NBA fans on ESPN don't mess around.

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They are asking about the Knicks-Nuggets fight. The fans want Carmello and Isaih gone for 10+ games.

Vote: How long should 'Melo and Isiah be suspended?

Your responses in bold text below.


http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/polling?event_id=2642


1) How does this compare to the Pistons-Pacers brawl of 2004?


46.5% Not nearly as bad

22.9% Almost as bad

22.5% Not comparable at all

8.1% About the same


2) What's the biggest way in which it's different from the Pistons-Pacers brawl of 2004, if at all?


63.2% It didn't involve players going into the stands and fighting fans

22.1% It wasn't as violent and frightening overall

11.1% It didn't involve fans going onto the court and fighting players

3.6% It's not different


3) Will this brawl have as much impact on the league's image and policies as the Pistons-Pacers brawl?


71.0% No

29.0% Yes


4) Were George Karl and the Nuggets running up the score intentionally?


52.3% Yes

47.7% No


5) For how many games should Mardy Collins be suspended?


37.5% 1-3

27.4% 4-6

22.0% 10 or more

8.4% 7-9

4.7% 0


6) For how many games should J.R. Smith be suspended?


35.2% 1-3 (a punch requires a minimum one-game suspension)

33.7% 4-6

19.6% 10 or more

11.4% 7-9


7) For how many games should Nate Robinson be suspended?


34.5% 4-6

27.8% 10 or more

21.8% 1-3 (a punch requires a minimum one-game suspension)

15.9% 7-9


8) For how many games should Carmelo Anthony be suspended?


53.9% 10 or more

18.6% 4-6

17.0% 7-9

10.6% 1-3 (a punch requires a minimum one-game suspension)


9) For how many games should Jared Jeffries be suspended?


37.0% 1-3

24.6% 4-6

18.5% 10 or more

10.3% 7-9

9.6% 0


10) If the NBA finds that Isiah Thomas told the Knicks to commit a hard foul, for how many games should Thomas be suspended?


45.1% 10 or more

18.2% 1-3

15.6% 0

14.6% 4-6

6.4% 7-9


Total Votes: 34,584

[Scurrilous]

1. Suspensions total 47 games from Knicks-Nuggets fight

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"NBA scoring leader Carmelo Anthony was suspended for 15 games Monday and six other players were penalized as commissioner David Stern came down hard on both teams after the Nuggets and Knicks brawled at Madison Square Garden.

Nate Robinson and J.R. Smith each got 10 games, and four other players also were suspended. Stern fined each organization $500,000. But there was no separate penalty for Knicks coach Isiah Thomas, who had warned Anthony not to go into the lane before the mayhem started Saturday night."

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"Mardy Collins, whose hard foul on Smith sparked the fighting, was suspended six games and Knicks teammate Jared Jeffries will miss four. Also, the Knicks' Jerome James and Denver's Nene were both penalized one game for leaving the bench area during the chaos.

Ten players were ejected after the fight, which started with 1:15 left in Denver's 123-100 victory. It was the NBA's scariest scene since the brawl between Pacers players and Pistons fans in Detroit two years ago."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2701228

[BOSSHOG]

2. Anyone suspended because of that brawl

should also be suspended for the playoffs. That would hopefully get someone's attention.

[jakefrep]

3. In the Knicks' case...

...I don't think that would be much of a deterrent.

[BOSSHOG]

4. That's true

but if a Coach/Owner knew that the price for such nonsense would be higher then just midseason suspensions there might be a greater effort to curtail such nonsense. And thomas can't even coach his own team and he's giving advice to another team on who to play and when? Fucking joke.

[Bluzmann57]

6. Thomas sucks and always will

That pos singlehandedly destroyed an entire basketball league, the old CBA. We had a team here and while it wasn't NBA level, it was still pretty good basketball. Thomas bought the entire league and stood by and watched it die, while offering no help whatsoever. Screw him. As long as he coaches the Knicks, they will be losers.

[americanstranger]

9. I heard a stat today that blew my mind.

I was listening to Mike & The Mad Dog, and they said that since becoming GM of the Knicks, Thomas has spent $400 million.

400 million dollars in 3 years.

The man is the Halliburton of the NBA. He should be fired for wasting money, besides completely destroying my Knicks.

- as

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5. For the next decade

:evilfrown:

[northzax]

7. of course, on the plus side

people are actually talking about the NBA in December.

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8. A followup poll from ESPN

People are happy.

http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/polling?event_id=2648

1) How do you rate the league's overall reaction to Saturday's brawl?


49.7% About right

26.4% Too soft

23.9% Too harsh


2) Who do you think deserved the toughest penalty?


57.8% Carmelo Anthony

22.0% Isiah Thomas

11.3% Nate Robinson

6.8% Mardy Collins

1.1% J.R. Smith

0.6% George Karl

0.5% Jared Jeffries


3) What do you think of the punishment for Carmelo Anthony?


40.2% About right

34.8% Too harsh

25.0% Too soft


4) What do you think of the punishment for Mardy Collins?


50.8% About right

35.4% Too soft

13.8% Too harsh


5) What do you think of the punishment for Jared Jeffries?


60.8% About right

23.6% Too soft

15.6% Too harsh


6) What do you think of George Karl not drawing a fine of suspension?


75.4% Right call

18.2% Should have been fined

6.3% Should have been suspended


7) What do you think of the punishment for Nate Robinson?


51.6% About right

38.7% Too soft

9.7% Too harsh


8) What do you think of the punishment for J.R. Smith?


58.0% About right

22.4% Too harsh

19.6% Too soft


9) What do you think of Isiah Thomas not drawing a fine or suspension?


54.1% Should have been suspended

27.9% Should have been fined

18.0% Right call


10) In the wake of the brawl and a 9-17 start, should the Knicks fire Thomas?


73.4% Yes

26.6% No


11) Are large monetary fines against franchises likely to deter future incidents like this?


75.7% No

24.3% Yes


12) Are lengthy suspensions like the one given to Anthony likely to deter future incidents like this?


56.7% Yes

43.3% No


Total Votes: 61,856