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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 07:18 AM
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I'm far from being a Raiders fan, but Norv Turner pissed that game....
...away. That last drive on the goal line had to be one of the most unimaginative drives I've ever seen. They didn't even put some WR's in at any point on that drive, and, basically, played out of the same formation every down. Even Randy Moss tried to run out on the field, probably trying to give Norv Turner a hint. Pathetic.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 09:44 AM
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1. Not a Raiders fan either, but it's clear who the problem is
with the team. Kerry Collins had a great game--hope they keep him and dump Turner.
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 01:34 PM
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7. Kerry Collins puts up great numbers, but he makes bad plays at the WORST
times.

Not that the goal line deal was his fault, but he just finds a way to screw up a game.

His release is so slow and he doesn't feel the pressure very well, so he often fumbles the ball (or incomplete) when the defense gets right around him.

He had great numbers, but I remember at least bad 4 plays that probably cost them the game that don't show up in the stats.
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 12:13 PM
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2. what team(s) has Turner coached before?
Redskins?
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 12:33 PM
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3. Yes
And his brother was head coach at the University of Illinois for a while too. Neither man has had a stellar head coaching career.
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imouttahere Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 04:09 PM
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4. Both Turner AND Collins have to go.....
Collins had maybe 2 or 3 good games all year. He's only slightly more successful than Jeff George was for the Raiders. Yes, I know a lot of it has to do with Turner, but the fact is he's not a winning quarterback. At least if they got Culpepper he might be able to get the ball to Moss a lot more often - he did in Minnesota. When your season is already in the crapper, give Tuisasopo a chance to prove himself, otherwise why bother keeping him.
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NJ Democrats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 05:05 PM
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5. They gave Tuisapso a chance
and he LOST to the JETS!!!
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imouttahere Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 02:45 AM
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6. One game is not enough!
especially when the unimaginative Turner is calling the plays!
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