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sixmile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 02:50 PM
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NY Giants Plaxico Burress accidentally shoots self in leg
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8866348/Giants%27-Burress-accidentally-shoots-self-in-leg
The New York Giants wide receiver accidentally shot himself in the leg on Friday night, FOXSports.com has learned, not long after being ruled out of Sunday's game against the Redskins with a hamstring injury.
He spent the night in the hospital and the injuries are not believed to be life-threatening. The team is still trying to gather further information on the incident.

D'oh!
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 02:51 PM
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1. Players that catch the ball are NUTS!
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sixmile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 03:00 PM
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3. Receivers and Tight Ends
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 03:08 PM
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5. I just didn't want to type 'tight ends'.
But Cooley, Shockey, Burris, etc.

Receivers: Most of them too.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 06:30 PM
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19. and split ends...
:hi:
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 02:55 PM
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2. About ten months too late.
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 03:05 PM
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4. Was
he at Toy's-R-Us?
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 03:08 PM
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6. Personal foul, unnecessary roughness. Fifteen yards, still second down.
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 03:19 PM
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7. He usually just shoots off his MOUTH
I remember him from Pittsburgh. He was a mouthy idiot then, too.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 03:20 PM
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8. Collective IQ of the NFL
somewhere around 500.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 03:27 PM
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9. That is REALLY untrue. There are a lot of smart guys playing in the NFL.
How bigoted.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 03:47 PM
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10. Name one, with accomplishments,
Bigot.
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 04:31 PM
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15. Nick Lowery, 7 times All Pro. MPA from Harvard's Kennedy School.
Just because they've chosen a career path that doesn't showcase their intellect, doesn't mean there aren't bright ones out there.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 06:35 PM
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20. I know.
When I was in college at a Big Ten school there was a football player in my Advanced Biology class who was really smart and did well in school without tutoring. Went on to medical school, I believe. But the fb team was awful when I was in college.

There were also three big dumb football players in my anthropology class who were enrolled in it because they thought it was easy, but it wasn't. Lots of them would never have been at the school if it weren't for their athletic skills.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 06:50 PM
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21. The NFL has a MUCH small % of stupid people than college.
Edited on Sat Nov-29-08 06:50 PM by MookieWilson
Athletes have a higher graduation rate than non-athletes.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 07:04 PM
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22. These days that could be because they have financial
support that other students don't. Takes a lot of $ to get a college education. If they're asking more of the athletes academically, that's good. Very few are good enough to get to the NFL and thats a short career anyway.

There was a player at my school who went to play for the Cleveland Browns, then hurt his knee and had to get out. He came back to campus and started a religious group which became a cult... Eventually he went to prison because he told some people to pray instead of getting medical help for their so, who had diabetes and died.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 08:11 PM
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24. They also often bring the same discipline to studies as they do the playing field. nt
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 10:56 AM
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26. Chad Pennington, Harvard grad and qualified for Rhodes scholarship.
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 11:37 AM
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28. I think that's Cal-Berkeley (Golden Bears) and Rhodes finalist.
But yeah, real smart academically.

:thumbsup:
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 10:43 PM
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39. I thought he went to Marshall. nt
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 04:10 PM
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14. The average IQ in the NFL is, well, average.
The Wonderlic IQ test is part of the NFL scouting combine. A score of 20 is considered average.

Here's how NFL players score by position.

Offensive tackles: 26
Centers: 25
Quarterbacks: 24
Guards: 23
Tight Ends: 22
Safeties: 19
Middle linebackers: 19
Cornerbacks: 18
Wide receivers: 17
Fullbacks: 17
Halfbacks: 16

The average scores in other professions:

Chemist: 31
Programmer: 29
Newswriter: 26
Sales: 24
Bank teller: 22
Clerical Worker: 21
Security Guard: 17
Warehouse: 15
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 04:53 PM
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16. I always knew Linemen were smarter.........
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 06:29 PM
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18. I thought the QB was supposed to be the smartest one.
:shrug:
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 08:10 PM
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23. Yes - the offensive linemen are always the smartest on the team. go figure. nt
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sixmile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 03:48 PM
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11. Here we go...
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 03:53 PM
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12. He was in a public place at the time -- either in a club or just outside of it.
Idiot.
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 03:55 PM
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13. Just picked up Hixon for my fantasy squad.
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DeepBlueC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 05:09 PM
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17. what was he doing with a gun in a nightclub?
dumb
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 07:32 PM
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29. Protecting his jewelry he said - dumbass security let him in with gun
Burress arrived at the club with teammates Antonio Pierce and Derrick Ward around midnight, and was allowed to bring his weapon inside after going through a metal detector and being frisked, sources said.

A short time later, as he was being escorted upstairs to the VIP area, the gun became loose in his waistband and a round went off. He was shot through the same injured thigh which had already kept him out of today's 23-7 victory over the Washington Redskins.

Burress refused medical care at the club and left with his teammates, turning up two hours later at New York Hospital, where he spent the next 12 hours. The hospital and club never reported the shooting to the police.

New York Hospital continued to deny that Buress was a patient there.

When asked about the hospital's policy on reporting gunshot victims to the police - as the law requires - spokesman Bryan Dotson said, "I don't know what the policy and protocal is on that."

http://www.nypost.com/seven/11302008/sports/giants/lawyer__burress_will_turn_himself_in_whe_141590.htm

Burress' latest self-inflicted wound came after he was initially turned away from the LQ nightclub in midtown because he was packing heat, police sources said. Burress, 31, who was sporting flashy jewelry and carrying loads of cash, told club management he needed the gun to protect himself, sources said.

The mercurial Giant was waved inside the crowded Latin-themed club on Lexington Ave. about midnight. He downed several drinks, making already jittery security guards more nervous about his weapon.

As Burress was being led into a VIP area, with a drink in his hand, the gun slipped down his pants leg. He reached for the weapon, but fumbled it and it went off, sources said. The bullet tore through Burress' already injured right thigh, police said.

"The bullet went in and out. No bones," Chief Michael Collins, a police spokesman, said.

Pierce, 30, rushed to his bleeding teammate and applied pressure to the wound as Burress screamed in pain amid the hip-hop beats piping through the club, sources said. As he worked to slow the bleeding, Pierce berated Burress for bringing a loaded handgun into a club.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/2008/11/29/2008-11-29_giants_receiver_plaxico_burress_accident.html

Dumbass was carrying without a holster. And I bet he was carrying a semi-auto like a Glock which should never, ever, ever be carried in this way because the trigger is very easy to engage in this manner.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 08:31 AM
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34. DING DING DING! RamboLiberal, you're our grand prize winner!
Edited on Mon Dec-01-08 08:32 AM by rocknation
Dumbass was carrying without a holster...

Sounds familiar...

DU, April 2005: ...(A)n off-duty officer was at a San Antonio auto auction house...when nature called...(He) was lowering his trousers when his pistol fell from his waistband. When (he) fumbled for the falling firearm, it went off -- twice. One of the bullets nicked a bit of floor tile into the leg of a man who was washing his hands nearby..."

Well, if a cop could make that mistake, I suppose a pro athlete could!


rocknation
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 04:04 PM
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35. I guessed right on it being a Glock
Just saw in NYT story it was a Glock 40 caliber. Plaxico now has Glock leg.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 06:14 AM
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25. Never thought anyone would ever be able to out-dumb Gus Frerotte...
Edited on Sun Nov-30-08 06:15 AM by WilliamPitt
...I mean, come on, how could anyone top Gus and the season-ending neck injury he sustained when he head-butted the stadium wall to celebrate a touchdown run? That was gold. Gus scampered across the line for the score, ran through the entire end zone and then out of bounds, lowered his head as he approached the wall, and WHOMP, his season was over.

The dazed oh-fuck-I-fucked-myself-up look on his face as he staggered away from the point of impact cannot be described with words. You had to see it to believe it. Gus scored, and drove his noggin into a wall hard enough that he actually kinda nearly killed himself right there on national TV. He was out the rest of the season with a fucked neck, that game wound up ending in a tie, and I've spent the ten years since firmly believing that nobody would ever be able to out-dumb that one.

Wrong. Gloriously, ridiculously, preposterously wrong. Wrong to the nth. Epic Wrong.

Plaxico Burress is, to me, the distilled essence of pure comedy now. He is the New God Of Dumb. He has completed me with his fathomless idiocy. This is, simply, magically hilarious stuff.

Sorry, Gus.

:)
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 10:44 PM
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40. That 99 yard pass last night sure was pretty....
though most of it was run.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 02:47 PM
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43. You mean "Harris Smith"
Harris Smith is the name Plaxico used at the hospital he went to for treatment for his gunshot wound. The NFL has already banned the sale of all NY Giants football jerseys with the name "Harris Smith" on them, LOL. I can't wait to go to Sunday's game against the Eagles to see how many Giant fans have taken their number 17 Burris jerseys and taped "Smith" over his name on the back.
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 11:34 AM
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27. Methinks Plax is in a domestic dispute that nobody outside his family
is really privy to, not even his Giant teammates or the NFL.

Just speculating. His quirky behavior the past few months indicate something bad is going on in his private life. I just hope to G*d that it does not end in tragedy for anybody.

:shrug:
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 08:19 PM
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31. His wife has applied for 2 temporary PFAs
So yeah, he's got some problems in his private life.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 07:41 PM
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30. The latest is that Plax is looking at a weapons charge
Edited on Sun Nov-30-08 07:44 PM by rocknation
Plaxico Burress plans to turn himself in to police Monday morning in New York City and plead not guilty to criminal possession of a weapon, his lawyer said.

...Tiki Barber reported Sunday night that Giants running back Ahmad Bradshaw was at the scene but was not involved in the shooting incident.

...Giants linebacker Antonio Pierce was interviewed by NFL security at the team’s hotel Saturday...Pierce — who started against Washington — reportedly was present for the latest dramatic turn in a tumultuous season of fines and suspension for Burress...
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/27968336/

On Football Night in America, Barber mentioned the Washington Redskins player who was killed in his home last year, and another pro footballer had been robbed at gunpoint. But if that's supposed to be justification for carrying a firearm, why not do it legally?

:shrug:
rocknation
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 11:20 PM
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33. Burress and most other NFL players have the $$$s
they could afford a bodyguard or two when they go out.

I have no problem if they want to keep a firearm in their home.

If they want to carry get a CCW license. If they can't get a license in the area then hire some bodyguards for a night on the town.

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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 09:00 PM
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32. and
the Giants just keep winning. They don't need him and I doubt he ever plays another game as a Giant.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 08:02 PM
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36. Two complaints have been filed--that he discharged a loaded firearm
and that he had intent to cause someone harm. So the story of the gun falling from his waistband isn't quite true?

:headbang:
rocknation
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 08:17 PM
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37. No I think that's kind of a charge they bring against someone
Edited on Mon Dec-01-08 08:20 PM by RamboLiberal
just for carrying the gun illegaly in NYC. We need a lawyer on this one to explain.

On edit found this:

For now, Giants receiver Plaxico Burress hasn’t been charged for reckless endangerment or any other crime relating to the discharge of a handgun in a public place. Instead, Burress faces two counts under Section 265.03 of the New York Penal Law.

According to documents obtained and posted by The Smoking Gun (the name of the site was arguably never more appropriate), Burress faces one count under Section 265.03(1)(b) and another count under Section 265.03(3).

Section 265.03(1)(b) makes it illegal for a person to possess a loaded firearm “with intent to use the same unlawfully against another.” Section 265.03(3) removes the “intent” requirement, and generally prohibits possession of a loaded firearm outside of a person’s home or place of business.

The first charge will be difficult to establish, since it will require proof beyond a reasonable doubt that Burress intended to use the gun unlawfully against someone else. Burress would say that he intended to use it only in legal and proper self-defense. The second charge will be much easier for the prosecution to prove.

So why add the initial charge? In our view, it’s possible a clever tactic for compelling Burress to take the witness stand in his own defense, since the only way that he can comfortably prove that he had no intent to use the weapon unlawfully against another person would be to explain to the jury why he had the gun in his pants.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/12/01/two-counts-for-burress/
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 08:54 PM
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38. And that's how he gets out of it
Edited on Mon Dec-01-08 09:00 PM by rocknation
He may not have been legally qualified to carry a gun outside his home or office, but his "intentions" were "strictly honorable"--he was just trying to "protect" his jewelery. Furthermore, if the gun fell from his waistband, that was an accident--hardly the stuff of "discharging" it. What self-respecting grand jury is going to send a celebrity to jail based on that? He gets a slap on wrist, and he ends up ducking another bullet (if you'll pardon the expression).

:headbang:
rocknation
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 02:37 AM
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41. He's an idiot. Needs to be put away.
I hope they enforce the law against him.
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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 09:08 AM
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42. As a Patriots fan, I will allow myself a hearty chuckle over this.
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