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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:34 PM
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Did anyone else see the Docu-crap - 2 million minutes?
http://www.2mminutes.com/

Talk about "lies, damned lies and statistics" that's what this documentary is about. It compares two students from each of three countries - India, China and the US. It claims that the education in the US is broken and the other two countries have it right. It never clarifies that these other countries don't educate all their children but it does stress that the schools that are so wonderful in China and India charge the parents tuition.

Granted our system could stand improvement, like foreign language at a younger age, but it isn't beyond help.
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:39 PM
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1. They are different cultures
The way the SE Asians & Indians push their kids would never fly here in the US. That probably plays a role too.

Here in the US, private schools don't do any better than public schools when you exclude the fact that private schools tend to have kids with wealthier parents. They each have benefits over the other, but nothing overwhelming.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/15/education/15report.html?_r=1&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&oref=slogin

Then again if we had proper nutrition from an early age, universal pre-k, taught critical thinking, art, music, foreign languages all at an early age we'd probably greatly increase education.
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leftyclimber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:55 PM
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2. They also don't discuss the teen suicide rates in other countries.
Not countries these people discuss, but Japan and Korea have enormous teen suicide rates because of the pressure in school. I had a fencing coach who moved his family from Korea to the US so his kids didn't have to go through the stress of high school there.

I'm not going to go through life telling kids they don't measure up to other kids, or insisting that parents compare their kids to other kids. Life's too damn short for this crap.
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 06:53 AM
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3. How did the students' "place" in society compare?
Were the students in approximately the same class in their respective societies? If they were, that might eliminate some of the differences in across the countries.
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sugerdady87 Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:43 PM
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4. I agree with trialer
I completely agree with the claims by this video.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 09:14 AM
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5. Great sentence there!!
Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 09:14 AM by proud2Blib
Great reasoning too!!

:sarcasm:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 09:17 AM
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6. Our schools are not what is broken
Our culture is broken. Until we eliminate crime in neighborhoods and provide job opportunities to the unemployed and underemployed, our schools will only be as excellent as the communities they serve.
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