27. Thanks. I am a life-long, long-suffering Sox fan

Tonight was a reverse-Bartman. Angels could not hit Buerhle, and Crede hit Escobar. There is no crying in baseball.

[truebrit71]

36. There are only THREE outs per inning in baseball...

...not FOUR as he Sux were gifted tonight...

[kanrok]

38. There is no crying on baseball

:cry:

[truebrit71]

39. No. But apparently being gifted a win when you can only score one run...

..counts as a Great Victory... :eyes:

[kanrok]

43. Yep.

[JVS]

46. the word is GIVEN! Gift is a noun!

It's been bugging me throughout the thrad

[truebrit71]

47. The phrase is "Gifted", don't be so obtuse...

..oh, and the word is "thread".....

[JVS]

49. Oops, I must not have pushed the "e" key hard enough

You are using words that are complete abominations to the language. Gift is not a verb. Gifted is not a past participle. Gifted has been an adjective until some very bad people decided to use gift as a verb.

[truebrit71]

58. Look! Look! everybody, a Black Sux fan giving me grammar lessons...

...Listen, go back to the DMZ that surrounds the stadium that you can only sell out when the Cubs, the Yanks or the BoSox are in town, and pipe down....A south-sider giving grammar lessons...what ever is next? Republicans giving ethics lessons??

Only three more games to go, and you can crawl back into obscurity along with your piker team...

[JVS]

59. Are you too much of a north side yuppie scum to avoid Newspeak?

After I gifted them with the quarterly report, I impacted the meeting with the announcement that I was going to shift the paradigm to a more pro-active approach.

[rinsd]

53. Or two when the Yanks got screwed on their reverse K....

I don't bitch about calls as the Yankees have had their fair share but to hear this from Angels fans is ridiculous.

Same group who doesn't know how to clap without artificial help and the scoreboard telling them when.

[Spinzonner]

28. Oh yeah, the batter can 'hear' the ball BARELY hit the ground

- which is the very most it could have at all but clearly didnt - with a screaming crowd.

Give me a break.

[kanrok]

29. LMFAO

I guess you played hardball?

[Spinzonner]

31. Yeah, I did

not particularly well, but I did.

How much sound could the ball have made by even just barely touching the dirt and how many decibel would that have been when it reached the batter's ears and compare that to the sound of the crowd reaching his ears.

You're up denial without a clue.

[kanrok]

34. Enough to make a heads-up play

SOX WIN SOX WIN SOX WIN SOX WIN SOX WIN SOX WIN SOX WIN SOX WIN
:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

[HuckleB]

56. It does indeed...

look like it hit the ground. The Angels have no one to blame but themselves.

[kanrok]

26. A Reverse Bartman!

Maybe it's a sign. After all, the Angels could not hit Buerhle.

[truebrit71]

37. ..with the umpire giving them an extra out what does it matter...

...yeah it's a sign alright, you can't win without help from the umpire...

[kanrok]

40. WAHHHHHHHHH!!!!

:cry:

[truebrit71]

42. Typically mature response from a Black Sux fan...

...enjoy your gift while it lasts...

[kanrok]

44. It's gonna last ALL NIGHT BABY!!!

:nopity:

[rinsd]

51. Something the Angels should know about *cough* (nt)

[LSK]

48. no mention of Josh Paul assuming it was an out

He never looked to see the Umps call. He immediately rolled the ball back on the field and ran for the dugout. How many times do I see catcher tag the runner anyways. He should have made sure.

Dumb move by Paul, smart move by AJ, vague call by the Ump.

[Cocoa]

52. yep, good play by AJ, bad play by Paul

but I disagree about the call, it was a bad call, not a vague call.

But that's baseball. :bounce:

[HuckleB]

54. Exactly.

Tag him. Or toss it to first. It's no big deal to make sure in such a situation. Never assume.

[HuskerDU]

50. Worst call since the Merkle game in 1908.

Maybe even worse.

[HuckleB]

57. You don't watch much baseball, do you?

[HuckleB]

55. Some perspective...

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=kreidler_mark&id=2189974

[HuskerDU]

63. That link more or less says that the ump blew it.

At least Denkinger in '85 had the balls to make a bad call and then stand by it. This fool actually makes the right call, then (as your link indicates) gets suckered into making the wrong call.

IMO it was the worst call since the Merkle incident. If the Angels lose the series, that call will become the most infamous since the Merkle game. (Which Keith Olbermann STILL talks about.)

[sniffa]

64. you obviousLy don't watch much basebaLL

whatever the heLL that means. :P

[timber84]

65. what's with the 'L' thing?

[Redneck Socialist]

60. It's so refreshing...

to see a flame war in the Sports Forum that doesn't involve the Red Sox or Yankees.

Terrible call for what it's worth.

[sniffa]

61. sox and yanks is so Last year

have you seen the steeLers' threads? :P

i'm rooting for the white sox, but that caLL was so bad, and i won't admit otherwise.
after the responses from some sox fans though (not just here), i'm rethinking who i root for.

go astros!!

[Redneck Socialist]

62. Asstros!!

Noooo!

Well, maybe. But only to see Clemens lose. :evilgrin: