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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 04:01 PM
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Refusing Gays Health Care Unethical Groups Tell Court
http://www.365gay.com/newscon05/07/072705calMed.htm

Community and health care groups are countering assertions by the California Medical Association and the Christian Medical and Dental Associations that doctors and medical clinics have the moral right to refuse treatment to gays and lesbians.

In a friend-of-the-court brief to the California Court of Appeal in San Diego a wide array of groups say it is unethical to pick and choose who receives medical services.

The case before the court involves fertility doctors who refused on religious grounds to inseminate their patient, Guadelupe "Lupita" Benitez, who is a lesbian.

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ladeuxiemevoiture Donating Member (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 04:06 PM
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1. OH, gosh - what's next with these wackos?
Hasn't anyone heard of the Hippocratic Oath? :mad:
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 04:08 PM
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3. Oh, they didn't take the Hippocratic Oath --
they took the 'Hypocritic Oath.'
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jilln Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 04:07 PM
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2. I'm ashamed that this happens in my country
What can I say.
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 04:09 PM
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4. It's amazing that a Christian group could refuse care.
How do they call themselves Christian's and not give someone proper medical attention. Regardless of their sexual orientation. They should have their license revoked. It's like the pharmacists who refuse to disperse contraceptions or the morning after pill. "Hey, don't want to disperse medical advice/prescriptions, go get another job."
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 09:16 AM
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11. You'd think, wouldn't you
I work for a Catholic university. My health plan does not cover contraceptives, abortion, sterilizations, or fertility treatments. I could have an ectopic pregnancy and the health plan would deny the claim for payment. If you pay for your fertility treatments out of pocket and then require selective reduction because you're going to have a litter, the plan won't pay for that.

And yet, the medical school motto is "Cura personalis", or "care for the entire person. How obvious that they don't consider women to actually be persons.
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ladeuxiemevoiture Donating Member (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 09:40 AM
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12. No, they don't. Women are sex objects. That's their function,
Edited on Fri Jul-29-05 09:41 AM by ladeuxiemevoiture
according to Catholic dogma, or at the least, standard operating practice. "Natural law," also. :eyes:
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Nightjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 04:14 PM
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5. History will paint a dark picture of these people
This is absolutely outrageous.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 04:21 PM
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6. This is utter and complete bullshit.
:grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:
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musical_soul Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:14 PM
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7. What's moral about refusing medical treatment?
I don't get it.
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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 01:05 AM
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8. Hhhhmmmmmm . . .
.

Should state's be allowed to grant licenses to those who discriminate against individuals due to their sexual orientation? e.g., M.D.'s license, pharmacist licenses, attorney's licenses, R.N.'s licenses, plumber's licenses, electrician's licenses, mortician's licenses, D.M.D.'s licenses?

Hhhhhmmmmm?



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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:10 AM
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9. Okay, I'm going to put "Christians" on notice here
If you ever deny me care in a hospital or dentist's office because I'm gay, you will be shortly requiring some of each of those same services.

That is all.
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kbm8795 Donating Member (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:04 PM
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10. Excuse me. . .but since when do these people
get a free pass just because they name their organization "christian?" Until they show me some evidence of "christian" compassion, I think it's past time we start accusing them of being a religious cult that requires the use of gay and lesbian citizens as human sacrifices.

There's nothing "christian" about denying someone medical or dental service based on their pretend religious beliefs.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 10:46 AM
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13. article in today's SF Chronicle
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/07/29/MNGREDVVKI1.DTL

A Southern California lesbian who sued her doctors for discrimination after they refused to artificially inseminate her is now fighting both them and the state's largest medical association over whether doctors should have the right to refuse treatment on religious grounds.

The California Medical Association has taken the position that, in addition to being able to choose which procedures they perform, doctors should in some situations be able to choose whom they treat.

A trial court judge ruled in 2003 that the doctors attending to Guadalupe Benitez of Oceanside (San Diego County) could claim a religious exemption from performing the procedure on her and that decision is now on appeal before a San Diego appellate court.

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