Best Sportsman: Barry Bonds or Cal Ripken. We know

[madinmaryland]

that one didn't use steroids. We also know that both of their fathers were also TRUE sportsmen!

Bobby Bonds and Cal Ripken, Sr.

[TZ]

1. good Maryland guy that Cal Ripken.

:popcorn:

[ReliantJ]

2. Never heard

of the latter. So I say Bonds, James Bonds

[madinmaryland]

8. Are you an Astro fan, Mr. EnRon??

[cboy4]

3. Hahaha...you're a mess

The thing I love is you like to push buttons, but it's easy to get you all rattled and fuming mad.

Everytime you start a new Barry Bonds thread, I chalk up a victory in that regard.

[madinmaryland]

5. Nice dance, upton!

:rofl:

So you going to trash Cal Ripken and Barry Bonds father?

Dipshit!

[cboy4]

7. Yawn.

Let's get back to the issue you keep dodging.

[madinmaryland]

14. Dude! Have you done roids?

[TZ]

9. You think he's rattled and fuming mad?

BWAHAHAHA! Your people skills suck! He's posting these threads to bait you and Upton and you BOTH keep falling for it...Its like watching a kitten bat around a ball of yarn!
:rofl:

[cboy4]

10. My revenge will come with yet another missed playoff

appearance for the Dallas Cowboys this season.

I've already started laughing.

[TZ]

11. Well that might be the one thing we can agree on...

enjoyment of watching the suckitude of the cowgirls...

[madinmaryland]

13. Nice post, Snyder!

:rofl:

[madinmaryland]

12. Dude!

:rofl:

[Upton]

4. How do you know Ripken didn't use?

He played at the height of the steroid era...and not everybody grew big from their use. Many players used them just for their healing properties.

Haven't you ever wondered how he accomplished that amazing consecutive game streak?

[madinmaryland]

6. So you are saying that he did?

:wtf:, cboy!

I never suggested Bobby Bonds did.

[Upton]

15. I'm saying there's evidence to suggest he did

[madinmaryland]

16. Linkety, link, cboy?

[Upton]

17. How about playing

2,632 consecutive games, during the steroid era, up until the age of 38. That suggests, though doesn't prove, that Ripken had a little help. If he was black, no doubt Ripken and his record would have received a little more scrutiny.

[TZ]

18. So Lou Gehrig was on steroids too?

You ought to be careful slinging about baseless accusations like that. There were plenty of games where he was hurting.

[madinmaryland]

20. According to cboy/upton he was.

:shrug:

[Upton]

22. Baseless accusations?

I'm just saying Ripken's record gives one pause....but of course he was baseball's great white hero, better not suggest anything, meanwhile we'll roast Bonds over the coals.

[TZ]

23. yes we know there's tons of evidence proving Ripken was juicing

while there is absolutely none that Bonds did anything..:sarcasm:
You need to stop this racial bullshit. Have you not noticed what they did to McGwire? Or is he secretly a African American?

[madinmaryland]

27. No. It's teh fucking red-headed irish that are polluting everything.

:sarcasm:

[madinmaryland]

25. Show me some proof, cboy, and i'll be happy to roast ripken over teh coals.

:shrug:

[Upton]

28. You were claiming yesterday

that A-Fraud didn't use..who knows what tomorrow will bring.

I'm not claiming Ripken did or didn't use but I am saying that his record is food for thought.

[cboy4]

31. Madinmaryland can't keep track of all of his fibs

He's almost as bad as Cheney.

[madinmaryland]

36. Wow. We've come full circle. You finally called me a liar and Dick Cheney.

As they say, when all else fails, start calling people names.

[cboy4]

49. If you cry, you have to promise to videotape it and post it

on youtube!!

[madinmaryland]

51. Do you take "pride" in being clueless?

:shrug:

[cboy4]

53. You don't even know what youtube is.

lol

[madinmaryland]

58. Hey upton, can you get me my cell phone!

:rofl:

[madinmaryland]

35. Once again, cboy, show me some proof. You are claiming the ripkin did use.

Reread yours and upton's posts!

[madinmaryland]

19. You are asking me to prove a negative? How about you prove Ripken did use?

Step up to the plate and prove it cboy!

[TZ]

21. well he's white

so that means the evidence has been hidden by the man...:eyes:

[cboy4]

29. Whatever you say forkboy

Everyone stand by while TZ alerts

[TZ]

32. Naw ,if I alerted on obviously stupidity

I would never have time to post, especially here.

[cboy4]

47. Welcome back to the sports forum TZ

:bounce:

[Upton]

34. Face it.. if Bonds had set the consecutive game streak

it would be cited by the Bonds haters as further proof that he was juicing....but with Ripken the suggestion brings outrage, why the double standard?

[TZ]

38. wow thats illogical

You have no way of knowing that. Nice projection dude! I'm sorry but there is very little evidence to suggest that Ripken was juicing.
What about McGwire? Is it an accident that he hasn't gotten anywhere near HOF votes? Or that neither Palmeiro or Sosa have gotten any interest despite wanting to play somemore?

[Forkboy]

26. Didn't take long to play that card.

:rofl:

[Condem]

24. Yeah, mad.

Except Cal is a Republican fuck. His favorite author: Ayn Rand. Now, posting on a democratic website, what do you think of that?

[TZ]

30. Hmm is bigotry a liberal value?

I don't bash people (except politicians) based only on their political beliefs. But hey, its okay to hate someone who is different isn't it!

[ReliantJ]

37. Are you cool

with Jeff Kent?

[TZ]

39. I know nothing about Jeff Kent except that he sounds like a jerk

eom.

[Upton]

41. Jeff Kent gave 15k

to the yes on prop 8 campaign....yeah, he's a real jerk.

[madinmaryland]

44. Jeff Kent has always been an asshole. The fact he gave 15K to prop-8 proves that.

Now what does that have to do with this thread, cboy?

[TZ]

46. so its okay to hate anyone who is a repuke because

they MAY have campaigned for prop 8? Is that what you are suggesting. AFAIK, Ripken does NOT get involved in politics.

[Upton]

48. Then what's this?

http://rncnyc2004.blogspot.com/2007/08/cal-ripken-jr-special-envoy-state.html

[madinmaryland]

50. Well, what is it in the link you want me to see?

[Upton]

54. How about this?

Republican Celebrities...Baseball

* Ernie Banks, endorsed President Bush in open letter October 21, 2004. <37>
* Johnny Bench
* Carlos Beltran, endorsed President Bush in open letter October 21, 2004. #15
* Craig Biggio, endorsed President Bush in open letter October 21, 2004. <38>
* Ralph Branca
* George Brett
* Jim Bunning, former baseball player; current United States Senator from Kentucky
* Steve Carlton
* Gary Carter
* Luis Gonzalez, endorsed Senator Jon Kyl (R-AZ) in his 2006 re-election bid. <39>
* Roger Clemens
* Johnny Damon, New York Yankee campaigned for then-presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani.
* Adam Dunn, endorsed President Bush in open letter October 21, 2004. <40>
* Dennis Eckersley
* Bob Feller, endorsed President Bush in open letter October 21, 2004. <41>, <42>
* Rollie Fingers
* Carlton Fisk
* Whitey Ford
* Tom Glavine
* Bo Jackson
* Jeff Kent
* Harmon Killebrew
* Tommy Lasorda, <43>
* Al Leiter
* Don Mattingly
* Mark McGwire
* Dale Murphy
* Mike Piazza
* Cal Ripken, Jr.
* Phil Rizzuto
* Brooks Robinson
* Jackie Robinson, endorsed President Nixon in later years.
* Alex Rodriguez
* Nolan Ryan, endorsed President Bush in open letter October 21, 2004. <44>, <45>
* Curt Schilling
* Ozzie Smith
* Bobby Thomson
* Joe Torre (manager)
* Bobby Valentine
* Todd Walker, endorsed President Bush in open letter October 21, 2004. <46>
* Dave Winfield
* Barry Zito

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pitchka/Republican_Celebrities_Page

[ReliantJ]

56. Thats

alot of jersey to throw in the trash
j/k

[madinmaryland]

65. Nice job, cboy. Way to piss off the entire Sports forum.

mim shakes his head at the moranity of upton/cboy

[Upton]

68. You brought it on yourself

by disputing Condem's assertion that your hero is a Republican.

[hughee99]

84. I checked on Newsmeat

and couldn't find any evidence that he's ever donated to a single politician. His father donated $250 1 time in 1989 to Barbara Kreamer (D-MD 02). If he's a repuke, he's not putting his money where is mouth is.

Incidently...
the only donation I could find from Ozzie Smith was to Jesse Jackson Jr.
the only donations I could find from Dave Winfield was to Obama ($2300)
and I couldn't find any donations for many of them.

the link takes me to a dead page. I know some of these dudes are definitely repukes, but I'm not sure how others got here.

[Onceuponalife]

102. Barry Zito, a repuke? Really?

I wonder how he squares that with his love for NOFX? If Fat Mike found out he might kick Barry's ass the next time he shows up at Fat Wreck Chords.:hide:

I don't believe it. He's into zen and meditation and yoga. He's named after a beatnik. That doesn't sound Republican. I just don't buy it. That must be wrong.

[cboy4]

103. I was shocked the first time I heard about Zito.

No wonder he fuckin sucks on the mound

Unless he wins .. then all is forgiven...

Until he loses the next time

http://www.campaignmoney.com/political/contributions/barry-zito.asp?cycle=04

[Onceuponalife]

108. Well I'll be dad gummed

Well, I still don't believe it. I have my own website to search for celeb political donors....

http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_result.php?last=zito&first=barry&st=

and that turned up nothing. So I need more verification. Besides why would Barry give money to George/Dick '04 primary when they ran unopposed. Don't make sense.

[Onceuponalife]

101. Wonder what baroid thinks about homosexuality

:shrug:

[madinmaryland]

40. Jeff Kent. Just another arrogant prick.

Are you cool with him?

[ReliantJ]

42. hmm

I enjoyed this day.

[madinmaryland]

43. Ok. Jeff Kent is an asshole. What does that have to do with this thread??

[ReliantJ]

45. Barry Bonds

stepped his resume up by choking him out. Hall of Fame status

[cboy4]

55. I loathe Jeff Kent.

What a fuck

:puke:

[madinmaryland]

59. Why the fuck did the Giants bring him in?

He's been an asshole everywhere he's been.

Shit. We agree on something.

:grr:

[cboy4]

61. Hey, I liked him when he was with the Giants .. I didn't even care

that he and Barry hated each other.

He was an awesome second basemen for us .. he just lost his mind after he lied about hurting himself, and then he really lost a lot of points when he went to L-A.

But I don't really give a fuck about a player's political views, as long as he hits 35 homers and drives in 100.

Know what I mean?

[Upton]

64. Kent and Bonds were great together

in the middle of that lineup...it's too bad the bullpen blew the World Series in 2002.

[cboy4]

67. Yea, they were a fuckin terror.

That W.S. still gives me nightmares. :cry:

[ReliantJ]

69. ANGELS FTW!

Oh yeah

[madinmaryland]

33. Do you have a link for that, Condom???

[Condem]

52. Do some fucking homework, mad

Next time you call me Condom, I'll hit you so hard I'll kill your whole family. You being from Maryland SHOULD know what movie that's from. C'mon mad, surprise me.

[madinmaryland]

57. Nice post, Chris Evert!

Shall I get a condom for you??

.. Jim Rome!!

:rofl:

[cboy4]

60. HA .. He's going to overreact and accuse you of really wanting

to kill his family!

Ask him what Netflix is. I bet he has no clue.

[madinmaryland]

63. Hey Upton? Is Netflix the video of Barry Bonds getting busted?

I was scratching my ass with your ipod and missed it.

[cboy4]

66. No, that's the video of the Pirates finishing in last place this

season and the Cowgirls missing the playoffs yet again (I've lost track) next season.

[madinmaryland]

70. Kiddoe! When was the last time the SF/NY Giants won a World Series?

They lost in 2002, 1989, 1963....

** crickets **

1954 When they were still the New York Giants.

[cboy4]

75. Actually, Einstein, the Giants lost to the Yankees in 1962

after Bobby Richardson cheated and caught Willie McCovey's line drive that was headed for a game winning hit.

NOT 1963. :eyes:

But the Giants are the Giants, which is why the retired New York player numbers are mounted at AT&T Park in San Francisco.

By the way, my team has the most wins in the history of Major League Baseball.

My team has the most players in the Hall of Fame (fuck that place).

And my team has 5 World Series rings.

There's no question the Giants will overtake the lame-ass Pirates in ring totals, as we all know Pittsburgh will be lucky to finish better than last place over the next 300 years.

Now what son.

[Upton]

62. Ripken is a Republican

so is A-Fraud for that matter. You know who isn't.....Barry Bonds.

[TZ]

93. Rod Blagojovich is a Democrat too!

We all know that all democrats are good and pure and all repukes are evil trash. Give me a fucking break. I don't give a damn if BB is a democrat or republican.

[Condem]

71. Figured it out yet, mad? Or shall I call you A Fraud?

All talk. Don't know shit.

[madinmaryland]

72. The real question, is have you figured out yet, Jim Rome!

[ReliantJ]

73. ,,,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSmfNxmaQHc

[Condem]

74. Yawwwnnnn. I thought you hadn't.

Look at the time. Hey, enlighten me. Who won the Bud Shootout? I was watching a repeat of last years Daytona 500. Only sport I know which starts with the premier event first. Stupid fucks.

[madinmaryland]

76. Apparently the condom isn't working.

Sorry.

[Condem]

78. Holy shit, mad. You're wit astounds me. You and TZ team up.

The Dimmer Twins.

[TZ]

98. Hey don't lump me in with him

I LOVE Rush the band..Just put a whole bunch o' Rush tunes on my iphone...

[Condem]

104. Sorry ,TZ.

My sincere apologies.

[flvegan]

77. Actually, we don't factually know anything you've stated.

And we never will. It's nice to believe, and I think we should continue to do so.

[madinmaryland]

79. Uhmmm...

Facts in teh sports forum?

:rofl:


cboy and utley prove that!

[Condem]

80. You certainly aren't providing any, kettle

Try again.

[madinmaryland]

81. Thanks, Condom. I'll remember!

[Condem]

82. Fade quietly into the night, mad.

Who fucking won the Bud Shootout???

[madinmaryland]

83. Why are you so concerned about a "bud shoot-out"?

Did you bud lose?

[Condem]

85. Nope, mad. I used to be a sportswriter.

And the sportswriter in me ALWAYS wants to know the result. A habit. Even if I hate the sport. Ask Dan Patrick. He'll tell you the same thing. SOOOOO???

[madinmaryland]

86. Huh?

Is that you. I don't think you are really Keith, so maybe you are Boomer.

:wtf: ever.

[Condem]

87. Ripleys, mad.

Went to school with Dan Patrick. UD. Same frat. Real name Dan Pugh. The last time I saw him we played a game of one-on-one hoops. Sprained my ankle. It's all there in the history books. Look it up.

[madinmaryland]

88. Congrats, Dude! Nice to see a frat boy dropping names on DU.

:shrug:

[Condem]

89. No time to talk, mad.

Over in the Lounge arguing about The Beatles vs. Dylan. MUCH more important than your lame ass. Sorry, man.

[madinmaryland]

90. I see. You're a Rush man!

:rofl:

[Condem]

91. Yes, indeed.

I respect the living shit out of Rush. You don't?

[madinmaryland]

92. Take it easy on the oxycontin, then!

[Condem]

94. Bud Shoot-Out, mad.

I'm still fucking waiting. Do I have to go to ESPN?

[Condem]

95. Harvick. He had help.

[madinmaryland]

97. Harvick?

He was taking steroids?

:wtf:

[madinmaryland]

96. Your buddies on ESPN?? How's Boomer these days?

:shrug:

[TZ]

99. still at it I see...

My kitties woke me up and I decided to see what was happening..:rofl:

[madinmaryland]

100. ..

Check your pm. :hi:

[CreekDog]

105. As an SF Giants fan

I vote for Cal Ripken. :D

[madinmaryland]

106. Cal is an icon around here. Still.

[CreekDog]

107. Bonds is well known as a jerk around here

:eyes:

sad to say he's our county's most famous native.

though we have Tom Brady and Lynn Swann to balance it out.