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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 01:46 PM
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Charters' funding is the fly in ed reform ointment
Edited on Mon Dec-28-09 01:46 PM by tonysam
It's ironic that, just a week or two before state lawmakers vote on an education reform bill that would lift the cap on charter schools, two applications for charters in Lynn and one in Berkshire County are facing intense community opposition, while two existing charter schools in Springfield and Lowell face shutdowns.

When a sixth-grader at the C.T. Plunkett Elementary School in Adams asked Governor Deval Patrick during a recent visit why public money goes to charter schools, he explained that they are public schools, adding: “There are good ones and not so good ones, just as there are district schools that are good while others are not. We have a funding formula that is not good enough and needs to be fixed so that we’re not taking money away from district schools but supporting education in all different types of schools.’’

Patrick views the reform bill as aimed at “chronically underperforming’’ school districts. He acknowledges that the state lacks the money to support several proposed solutions for the charter school funding quandary.


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Oversight is the big problem with charter schools. Regular public schools have problems with oversight, of course, but at least there is a school board that is held accountable to the public.
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 01:54 PM
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1. In Brighton--the Charter that had 3 separate sex cases--the district finally took over the school.
It was Brighton Collegiate in Colorado. The second case was well publicized and the principle lost his job because his wife, a teacher, was caught during a student retreat with a male student. The principle had not taken appropriate action so he was fired. The wife faced criminal charges. It was a big fat mess. After another recent sexual scandal the public school district finally took over but not before the charter built a brand new building to practice their sex education in. The district will take over the debt on the building. Charter schools are a joke.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 01:56 PM
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2. The goal is the privatization of education.
They have been successfull on health care, education is next. And our President will lead the way.
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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 01:57 PM
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3. I always say that if you love for-profit health care, you will love
privatized education.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 02:00 PM
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4. It's -a-comin'!
sooner than you think. It will arrive dressed as "charter schools" and "Vouchers".
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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 02:01 PM
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5. Most outrageous of all it is a DEMOCRAT
who is spearheading the destruction of a cornerstone of democracy, this despite the fact charters and private schools aren't any better than traditional public schools and are often worse.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 02:03 PM
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6. A corporatist is a corporatist. whether they be red, or blue.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 04:26 PM
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12. it's here.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 02:04 PM
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7. Obama is backing charter schools -- !!!
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 02:18 PM
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8. quelle surprise.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 04:02 PM
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11. Obama is a product of private schools
Punahou is about as elitist as it gets
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 04:32 PM
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13. So am I
That doesn't make either of us anti public education.

There are plenty of other reasons to oppose Obama's education agenda.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 04:50 PM
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14. Wait . . . was your private school financed by taxpayers?
Edited on Mon Dec-28-09 04:50 PM by defendandprotect
Charter schools are --
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 04:53 PM
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15. No it was not
But being a product of a private school education doesn't automatically make one a charter school supporter. That was my point.

My parents put 4 kids through private school and never once voted against a school levy. They also adamantly opposed charter schools.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 04:59 PM
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16. Big difference between private schools and Charter schools . . .
and Obama is making a tremendous mistake for the nation in supporting this --

:)
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 05:10 PM
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17. I agree
I just think it's unfair to assume he supports charters because he went to private schools.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 07:08 PM
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18. This isn't "assumption" . . . Obama is supporting Charter schools -- !!!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 07:12 PM
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19. Again.
It isn't because he attended private schools.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 07:14 PM
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20. Presume what you're saying is clear to you, but ....
Edited on Mon Dec-28-09 07:15 PM by defendandprotect
it's coming in a little fuzzy . . .

I had no idea Obama went to private schools --

However, evidently, Obama is backing Charter schools for America --

Sad, but true.

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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 03:32 PM
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9. Excellent As Usual tony, thanks for posting
:) :fistbump:
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 03:34 PM
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10. Even the 6th grader knows charter schools are bullshit. nt
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