Do you find it easier for private schools to get rid of misbehaving students?

[bluestateguy]

I went to private school from K-3. I always remember that the kids (usually boys) who chronically or violently misbehaved did not last very long at the school. They just disappeared. You would come to school one day and they were just not there anymore. The teachers would never speak of them again, and any traces of the removed students would be removed from the classroom (artwork on the wall, for ex.) almost as if they didn't exist anymore.

Mind you, this was a real New Agey, granola munching liberal Montessori school too.

When I went to public schools, it seemed like the misbehavors never seemed to go away unless they committed repeated or especially violent acts, but even then, only after several rounds of suspensions, detentions, or hearings in front of the school board.

[demosincebirth]

1. In public schools, in Ca., the last resort for trouble makers is continuation school.

[Taitertots]

2. It is the two tiered education system

One elite private schools that only the wealthy can afford. They cherry pick the best students and dump off the losers.

One public school were they HAVE to accept the worst students until their behavior becomes so egregiously criminal they have no choice but to expel them.

[napi21]

4. HEY! I went through 12 years of a Catholic School and we were

FAR from rich! I admit that was a long time ago, but not all private schools are only for the elite & rich.

[Taitertots]

6. Things have changed in the long time since you were in school

How much does 12 years of catholic school cost?
How much does it cost now?


The cost is so great that large portions of the population can't afford it.

[paulsby]

10. not really

i knew a LOT of catholic school kids and few if any were wealthy.

are you actually claiming that catholic schools, which are a subset of private schools of course, cater only to the wealthy?

[Taitertots]

12. How much do they cost every year?

How many people do you know with several thousand extra dollars every year?

[paulsby]

13. many

and we aren't part of the wealthy elite

for pete's sake, you are actually arguing that catholic schhol kids are ther wealthy elite?

seriously?

[Taitertots]

14. Two tiered system punishes the poor to benefit the wealthy

Good for you that your friends are wealthy enough to benefit. Everyone else gets screwed over.


I don't know what you consider wealthy. But 12 years of private school would cost more than my previous HOUSE.

[bluestateguy]

17. That confuses me

How are the poor screwed over by someone spending their own money (not vouchers, mind you) on private schools?

[paulsby]

18. he just can't admit he's wrong

private schools were for the "wealthy elite".

when it was pointed out that lots of catholic school kids as one example are FAR from wealthy, it's "dodge city"

[Taitertots]

20. Why is "wealthy elite" in quotation marks?

I never said they were for the "wealthy elite" so stop hallucinating or lying (which ever it is).

I said the schools were elite and for the wealthy, not for the "wealthy elite".

Your uncorroborated anecdote for 20+ years ago is irrelevant. I guess I think people with thousands and thousand of extra dollars every year are wealthy. I guess I think expensive schools that drop anyone they don't like are elitist.



"Send your children to private school" is the "let them eat cake" of this century.

[Taitertots]

19. You don't see how a two tiered education system screws over the bottom tier?

The individual act is not the problem, the systemic results are. The results are that vast numbers of children will receive an unacceptably inferior education.

Take all the well behaved rich children off to private school, take the children who need the most help and send them to public school. But that doesn't screw them over :sarcasm:

Lets remove any motivation for anyone with money to support public schools or stay in districts where taxes support schools.

Lets have a system that allows only the wealthy access to a descent education.

[Thothmes]

22. Actually it is a 3 tiered system

tier one is the the schools that the Kennedys and the Obamas send their children to.
tier two is the the private schools that us non elite scrimped and saved to send our kids to.
tier three is the public schools.

[napi21]

3. Public schools aren't allowed to toss kids out for misbehavior.

Private schools can, for almost any reason, including misbehavior. There were several postings on DU in the last day or 2 about a kidasssedd out of a Catholic school because his parents were both lesbians and that's against the church teachings.

[femmocrat]

11. Even if they do manage to expel them, we still have to provide an education for them!

Students who are expelled still get homebound teachers or tuition paid to attend another district or cyberschool.

Our tax dollars at work.

[customerserviceguy]

5. Once upon a time

we had something called "reform school" in this country. The bad kids were taken there, and the rest of the kids had a chance to safely get an education, paid for by their parents' taxes. Today, if parents want a safe, effective alternative for their kids, they either have to pay for private education, move to a school district that has few problems and a solid tax base, or hope like hell for a charter school.

[virgogal]

7. Of course it's easier.

[SlingBlade]

8. Depends. Daddy got money to burn then the kid stays

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

9. Yes, Arguably, that's one of the factors why people pay for kid's private schooling.

A private school can more control the learning environment.
Parents know this... it's one reason I plan on sending my kid(s) to a private school.

[FBaggins]

15. In most case? Of course it is.

That's why you should always take comparative test scores (etc) with several grains of salt.

[proud2BlibKansan]

16. Yes

[jody]

21. Depends on the private school. The best in my area immediately expel any student for violating

school rules where expulsion is listed including behavior off campus.