84 49ers -04 Patriots Superbowl-Who Would Win

[DemocratSinceBirth]

I don't see Bill Bellichek or any coach making a chump out of Joe Montana in a money game...



Plus the team had two 1,000 yard rushers in Wendell Tyler and
Roger Craig...


I forgot all the players now but the secondary had like three or four Pro Bowlers...


I think that was arguably the greatest Superbowl team of all time...

[XNASA]

1. Ahem........

The '85 Bears were the greatest Super Bowl team of all time.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. I Think The 92-93 Cowboys Beat Them...

And I despise the Cowboys as much as I respect talent...


The Cowboy offensive line was scary good and that's where games are won and lost...

[underpants]

7. I didn't even have to read the message box

Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa' BEARS!

Great team but the early Nineties Cowboys were probably the most talented team the NFL has ever seen-from top to bottom

[DemocratSinceBirth]

10. That Offensive Line Was Scary

The Redkins were known for good offensive lines but the Cowboys line was more athletic...

[underpants]

13. See post #11

I was typing it as you posted this. Scary indeed.

[XNASA]

14. Yes, of course. South America's Team.

How could anyone forget them?

The '85 Bears in the playoffs...

NFC Divisional Playoff: won 21 - 0 vs. New York Giants
NFC Championship Game: won 24 - 0 vs. Los Angeles Rams
Super Bowl: won 46 - 10 at New England Patriots

I'm no math genius (now Norman Einstein, he was a math genius), but doesn't that mean the Bears outscored their opponents 91 to 10 in the Playoffs? Has any other team come close to that?

Did I mention that the Bears were 18-1 that year including the playoffs?

I'm sorry, but I remember watching the Bears in '85. It always looked like the other teams were in high school comparatively.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. I Think The Boys Beat A Great Bills Team 52-17 And It Wasn't That Close..

That Bills team had Jim Kelly, Thurman Thomas, Andre Reed, and Bruce Smith...


Who did that Pats team have?


Tony Eason...

[underpants]

16. I wan't trying to disparage Da Bears at all

They were a fantastic team and they did look like they were running down hill on both sides of the ball. A truly great team that exhibited John Wooden's theory of not worrying at all what the other team is going to do just focus on what you are going to do-very positive and foreward thinking.

BTW- (again not to diminish the Super Bowl win) but the Pats imploded in a cocaine scandal. Apparently half the team was completely out of control. South America's team II.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. The Bears Were Great... I'd Put Up The 85 Bears Up There...

I go back to the Cowboys offensive line...


They were awesome...


They took a fair to good back -Emmit Smith and made him other worldly....

[XNASA]

23. The original post stated "Greatest Superbowl Team"......

Not greatest Superbowl performance.

At the time, the Bears 46-10 win over the Pats was the most lopsided SB win. (I would be remiss if I didn't mention that the Bears once beat the poor Redskins 77-0 in an NFL Championship Game).

Then again, in the 80's and early 90's, the NFC Championship Games WAS the real SB. Even so, the '85 Bears shut-out the Rams. It doesn't get more lopsided than that.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

2. I'd Also Put The 92-93 Cowboys Up There...

Once again it would take more than genius to stop that offensive line....


Awesome nucleus-Aikman, Smith, and Irvin behind that behemoth of a line...

[underpants]

11. That O-line was out of this world

A friend of mine, who by no means is a Cowboys fan, mentioned that to me a few years ago. That whole team was probably the most talented from top to bottom the league has ever seen. Thank you Herschel Walker (a great too IMHO).

They had to be talented because Jimmy Johnson stayed with his southern football game plan (Bear Bryant football-SPEED SPEED SPEED) and rejected the much easier blocking angles that the West Coast and counter trey offenses afford you.

A truly great team and had it not been for one bad three minute span against the 49'ers in the NFC championship game in '93 they probably would have won 4 in a row....but that is why they play the games.

[Pacifist Patriot]

3. I have to go with the Patriots.

If my husband ever found out I voted against his darling Pats I think he'd consider that grounds for divorce. ;)

[underpants]

4. Pats-their tackling won them the game yesterday

and the 49'ers counted on yards after the catch-basically they played pitch and catch and got Rice and Taylor into the open field. The Pats are unbelievably technically sound.

BTW- the 89-90 49'ers team was their best IMHO they were firing on all cylinders at that point.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

9. the 89 49ers Lacked The Running Attack Of Craig And Tyler...

That's a feather in Montana's cap that he won a SB with Bill Ring as his running back...

[leeman67]

27. I think you're referring to the '81 Niners

whose backs were Ring and Ricky Patton. The '89 team actually had Roger Craig in his prime and a great blocking & receiving fullback in Tom Rathman. IMO that was the best Niners' team of all time.

[Journeyman]

5. Have to be the Patriots . . . they're 20 years younger. . .

[Jack Rabbit]

8. NINERS!!

Even though Montana may have had to do something in the last two minutes. When he had to, he always did.

[leeman67]

28. except in the '90 playoffs vs. NY

meet Mr. Leonard Marshall. :)

[ExclamationPoint]

12. I know nothing about sports but...

I'm from New England and the Pats rock. GO PATRIOTS! :D

[IrateCitizen]

17. I'd put my money on the 1978 Pittsburgh Steelers

Perhaps the most complete team to ever take the field. Punishing running attack with Franco Harris and Rocky Bleier. Deadly vertical passing game with Terry Bradshaw, Lynn Swann and John Stallworth. As for the defense, it was arguably the best defense ever assembled.

The 1984 SF 49ers were an unbelievable team, but I don't think they could have beaten the 1978 Steelers.

As for the 2004 Patriots, that's a joke. There's far too much parity in the NFL today as compared to back then. The 1978 Steelers roster was comprised entirely of players who had only ever played for the Steelers. They were able to hold on to ALL of their stars. The NFL today is a completely different league than back then.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

19. The Best SB Teams Of All Time In No Particular Order...

72-73 Dolphins

78 Steelers

84 Niners

85 Bears

93 Cowboys


I am probably missing a couple of teams...

[underpants]

20. "Franco Harris" ............."punishing"

Mmmm a bit of a stretch.

They were a great team and they would beat any of the Niners teams but I would take the '85 Bears and early Nineties Cowboys over them. Just one man's opinion.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

21. Franco Harris Was A Great Back And Is A Great Democrat

but he was a finesse runner...

He's nor Bus or Larry Csonka...

[IrateCitizen]

26. The back doesn't make a "punishing" running game...

It's the attitude and committment to "smashmouth" football that creates a punishing running attack. It's the offensive line that creates that attitude probably more than the back himself.

That's what I meant by a "punishing" attack. I fully realize that Harris was much more of a slashing runner than a power back. But it was the attitude of those Steeler teams, one that said, "Whether you want to allow us or not, we're going to run the ball down your throat!" that made the running attack "punishing".

[DemocratSinceBirth]

22. I Don't Know If They Beat The Niners...

Joe Montana was money...

[leeman67]

24. '04 Patriots because in a real head-to-head matchup

the more modern team is always more likely to win. Better athletes and more advanced gameplans. That said, I do think the teams of the 70's (Steelers, Cowboys, Dolphins, Raiders, etc.) and early 80's (49ers, Redskins) were better overall "teams" in how consistent they were, and their depth at each position. They all had very few, if any weaknesses. In the modern era, free agency has weakened the continuity of the teams, and the increased number of teams has thinned the talent pool. The consistent greatness of the Pats over the past few years is remarkable considering this.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

25. To Be Fair One Can Add Today's Training And Preapration To The Equation...

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[Lefty48197]

29. '9ers would win 87-3

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