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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 06:51 PM
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Whatever happened with this poor kid???
Superintendent: Boy reported harassment to school counselor
by Jessica Garcia
Sep 10, 2008
Superintendent Paul Dugan said Wednesday that reports of two rape attacks against an autistic student at Sparks Middle School in 2007 were actually just one incident of sexual assault.

"In my talking with the principal (Andrew Yoxsimer) and the counselor (Susan Nunes), when the boy first came to the counselor on this first incident, there was no indication of any sexual, reportable type of incident shared with the counselor or with the teacher (Nancy Bedrow) and so there was nothing for them to report," Dugan said.

http://www.dailysparkstribune.com/pages/full_story/push?article-Superintendent-+Boy+reported+harassment+to+school+counselor%20&id=219320
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 08:03 PM
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1. Just one.
So that makes it all OK and everything?
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 12:53 AM
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2. no one said anything like that, or inferred it. try reading. it's fundamental.
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 02:27 PM
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9. I was being glib
and obviously too quick. Sorry.

I also have a kid on the spectrum and know how hard it is for him to talk to people. If indeed the assault happened, if he's anything like my kid, he's probably mortified to talk about it, making it harder to ascertain facts at all.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 05:31 PM
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12. all the more reason
the adults should have taken the time and the care to discern what happened, n'est pas?
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 08:00 PM
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16. pardon me for being sharp with you as well. public schools are being
attacked purposefully & systematically & sometimes it's difficult to tell who's honestly discussing an issue & who's just catapulting the propaganda. my apologies if i misjudged you.
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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 10:17 PM
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28. Nope. Try again.
The kid was a notorious tattler.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 05:06 PM
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3. There was a complaint
they're just claiming that he didn't say he was raped the first time. Though why didn't they investigate the first complaint of harassment anyway? I kinda doubt he left that part out - but since he's autistic maybe there was a communication issue with the adults. Why they didn't pursue . . . ????
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 05:11 PM
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4. they did investigate it. what part of "no reportable offense" didn't you get?
if they hadn't investigated, there wouldn't be a *public record* which was used to construct this story.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 05:12 PM
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5. did someone say something?? N/T
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 05:18 PM
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6. devasting critique. i'll go hide now.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 05:25 PM
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7. sorry . . . I can't hear you -
whoever you are - and there's probably a good reason for that. . . Though I can't imagine what exception anyone would have with this posting. I mean, don't we all want to see children protected? Especially from those people who are supposed to be taking care of them?
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 05:34 PM
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8. gee, you put people on ignore, but still reply to them. i don't see the point, myself.
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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 10:19 PM
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29. Yeah, they did. There was no case to prosecute.
Mom and a greedy lawyer decided to go the civil route.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 04:11 PM
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10. Is This Some Kind Of Response to Hannah's Thread?
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 05:30 PM
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11. what was hers about?
I can't see any of hannah's threads. . .

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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 06:25 PM
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I Provided A Link Of Hannah's In My Reply
Check it out.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 08:38 PM
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18. I can't see her threads . . .
capice?
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 10:23 PM
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20. Is She On Your Ignore List?
Maybe that's it.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 12:10 AM
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21. something like that
:)

Don't feel bad, though, she's not alone! lol

Some times it just doesn't pay, ya know?
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 07:36 AM
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23. Well Evidently I'm Not On It Yet
I'm surprised.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 09:35 AM
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24. no,
Edited on Wed Dec-30-09 09:38 AM by mzteris
not yet. :)

There's a difference between a true held belief and just being obnoxious, ornery, and completely close-minded without ever - once - really listening to any type of dissent, ya know? Or those types that just really like to be in-your-face-rude. Not saying that these things apply to that particular individual, but my list - though short - do usually seem to have a few things in common.

Wasting my breath talking to people who absolutely refuse to even consider, the possibility that maybe - just MAYBE - other people's ideas have some degree of merit? Well, life's just too short.

on edit: just like whenever people keep responding knowing full well I can't see - have no desire to see - their responses . . . posture, much?
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 03:16 PM
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26. funny, because i've never seen you consider any evidence that charter schools
aren't the greatest thing since sliced bread. i've just seen you rationalize all criticism.

you put me on ignore when i pointed out that the stats you kept spamming with came from right-wing anti-public school sources.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 06:25 PM
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13. I Provided A Link Of Hannah's In My Reply
Check it out.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 06:54 PM
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14. mine's a response to hers, actually.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 07:08 PM
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15. Oh
It looked like yours was posted first. Sorry, my mistake.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 08:14 PM
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17. no reason to be sorry. i understand why you might have thought so.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 08:41 PM
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19. why no more interest in the abuse of this student
by all the educators?

Am I missing something here? Is it just because *I* posted the story? I mean, really, it's a true story - read the link. Special needs kids need special teachers.

I was just wondering if anyone knew tghe status.

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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 01:44 AM
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22. Why no interest from you in the rapes at charters? Those stories are true, too.
Perhaps there's no interest in this story because there's no way of telling what actually happened from the information given in the article, even though you *pretend* to know, & blame what you *believe* to have happened on the lack of a "special teacher", something you also have no way of knowing.

I've never seen you do anything here but post negative stories about public schools & charter school propaganda.







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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 09:55 AM
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25. You Are Correct
She has admitted having you on her ignore list. I'm next. Maybe this post will do it (hopefully).:) :hi:
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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 10:03 PM
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27. You know this is true, mzteris?
Were you there? Do you personally know the "victim" or his "attacker"? Just because a lawyer files a lawsuit and it's reported in the media doesn't mean it's true.
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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 10:20 PM
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30. Because you don't know what you're talking about.
Edited on Tue Jan-05-10 10:22 PM by tonysam
And definitely NOT about that case.

The lawsuit has been filed, it is in federal court, where it may take 2 to 5 years to resolve, and at least one person named in the case will not cooperate with a crooked, asshole district.
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