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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 09:10 PM
Original message
Why is government intimidation okay with the Bonds haters?
Edited on Tue Feb-24-09 09:20 PM by Upton
Last month some 20 IRS and FBI agents raided the Redwood City home of Madeleine Gestas, Greg Anderson’s mother in law. Anderson's attorney Mark Geragos commented...

“It’s such a blatant and transparent attempt to intimidate Greg, it makes you wonder whether you’re living in the Soviet Union.”

This follows an IRS investigation into Anderson's wife..in fact, soon after Bonds was indicted in late 2007, Anderson’s wife, Nicole, received a target letter from federal prosecutors.

In their zeal to get Bonds and needing the testimony of Anderson, the government has resorted to intimidating Anderson's family..but I haven't heard anything negative about the prosecution here in the sports forum, so I ask....why is government intimidation okay with the Bonds haters?

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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 09:35 PM
Response to Original message
1. I'm waiting for the prosecution to raid the homes of Bonds'
mail carrier, landscaper, high school prom date, mechanic, butcher, florist, and any one else that's irrelevant to the "case."

Mother-in-laws, personal shoppers ... the hilarity never ends.

If only it was truly funny as opposed to disgusting and pathetic.
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 09:42 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. Here in the sports forum
you haven't heard a peep from many of the same people who would be condemning such tactics were it to involve anyone other than Bonds....
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 09:52 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. Pete and Repeat!!
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 09:57 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. Does that mean
you think the raid on the home of Anderson's elderly mother in law was somehow justified?
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 09:58 PM
Response to Reply #3
5. Did you notice your good friend had another one of his
cowardly call-out threads locked?

He's really low rent, isn't he madinmaryland.

And what's funny is he brags about me having my ass handed to me, when he had his ass handed to him by the moderator.

I'm surprised he hasn't been banned yet with his constant rule-breaking, which makes his outrage about cheating exceptionally phony.

Oh....hopefully I'm not disturbing you as you go through the standings trying to pick the teams you want to root for in the upcoming month.

:hi:
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 10:42 PM
Response to Reply #5
6. I thought you and he had pulled a Walt Starr.
BTW, I'm watching Jindal's comedy minutes. Isn't it nice that they have been reduced to this!

:hi:

I appreciate your concern about the teams that I root for. That is so cute!
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 10:55 PM
Response to Reply #6
9. I have no idea what that means.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 10:42 PM
Response to Reply #5
7. The flamebait master complaining about rule violations again.
Let's take a sampling of your ass getting handed to you by the mods, shall we? Yes we shall.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=6025390

Flamebait

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=6015771

call out, flamebait

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=5979892

flamebait

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=5957197

flamebait

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=5661656

flamebait

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=5483017

flamebait

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=5479562

flamebait

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=4354792

flamebait

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=6405309

flamebait

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=6340523

flamebait

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=6309830

flamebait

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=6273962

flamebait

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=6149086

flamebait

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=6136591

flamebait, starting a new thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=6506497

divisive

I'm surprised you haven't been banned yet with your constant rule breaking.

:hi:

This one wasn't locked, but it was so funny I have to share...

I'm starting to feel kinda bad for the good Obama

supporters.

All of your hopes and dreams....

I know what it's like to feel bad -- I really like Kucinich (but he dropped out.

I voted for John Edwards in the California Primary, even though he'd dropped out a few days earlier or something.

Yea, Obama sure did draw large crowds at arenas.

So now, it must be devastating to realize how embracing crazy ass religious people can send all of your hard work into the sewer in the blink of a fundie eye.

Wow.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5118516

Yep, the Obama campaign plunged right into the toilet after your post. :rofl:
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 10:53 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. All of that is nonsense ... a majority are from the primary wars
where I was outnumbered by Hillary haters and McClurkin lovers, and thus I was simply posting threads in response.

I have better things to do to link all of your hostile writings.

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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 10:57 PM
Response to Reply #8
10. Sound like Republican. Always an excuse when you do it. Always wrong when others do it.
Good talking to you, Sport!
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 11:01 PM
Response to Reply #10
12. And just like a Republican, you never own up to your many
mistakes.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 11:04 PM
Response to Reply #12
14. ..
:rofl:

The gift that keeps on giving!!

:rofl:
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 11:20 PM
Response to Reply #12
16. You first. I just showed you one. Own up to it.
Edited on Tue Feb-24-09 11:25 PM by Forkboy
You keep complaining about trumad's rule violations ("constant" and "blatant" being your words), yet you clearly have no problem constantly and blatantly breaking them yourself. That in itself isn't any big deal...until you wanted to bust someone's else's chops for breaking the rules. If one looked up hypocrisy in the dictionary it would have this thread's URL. Even now, you complain about me not owning up to my mistakes without owning up to yours. It's like you can't even help yourself anymore. The hypocrisy just oozes out, apparently. Maybe that's someone's else's fault too. Get that checked.

I just linked to more locked threads from you in a 4 month span than I've had here in 8 years. I have broken the rules and I've had many posts deleted and even a handful of threads locked. And every single one of those is no one's fault but my own, including any that have been deleted or locked while having tea with you. No one made me post them. It wasn't because I was "outnumbered" (always the martyr for someone else's cause).

So I take responsibility for my mistakes. You? You fob the blame off on others, or say it's nonsense because it's not recent enough. Always an excuse.

Like I said, sounds Republican to me.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 11:33 PM
Response to Reply #12
20. Here's me starting a thread apologizing to a troll no less. You're in it.
So I guess not only do I own up to my mistakes, you even participate when I do.

The gift that keeps on giving.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=5168473#5168894
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 11:00 PM
Response to Reply #8
11. Nice dance there, honey!
You are a master of flamefests!
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 11:05 PM
Response to Reply #11
15. Hey, I admit I post stuff to push buttons and generate interest and
reaction.

But the examples Forkboy the loser posted are outright lies.

At least I don't start callout threads, unrelated to the sports forum.

I'm not at all surprised you support that pathetic tactic.

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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 11:21 PM
Response to Reply #15
17. Isn't that the definition of flamefests, honey?
Thanks for the smile, honey!
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 11:23 PM
Response to Reply #15
18. Why are they lies? I merely posted the link and reason it was locked.
Edited on Tue Feb-24-09 11:37 PM by Forkboy
I know that you now know that you look like a chump, once more, and that you feel the need to save face, somehow...anyhow...but I dare you to explain how these are lies.

I'll wait.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 02:40 AM
Response to Reply #18
25. They're lies because you posted stuff from the primaries wars.
That whole forum was flames, so you're a dishonest fuck. Aren't you?

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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 03:47 PM
Response to Reply #25
36. LMAO...THAT makes them lies? LMAO...what a maroon.
A lie would be something dishonest. Those posts ARE yours, they ARE locked, and once more you try to excuse your own mistakes. Gee, can't you own up to own mistakes, little boy?

Chump. :rofl:
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 11:24 PM
Response to Reply #15
19. "Hey, I admit I post stuff to push buttons and generate interest and reaction." I.E. trolling..
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 06:15 AM
Response to Reply #19
29. Her'e what dipshit said about his post yesterday in GD,
"purely flame bait post to draw a reaction"

That's his explanation for starting the thread.

The dude{s} can't keep up with his own lies.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 03:50 PM
Response to Reply #29
37. Because he's an attention seeking troll.
It's all the sad sack ever does, and all he CAN do. Biggest poser I've ever seen.

Like his excuse up above for the locks of his I posted? He claims they're lies because they were from the primaries...like the time it happened changes the fact that he broke the rules "constantly" and "blatantly"...like he accused you of doing.

Hypocritical little weed...his mother must have breast fed him through a straw...assuming she even kept him.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 11:03 PM
Response to Reply #8
13. That's some serious douchebaggery, douchebag!
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 12:02 AM
Response to Reply #7
23. One of the greatest posts ever....
You own the little bitch.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 02:41 AM
Response to Reply #23
26. Sure he does
:rofl:
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 03:51 PM
Response to Reply #26
38. What's it feel like to know the only person who believes you is a sockpuppet?
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 08:27 AM
Response to Reply #7
32. And this is why Forkboy is one of my favorite posters!
You rock man! Real evidence and logic..I know thats kinda unheard of here in sports but I love it!
:applause:
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 08:40 AM
Response to Reply #32
33. You're without question one of the most confused posters
I read at DU.

Everything you write is either factually mistaken, either taken out of context and embellished or a lazy rah-rah post.

Isn't that completely true TZ?
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 03:53 PM
Response to Reply #33
39. More of the classic cboy projections.
I know it must hurt being made to look like a complete hypocritical, lying, desperate jagoof...but do try to handle it with a little more class.

:rofl:
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 11:59 PM
Response to Reply #5
22. Silly little girl
You ran to the Mod to lock your thread....

The Mod's aren't going to ban me because of your dumb ass.

Ain't no doubt in my mind that you alerted my thread because you're the biggest candy ass on the net.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 02:36 AM
Response to Reply #22
24. Of course I didn't....we're watched like a hawk now thanks to
TZ who alerted day and night for a week because she couldn't take the heat during a trash-talking bout with me.

And you're specifically watched since you're constantly posting threads ridiculing me about OP's I start in other forums.

Don't blame me.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 06:10 AM
Response to Reply #24
27. Nah---you're an alerting little girl
and stop the BS about the persecution---Forkboy already owned your ass on that.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 07:16 AM
Response to Reply #27
30. Oh please. He just start posting any link he found during a
hysterical search of my impressive work that so many other posters attempted to duplicate.

I couldn't be more proud of my bitch-slapping of the koolaid drinkers during the primaries.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 04:00 PM
Response to Reply #30
41. LMFAO...the gift that keeps on giving...like an STD, only less appealing.
Edited on Wed Feb-25-09 04:05 PM by Forkboy
He just start posting any link he found during a hysterical search..

Yup, it was hysterical. I was laughing every time I found one of your locked threads. Didn't take more than 10 minutes to find all of those.

of my impressive work that so many other posters attempted to duplicate.

Please, stop. My sides can't take much more. :rofl: Think a bit highly of yourself, do you? :rofl:

I couldn't be more proud of my bitch-slapping of the koolaid drinkers during the primaries.

Trolls usually are.

I'm assuming all this means you won't be owning up to your mistakes? :shrug:
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 03:56 PM
Response to Reply #24
40. Don't blame TZ...I alerted on your ass too.
Going to keep doing it too.

:hi:

"Snitch" comment in 3,2,1....

So, to head that little gem off at the pass...tell me cboy...how much time have you served in jail for keeping your mouth shut instead of ratting on someone? Because I suspect you would have lasted 20 seconds where I was before you'd hand your mother over to be tortured at Abu Ghraib to save your own useless hide. So c'mon, tough guy, tell us when you've put your money where your big mouth is?
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 11:51 PM
Response to Original message
21. Is there a link for this?
I see the lawyer's comments. What reason did the feds give for the raid? How do you know it wasn't legitimate and unrelated? Can we get a full picture and not just the opinion of the obviously biased lawyer?
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 10:38 AM
Response to Reply #21
34. You act as if there might be a good reason for 20 federal agents
to raid the home of an elderly woman...amazing. Anyway, here's a couple links:

http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_11573993

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=li-gestasraid012809&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 07:40 PM
Response to Reply #34
42. Being old means your premises is sacrosanct?
And since when is 59 considered elderly?

Federal prosecutors have sent target letters to both Madeleine Gestas and Anderson's wife, Nicole, saying they are considering charging them with tax violations. The 59-year-old Madeleine Gestas has had her share of legal troubles tied to her financial affairs, and faces tens of thousands of dollars in court judgments, according to court records.

She has been sued at least nine times in San Mateo County Superior Court from plaintiffs seeking money from a variety of businesses she has run, including one case in which she has an $80,900 judgment against her, court records show. The state also filed a nearly $10,000 tax lien against her last July, according to public records.


Yeah, this poor, put upon woman is being bothered for no reason at all.

:eyes:
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 07:42 PM
Response to Reply #42
43. Well I'll be.
:rofl:
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 07:56 PM
Response to Reply #42
44. Silly me
Edited on Wed Feb-25-09 08:10 PM by Upton
I didn't realize having a target letter sent to you, which btw only happened because of her relationship to Anderson, or being sued in the past, was justification enough to be raided by 20 federal agents....

Yes you're right, the fact that she's Greg Anderson's mother in law had nothing to do with it.:sarcasm:
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 08:37 PM
Response to Reply #44
45. Why do you think it was only sent to her because of him? What proof of that is there?
She has several outstanding judgments and tax liens. You can't leave them this kind of opening and then claim persecution. While what you say may indeed be true there is certainly enough there legally to claim legitimacy for the raid.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 06:13 AM
Response to Original message
28. Why Is Perjury Okay With Bonds Backers?
Or obstruction of justice?

See how easy that was to turn around your feeble argument?
GAC
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 07:19 AM
Response to Reply #28
31. Perjury? The government has no proof of that.
Obstruction of justice? Nothing there either.

<insert Price is Right loser horn>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A

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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 06:15 AM
Response to Reply #31
47. What A Shock!
That you would continue to make rationalizations for unseemly and potentially criminal behavior while jumping on a bandwagon to condemn similar behavior by someone else.

Convenient, but intellectually lazy. That's not really surprising.
GAC
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 10:43 AM
Response to Reply #28
35. Why don't you try condemning both?
And while the perjury has yet to be proved, there is no question that an estimated 20 federal agents raided the home of Anderson's mother in law..she must be a real threat to society.

I guess government intimidation is okay with you.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 06:14 AM
Response to Reply #35
46. Why Don't You?
Look who's talking. I'm not letting anyone off any hooks. You, however, have consistently rationalized the behavior of those you support.

You just trapped yourself, bright boy.
GAC
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