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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 03:02 PM
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Who has the advantage in snow/wind in Phillie?
Edited on Fri Jan-21-05 03:03 PM by Jersey Devil
I know Atlanta is a "warm weather team", but it seems to me that if it is snowing Sunday in Philadelphia (winter storm warning has been posted for Saturday evening into Sunday) or even if the snow is over by game time and it is windy (as it usually is after a n'oreaster) that the advantage would be Atlanta's due to Vick's tremendous athletic ability as a runner. Sure the Eagles play in the cold all the time, but it hasn't really been cold for any games in the northeast all year with the exception of last weekend and that wasn't really all that bad.

If at game time the temp is in the teens with 20+ mph winds I like Atlanta.

The only other question is: Which team will the fans be throwing snowballs at?
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 03:05 PM
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1. Snow generally favors the team with the best running game.
I'm not sure it will help Vick avoid the rush.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 04:02 PM
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4. Atlanta also has a "BIG back" in TJ Duckett
I don't know if he is a "mudder" though. I think Warrick Dunn can play in any conditions.

http://www.nfl.com/teams/rosters/ATL
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 03:05 PM
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2. Iggles.........n/t
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 03:41 PM
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3. The STEELERS

Peter Diana, Post-Gazette
Runningback Jerome Bettis follows the block of Alan Faneca on Jets cornerback Davis Barrettat in Saturday's game at Heinz Field.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05021/445963.stm
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sportndandy Donating Member (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 04:02 PM
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5. The ground is awful cold and hard
And I'm sure Mike Vick hasn't forgotten how hard Brian Dawkins hits. I don't expect to see him running, except to save his life. This is one game that will not live up to its hype. Eagles fans dancing in the stands by the middle of the fourth quarter. Eagles 29 - Falcons 9
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 04:08 PM
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6. Weather is not a factor in this game.
The Eagles are the better team, period, they should win. The snow is going to be done long before game time so it's irrelevant. Atlanta is going to have to throw to win and they simply cannot do that with any effectiveness. The Eagles are the side here.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 04:23 PM
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7. I'm teling you all you are really underestimating Vick
HE is the reason I think they will win this game. I am not sure who I am rooting for (Probably Atlanta) but he is the best player in the league AND he has the ball in his hand on every down. If you remember Va.Tech vs. Florida State championship game a few years ago FSU was up by 3 or 4 TD's and back came Vick and Tech-he is a great big game player.


I'm just saying.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 04:46 PM
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8. He is NOT the best player in the league.
He's not even in the top 10 Quarterbacks. The guy cannot throw the ball, he cannot read defenses and he cannot get past his first progression. You need to do more than look at Crumpler and then pull it down to run. He's a great athlete, not a great quarterback. We had Michael Vick a long time ago, his name was Randall Cunningham and he was better.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 05:09 PM
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10. He didn't say "best QB" - he said "best player"
and he may be right. He's more running back than QB and in the bad weather I think he can make a big difference. Not that McNabb is any slouch, but he can't be a pure runner like Vick.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 05:19 PM
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11. How can you be the best player if you aren't the best at your position?
They go hand in hand. He's a great runner yes but that's all he does great. There are a hundred players more complete than Vick.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 05:07 PM
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9. weather not a factor? Better look at this
Philadelphia, PA

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...


With 35 mph winds and 17 degree temps at game time no one is throwing the ball.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 05:24 PM
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12. There were 30 MPH winds last week and McNabb threw it fine.
Nice deep balls too. Didn't do much for Culpepper though but then again he's a dome player. The snow will be a non-factor.
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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 06:02 PM
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13. Philly, of course
The Falcons will look like the Colts this weekend.
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