When Barry Bonds walks, which will be a great day for justice,

[cboy4]

Who is going to apologize?

*****CRICKETS*****

[MrSlayer]

1. I grew up with a kid like you.

[cboy4]

2. Thank you for the compliment!

:pals:

[MrSlayer]

3. Not a problem.

:toast:

[BOSSHOG]

4. Your admitting he's guilty

Thats a good sign Cboy. Only guilty people "walk" IF your dream comes true he will not be the first guilty person to "walk." Its not that uncommon, just like cheating in sports.

[cboy4]

7. From Dictionary.com

f. "To be acquitted: The alleged killer walked."

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/walked

So cheating is not that uncommon in sports huh.

So, how many players on the Phillies cheat?

I mean, you just said it's not that uncommon in sports.

[TZ]

5. and if he is convicted will you apologize?

*crickets*

[cboy4]

6. Of course I wouldn't

There would be an appeal and we'd win that.

But fortunately, it won't get to that point, as the prosecution's case went up in flames yesterday.

:rofl:

[MaineDem]

11. "We"?

Are you his attorney?

[cboy4]

12. I'm part of his DU defense team. Yes.

:o

[madinmaryland]

25. BWAHAHAHAHA!!

:rofl:

[madinmaryland]

8. If Barry Bonds walks free, then justice will have been served. Nothing

more, nothing less.

That only will have shown that he was "found" not guilty of lying to a grand jury. It will say nothing of whether or not he is roider.

[cboy4]

9. Well if he's found not guilty of lying to a grand jury, then

wouldn't that mean he told the truth about not knowingly taking PHD's?

Because that's what he's accused of lying about. Right?

He's accused of lying about whether he knowingly took steroids.

And if he's found not guilty, that means the government failed to prove the allegation.

They should really stop this now before they're humiliated in front of the country.

[PRETZEL]

14. Agreed,

and anyone who knew him from his time in Pittsburgh to the time in San Fran could see that the stuff he was rubbing on was steroid laced.

You don't go from 150lbs. to 225 overnite.

[cboy4]

16. Oh boy, another bitter Pirates fan.

You guys should have ponied up the money to keep him.

Don't blame Barry. Blame your organization for being arguably the worst in professional sports over the past two decades.

[madinmaryland]

18. Bitter?? Not quite.

Horrible, horrible management and ownership. Well, at least the owners are not convicted felons.

[PRETZEL]

19. I'm not bitter about Pittsburgh losing Bonds,

he went where the money was. So have a ton of other players who started their careers in Pittsburgh. The organization does suck and they don't (or can't) spend the money other teams can.

Bonds can claim plausible deniability all he wants. He may not have known exactly what was in the stuff Balko and Anderson were giving him. But at the same time, it seems to me that Bonds also decided knowingly to overlook the physical changes that occurred virtually overnite.

[Upton]

10. If Bonds does walk

there will be some backtracking, hemming and hawing, sniveling and a lot of dubious reasons given for why this supposed "miscarriage" of justice has taken place.....

Bonds is entitled to the same consideration as anybody else...innocent until proven otherwise.

[Bunny]

13. In a court of law, he is presumed innocent until proven guilty.

No such stipulation exists here on DU, and we are free to convict this juicing a-hole all we want.

Signed,

Bunny (who remembers Barry well from his days as a playoff-choking, douchebaggin', nasty-ass Pittsburgh Pirate)

[cboy4]

15. Don't be so bitter. The Pirates shouldn't lose any more

than one hundred games this year.

They're improving.

:hi:

[Bunny]

17. And who would know bitter better than you?

:hi:

[trumad]

29. As opposed to the Giants losing 90 in 2008

5 less than the Pirates.

The gift that keeps on giving.

[ProfessorGAC]

30. You Reallly Don't Understand American Jurisprudence

Do you? That presumption is enforced in court. IN COURT! That's it. People not involved in the case directly are free to presume whatever they wish.

Your defense is meaningless.
GAC

[hughee99]

20. Maybe the people who apologized to OJ will...

In any case, what does it matter? Bonds is on trial for perjury. People aren't mad at him for the perjury, they're pissed about the steroids, which he admitted to taking. He admitted to doing what people are pissed about.

[ticapnews]

22. Barry vows to spend the rest of his days searching for the real roiders

Here's a hint: they're on the 13th green.

Signed,

OJ

[madinmaryland]

23. You owe me a new keyboard!!

:spray:

[MaineDem]

24. LOL

I hope seeing you post again means you're feeling better.

[hughee99]

27. Nice!

:fistbump:

[Onceuponalife]

28. LOL

best post of the day

[dakota_democrat]

21. If you shut up about Bonds, I'll "apologize" pre-emptively.

[BOSSHOG]

26. Better jump on this opportunity cboy!

[flvegan]

31. I don't understand why anyone makes such a big deal about steroids in the first place.

If Bonds walks, great. If he doesn't, why anyone invested this much time in it is beyond me.

[TZ]

32. because its cheating.

I happen not to like cheaters, be they juicers gamblers or other forms of cheating. The one thing I really dislike about the culture of baseball is the whole "if you aren't cheating, you aren't trying" attitude.
I think that the whole Bonds thing wouldn't be such a big deal here if certain posters didn't treat Bonds like some kind of martyr/hero. He's not. He brought all his troubles on himself. I feel exactly the same way about Bonds as I do about McGwire, Rose, Palmeiro, et al.

[flvegan]

33. Why is it cheating?

Is using steroids cheating because they're illegal or because they're a performance enhancer that can give an athlete an advantage another might not have? Or both?

[TZ]

35. both.

I watch baseball to watch pure atheleticism not better playing through chemistry. I'd rather watch a 1-0 game knowing it was played honestly than a 12-10 slugfest that I know is because the players are juiced. Same with football (which I suspect is steroid riddled as well)
I felt the same way about the players that played hopped up on Coke in the eighties as well.

[flvegan]

36. The illegal I can understand.

They are illegal, and considering folks are reaming that Phelps fella for smoking pot, then any user of any drug deserves the same.

But considering that a light cycle of steroids (like what most MLB guys might use) that one would test positive for won't give the same level of performance on the field that a proper year-round cycling of quality creatine (one of the ethyl ester malates), AKG, nitric oxide, synephrine and KET will give, I can't agree. Completely legal, widely used and available and cheap in comparison. Yet, that's not cheating is it? Hell, back in the day Gatorade was a performance enhancer. One could, in a stretch, still consider it one.

Now, I already know that someone is going to make that leap that I'm comparing Gatorade to Winstrol, but I'm not. I'm making the comparison that *some* performance enhancement is okay and some isn't and that doesn't really wash.

[madinmaryland]

34. Walks like this...

[Captain Hilts]

37. Perp walk? nt

[cboy4]

38. There will be no so called perp walk

It's so Republican to root for prosecutors to go after people who aren't a danger to society.

Not only that, the judge isn't going to allow all of the Republican's evidence because it's completely hearsay.