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pres2032 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 05:33 PM
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Poll question: will and should Brett Favre retire soon
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thoughtanarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 05:35 PM
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1. not quite yet
I think he's still got a few more bullets left in him...
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pres2032 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 05:37 PM
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2. but the key is, where are those bullets going?
to his recievers or the opposing team's defense? I have no doubt that he can still throw, but his mentality has to be a concern.
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thoughtanarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 05:45 PM
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3. everyone has a slump
if it becomes a pattern you can always pawn him off to the Bills

:evilgrin:
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progressiveBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 06:29 PM
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8. Well, let's look at the stats
10th in passer rating (NFL)
4th in TDs (NFL)
5th in passing yards (NFL)
28th in INTs (NFL) <-- yeah, that sucks
And the fact that you can almost guarantee that he will play every game of every season until he retires.

He seems pretty solid to me. Maybe no Payton Manning anymore, but if he had a defense this year I think they could have had a chance at at least the NFC title.

Of course, I am biased.
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thoughtanarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 06:47 PM
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12. you're right about the defense though
He'd have a lot more success if he wasn't under so much pressure all the time...
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progressiveBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 06:51 PM
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13. Did you happen to see the v. colts game?
No way could he keep up. You can't expect your QB to get a touchdown EVERY time he gets the ball!
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thoughtanarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 08:38 PM
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17. I caught it yeah
but it's not stored in long term memory.

The pats / dolphins game is burned into my memory though.

(jeebus brady stop trying to make the pass from on your back)

:grr:
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 07:56 PM
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16. Packers haven't had a defense since Reggie and Gilbert left
I think without Favre, the Pack would win about 3 games per year.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 08:39 PM
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18. Exactly.
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pres2032 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 09:46 PM
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20. i definitely agree with that
just like when the niners lost young suddenly and were stuck with Garcia, who of course became very good, but was terrible that season Young went out.
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LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 05:47 PM
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4. He's still a top tier quarterback
Certainly better than at least 2/3 of the starters out there
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ChairOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 06:32 PM
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10. I don't think of top 1/3 as "top tier", but yah, he is top 1/3.... /eom
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MikeG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 05:58 PM
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5. He's been washed up for years. He throws too many picks.
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Sympleesmshn Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 06:07 PM
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6. yeah
He should have gone out with the rest of his "class"(the QBs that came in around his time)... the Steve Young and Jim Kelley crowd. You might argue he is in a younger class, but after the hits he has taken and the concussions he should have been long gone.
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progressiveBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 06:32 PM
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9. Retired at the same time as Kelly?
He was the top QB for a year or so after that. Sorry, but Favre is a little younger than that group you just mentioned.
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Sympleesmshn Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:02 PM
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21. sorry that was just a name I threw out there
to make my point. He has played past his prime and should have left by now. Same for Jerry Rice, who I loved to death, but he needs to end his career sometime.
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progressiveBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 09:56 AM
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22. I think Emmit Smith is a good example
of someone who is past prime.
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Sympleesmshn Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 09:38 PM
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24. yeah
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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 06:15 PM
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7. yes he should
like someone else mentioned, he throws too many interceptions (not that I care being a Vikings fan :D ). Also, maybe John Madden will finally shut up about him if he just goes away. The old blowhard worships Favre to the point that I want to throw up.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 06:33 PM
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11. hellllllllllllllll no..
for cryin' out loud, people. He just had one of his best seasons; check the stats. Should Tom Brady retire?

Player Team G Att Att/G Cmp Pct Yds Yds/G Lng TDs Int Sck SckY Rate
Tom Brady NE 16 474 29.6 288 60.8 3692 230.8 50 28 14 26 162 92.6
Brett Favre GB 16 540 33.8 346 64.1 4088 255.5 79 30 17 12 93 92.4
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 08:43 PM
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19. Tom, be gone!
;)

I dunno where all this stuff is coming from. There are only a select few quarterbacks who could have won ten games with the Green Bay defense this year.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 07:14 PM
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14. He won't but he should.
He just doesn't have it anymore. He hangs his receivers out to dry when he isn't throwing interceptions, his decision making is poor at best and he can't run anymore. He's a shell of the great player he once was and it's time to hang it up. I suspect he'll come back for one more even though the Pack has no shot at the Bowl. They have to rebuild that defense and it's going to take awhile.
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 07:46 PM
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15. Two words: Magic Johnson.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 11:51 PM
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25. Wow! I didn't know that Brett had HIV!
I'd like to see him play one more year. If, by chance, he gets some help from the defence, the Packers should be pretty good. I think he felt as if he needed to do everything this past year and pushed a little too hard.
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 01:30 AM
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26. NO NO NO! Sorry. I meant how Magic came back
after he retired. He was just too old, too slow. Had nothing to do with HIV--he just wasn't fast enough to play anymore, and it tarnished his legacy. I should've been clearer. My bad.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 10:47 AM
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27. LOL! I was just teasing you
Brett had a pretty wild side when he was younger, but he's quite the family man now.

We all want our sports stars to leave right at the right time, before their skills deminish to the point of embarassment, but not before that time. I think Brett's best days are behind him, but most of his problems are from bad decisions. That's something he's struggled with his entire career. Mike Holmgren was able to keep him in line better than any of his other coachs. I think Brett misses that relationship.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 10:42 AM
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23. He should, but for other reasons.
With all the crises that have hit his family in the last couple of years, and now his wife battling breast cancer, he should really consider retiring. He has nothing left to prove, he at least won one championship, he's a lock on the Hall of Fame, etc. And his family needs him, though they will likely tell him they want him to keep playing.
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