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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 03:34 PM
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The debate over "Investigations in Number, Data, and Space"
Parents Rise Up Against A New Approach to Math

Greg Barlow, an Air Force officer in the defense secretary's office at the Pentagon, was helping his 8-year-old son, Christian, one recent night with a vexing problem: What is 674 plus 249?

The Prince William County third-grader did not stack the numbers and carry digits from one column to the next, the way generations have learned. Applying lessons from his school's new math textbook, "Investigations in Number, Data, and Space," Christian tried breaking the problem into easier-to-digest numbers.
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The debate over "Investigations in Number, Data, and Space," a Pearson School series used in thousands of elementary classrooms, including some in Arlington, Fairfax, Loudoun and Howard counties, is one of the newer fronts in the math wars. Such battles over textbooks and teaching methods are fueled in part by the anxieties of parents who often feel powerless over their children's education, especially in subjects they know.

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The program de-emphasizes memorization and drills and pushes students to use more creative ways to find answers, such as drawing pictures, playing games and using objects. Prince William officials say "Investigations," which cost the county more than $1 million, teaches students why an answer is correct, prepares them for algebraic concepts on the SAT and increases passing rates on state exams.

Washington Post


It seems when there is a generational break in methods like this, it would be helpful to help parents?
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 03:37 PM
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1. actually, I think this is a good method, although
a little old fashioned number stacking wouldn't hurt either. ;)
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 03:42 PM
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2. Hey, I grew up with New Math
Most of these new theories are taught, first, to a select group of students-in my case, a university lab school where you had to be in the top 10% of your class to even take the entrance exam. THEN they teach practically one on one--and almost any method will work that way! New Math was a nightmare and when I started teaching school, I went back to the basics. That being said, when I found kids who couldn't figure the basics out the textbook way, I used some the techniques described here (actually went them one better in creating 100s charts color coded so that kids could see the patterns in multiplication tables-great for right-brained kiddos).

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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 03:45 PM
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3. Help the parents? Sorry, but the only way to add numbers is to actually add them.
My youngest comes home with this stuff all the time. Having to learn this stuff confuses her because she knows arithmetic. So, I learn the estimation methods and teach them to her.

Gratefully, her teacher is being forced to expose the kids to these "creative" methods, but she continues to hammer honest-to-god arithmetic. We bought the flash cards and plowed through addition and subtraction, and we're now on multiplication.

Knowing how to estimate is useful on occasion, but there is no substitute for knowing arithmetic.
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 03:36 PM
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13. "Sorry, but the only way to add numbers is to actually add them."
Okay, but how many ways are there to actually add them?
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:46 PM
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4. Investigations is the most powerful math program I ever taught.
It's inquiry-based math. There's nothing fuzzy about it, but it really does approach math differently than a traditional program does.

It builds a deep, wide foundation of number sense. Traditional math doesn't, to say the least.

With Investigations, students learn many ways to approach or solve the same problem. They learn plenty of mental math strategies. It's true that traditional methods aren't always included.

Guess what? I taught them anyway. In a curriculum designed around finding and using all the ways that make sense and work, traditional methods can be included.

It's true that it doesn't focus on fact memorization. I did that anyway. About 2-3 minutes out of every 90 minute math period; by the time students left 3rd grade they knew all their addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division "facts."

It did take longer than the more usual 45 minutes to an hour a day. Inquiry generally does.

Here are some anecdotes from my experience:

I always hated traditional math programs and wanted something better. In earlier years, I used replacement units, mostly Marilyn Burns' stuff whenever it fit, and loved it. The problem was, there were never enough of them to get rid of the text book entirely. So I got another replacement unit from TERC. It was a stand-alone piece from Investigations. I liked it so much that I used my classroom supply money to purchase a Teacher's manual for the 2nd grade curriculum; no workbooks needed. that year, I was so impressed that I got my boss to buy the 3rd grade for me too, since I was looping with my students.

By the end of 2nd grade, my students had the highest math scores in my school. By the end of 3rd grade, the highest in the district. Every year I taught using Investigations produced the same results. My principal was impressed enough to purchase a unit for every grade level as "replacements," since it wasn't our adopted text, and to encourage teachers to use it. Some did, and their kids excelled. Many teachers were actually intimidated by it, since it didn't fit the way they were used to doing things, and required more depth and breadth than they'd ever experienced.

The biggest problem was that the 4th grade teachers were frustrated, since the students coming from my room already knew how to do everything in the 4th grade math book, and they'd never actually cracked a text book since the workbook they used in 1st grade.

The last year that I taught in that district, my class was visited by a district delegation of school board members and our superintendent. They happened to stop in during math, and were floored by the discussion they heard going on; at that point, I was doing very little. Present them with a challenging problem, let them discuss ways to approach it, then let them try, and come forward with proofs. I only needed to manage the time, and occasionally redirect them with a question or two.

During the five years that I got to work with Investigations, I learned more about the math behind the facts and procedures than I did all the way through college.

Anything that is "different than I did it when I was a kid" is automatically suspect in American communities. It's true that too many parents can't "help" their kids with the math in this program. Too many parents don't have the foundation in number sense to do so.

It's also true that many teachers are too literal. If the TM or the trainer doesn't tell them to teach regrouping or to memorize facts, they figure that they can't, or don't need, to do it.

Finally, much of the biggest protest usually comes from the more conservative members of the community. The "back to basics" folks, to whom basics means the lowest common denominator.

I wish the district my grandson attends used Investigations.

For more on the people who developed Investigations, check out TERC:

http://www.terc.edu/

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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 08:35 PM
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9. We teach science using inquiry (mostly)
and we face resistance from time to time from both parents and kids. Kids want "the answer" and to be spoonfed. Parents, those who care, want their kid to get that A or B whatever it takes. Learning is optional. We tried something different this year -- the kids had to summarize a problem by answering the question "what does this mean?" (For example, 5 grams of whatever will produce 2 grams of something else.) I also hounded them about why they used one ratio instead of another in solving a problem. The kids just want the formula and if they have to chose between two or three, they stumble. Sequential problems? They can't do it. Context-rich problems? Major whining.

I don't know much about Investigations but it sounds awesome. Helping kids develop number sense is important for "life" and one would hope more schools would try to do that. But the loudest voices often win out in the end.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 07:29 PM
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5. Investigations is a wonderful program
I have used it for years now. Best math program I have ever taught.
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:29 PM
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6. Anyone familiar with "Everyday Mathematics"?
Edited on Mon Feb-25-08 11:30 PM by fortyfeetunder
I was wondering how TERC stacks up with Everyday Mathematics...
I was a bit frustrated using The Everyday Mathematics computer games. Some of the games the computer would never let the opponent win...no matter how skilled the child was....
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Progressivism Donating Member (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 01:31 PM
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7. Regarding Everyday Mathematics.
In examining "Everyday Mathematics" texts, I can see the idea behind it. I think the broad class of ideas behind "New New Math," if taught correctly, will help bring about a new generation of people who shall have a greater understanding of Mathematics then the previous ones. I'm afraid "Traditional Math" as it is currently taught, puts too much emphasis on memorization , which mathematics is NOT about.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 10:36 PM
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12. It's working pretty well for us.
We've seen good progress for the first two years.

It has a lot of parent connection materials to show parents how it works. It's much more creative than the "here's how you do long division" rote problem memorization stuff. It introduces matrices very early, for example, which is cool. And it breaks down the barriers between *how* you do math and *learning what math is about*.

I'm enthusiastic about it.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 08:07 PM
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8. I love Investigations
It's a great program. We have used it for over 10 years now. But we do supplement it with other programs that push learning computation facts.
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 01:47 PM
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10. How do these new math methods help with learning higher math operations?
How do these methods help in learning the higher math operations like calculus, trigonometry and differential equations? My kid is using one of these methods in elementary school, and I watch this all too carefully. I learned math with some twist of new math but when it came time for higher math operations, there was no time for "self-discovery"!!!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 06:55 PM
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14. They shouldn't need self-discovery by the time they are in high school
That's the whole idea :)
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 02:05 PM
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11. deleted because I replied to this a long time ago. nt
Edited on Sun May-24-09 02:06 PM by LWolf
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