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SacredCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 08:16 AM
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"God has a better way...."
Sorry if this has been posted before, but what the fuck is this shit? It's like hypocrisy gone haywire! Do us a favor Mr. Brown- Quit saying that you renounce and repudiate the "hateful and destructive attitude" of homophobia because it's pretty clear from the rest of your statement that you embrace it.

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Dr.Michael Brown Director of the Coalition of Conscience.

Statement to the media complete text, July 25,2009

"We are here today to reach out and resist –– to reach out to the gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender community with compassion, as neighbors and friends and fellow-workers, and to declare God’s great love for GLBT people. And we are here to resist the gay activist agenda and to send a message to the nation.

As followers of Jesus, we first confess our own sins –– our lack of ardent love for homosexual men and women, our lack of compassion for their struggles, our adding to their sense of rejection through insensitive words and deeds.

We acknowledge the fact that homophobia is alive and well in some churches, and we renounce and repudiate that hateful and destructive attitude.

Our love also compels us to speak the truth, and we do not believe that all sexual orientations should be celebrated.

We do not celebrate the fact that some people believe they are women trapped in men’s bodies;

We do not celebrate the fact that two men or two women cannot reproduce their own unique offspring and that same-sex families guarantee that a child will never have either a mother or a father;

We do not celebrate the fact that some people choose to surgically mutilate their God-given organs and must take hormones for the rest of their lives just to be at peace with themselves;

We do not celebrate the sexual confusion that exists in many young people today, to the point that they can only identify themselves “as genderqueer”;

We do not celebrate the pain and brokenness that exists in the lives of many of those attending Pride Charlotte today –– completely apart from societal rejection –– and we proclaim to our GLBT friends that God has a better way, that there is a place of wholeness and transformation to be found in Jesus. And we are here for the long-term to help them on that journey.

And because of our sense of justice and rightness, we take strong exception to the gay activist agenda. We watch its trajectory, we see where it has gone and where it is going, and we say, “It stops here in Charlotte.”

Since gay pride events have been rallying points for GLBT activism, we take our stand here today and declare:

We don’t believe that elementary school children should be taught to find their “inner-trannie” (meaning their inner transgender identity) as advocated in GLSEN’s training materials.

We don’t believe that it is in the best interest of our society to seek to eradicate gender or to multiply it exponentially.

We completely reject the Los Angeles Unified School District Reference Guide when it states that Gender identity “refers to one’s understanding, interests, outlook, and feelings about whether one is female or male, or both, or neither, regardless of one’s biological sex.”

We don’t believe it is good or right for four-year-old children to have their preschool teachers read them books like One Dad, Two Dads, Brown Dad, Blue Dads or to be lined up by sneaker color rather than gender so they don’t feel “boxed in.”

We don’t believe in “Queering Elementary Education,” to use the title of a well-known book.

We believe it is outrageous when an African American woman is fired from her university position of vice-president of human resources because she writes an editorial objecting to the concept that sexual orientation is equivalent to skin color.

We believe it is outrageous for the media to cover up the gay identity of a sexual predator who repeatedly raped his adopted, five-year-old African American son and offered him for sex through the internet – for fear of making homosexual couples look bad.

We believe it is outrageous for the mayor of San Francisco to welcome warmly a public fair featuring nude, sado-masochistic displays, and to do so in the name of “diversity.”

And what does it say of our country today when our president, in the White House, could say “We are very proud of you” to a man who leads an organization devoted to making harder core pornography more readily available and who says that bestiality is fine as long as the animal doesn’t mind?

We don’t believe in fining a Christian photographer in New Mexico for politely declining to shoot a lesbian commitment ceremony, or punishing an Anglican bishop in England for choosing not to hire an openly gay youth worker, or for putting a lifetime ban on Christian leaders in Canada, forbidding them from expressing the biblical teaching on homosexual practice and threatening them with imprisonment.

We don’t believe in laws that could jail the owner of a Christian bookstore for choosing not to hire a cross-dresser as a receptionist.

We don’t believe in a Hate Crimes bill that is so flawed that even the ACLU is concerned that it could restrict freedom of speech.

We don’t believe it is right for major Charlotte-based companies like Bank of America and Wachovia and Duke Energy to pour tens of thousands of dollars into a radical organization like the Human Rights Campaign, an organization that has stated that supporters of male-female marriage are “right wing extremists” and that mandates that businesses must have special bathroom accommodations for employees undergoing sex-change surgery.

We are saddened by the fact that some of those who came out of the closet forty years now are now trying to put conservative Christians in the closet.

We don’t believe in tampering with the foundations of human society –– male-female marriage and family –– and creating a new institution previously unknown in human history.

We utterly reject the new theologies that advocate “Queering Christ” and writing “Queer Commentaries” on the Bible, and we say to Charlotte and the nation, “By God’s grace, it stops here.”

So, we say “Enough is enough” to the destructive goals of gay activism, and we say to the GLBT community, “Jesus loves you and God has a better way!”'


http://www.godhasabetterway.com/
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 08:21 AM
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1. Beware of the ones who look normal and sound reasonable- they are the most dangerous. nt
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Betty Karlson Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 08:25 AM
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2. God created the GLBT people in the first place.
Why does this man fail to appreciate the richness and variety of God's work?

What he does is blasphemous to my eyes. And while I try to resist it, the suspicion creeps over me that he may not even mean all he says.
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SacredCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 08:30 AM
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4. If living my life as a straight man was God's better plan....
I'd still be married. But the fact is that my life was in turmoil, and I didn't understand why until we split up and I came to terms with who I was. From that point, everything else fell into place for me. Despite now being part of a group that is constantly denigrated, my life is INFINITELY better.

Had I stayed married, I don't think I'd be alive right now.
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Betty Karlson Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 11:10 AM
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6. You know, I think these "better plan" people are messing with the sanctity of marriage!
Forcing an unnatural union of man and woman on people that God created gay is tantamount to encouraging divorce. They must be stopped before they wreck the homes of God's children!
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Eryemil Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 10:54 PM
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23. I was created by my mother's cunt and my father's cock tvm. n|t
Speak for yourself if you need to feel special.
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 10:06 AM
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25. God created nature and science too, yet the religious zealouts
forced Galileo to recant his 'heretical' ideas that the earth may not be the center of the universe and threatened to do horrible things to him if he didn't. And there are plenty today who think Charles Darwin is burning in hell for bringing evolution to light.

That's just what closed-minded zealots do.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 08:28 AM
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3. He speaks for the whole 'faith community' unless they speak out
against him, which they will not and do not. Bigotry is a sacrament to them. It is celebrated. It is given high dollar and high status, and faces no resistance.
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SacredCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 09:35 AM
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5. I play guitar for a Methodist church choir...
They know I'm gay, and the pastor has no problem with it. He does, however, have a problem with the "God told me to hate you" and other assorted loose interpretations of the bible.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 11:41 AM
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7. Why do people insist on looking at shit like this?
It's just going to make you angry, and the true believers are never going to be swayed by things like logic.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 11:59 AM
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8. Well don't let it bother your beautiful mind. n/t
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 12:02 PM
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9. Nice sarcasm, but it's an important question.
Beating your head against stupid bullshit you can't change tends to cause people to burn out faster than they might otherwise, which hurts activism.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 12:09 PM
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10. In your opinion.
Doesn't hurt mine at all. :hi:
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TommyO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 02:39 PM
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14. Ignoring stuff like this doesn't make it go away
Bigotry like this needs to be met head-on and challenged.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 03:19 PM
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18. There's a pretty famous historian named Deborah Lipstadt...
She's the author of a book called "Denying the Holocaust," which is all about the tactics used by white supremacist and neo-Nazi groups to sow misinformation about and minimize the death camps and executions. Often radio shows will want to have her on as a guest, along with a holocaust denier, in order for her to disassemble them. She always refuses. In her opinion, engaging in the conversation--even if it's a foregone conclusion that her points win--makes it a "debate," which gives the other side stature and validates their message.

There are times to argue, and there are times when arguing gives your opponent a dignity that they don't deserve. When you're talking about drooling, insane wingnuttery like what's on the OP, it's the latter. They do a fine job proving themselves as kooks without us getting dragged through the mud fighting them. Better to concentrate on the middle 30% who aren't on our side yet but aren't insane either.
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 05:50 PM
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19. Uh, because it's important to know what jerks like this are doing?
First they came for.....
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 06:59 PM
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20. It's important to be angry at this shit.
It's important to remember who does this kind of thing so we don't end up with Blasphemy laws like Ireland or the crime-not-to-respect-religion rules that the UN apparently considered before rejecting.

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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 07:51 PM
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21. You're right.
If we ignore the whackos they'll just go away and a new Age of Enlightenment will be ushered in. If only we'd thought to do that when Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell and his ilk were coming to power everything would have been fine. We would have had marriage equality across the nation, no DADT or DOMA, etc. Just ignore them and think happy thoughts. :sarcasm:
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 01:22 PM
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11. This is supposed to sound nicer and more polysyllabic than the Phelpsbots' signs...
...but the content is similar. :banghead:

This manifesto could have been shortened to "God loves f_gs."
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SacredCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 02:00 PM
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12. More like...
"God Loves F_gs*"


















*but that doesn't mean we want them treated equally under US law. That would just be plain wrong.
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Tyo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 02:18 PM
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13. This is 2009
I don't understand why I should have to worry about how people interpret a book of ancient tribal myths, half-baked history, and questionable biographies of a man who chances are didn't exist and why I need to be concerned about how they apply it all to me but obviously I do.
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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 02:51 PM
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15. My write-ups (one of which elicited a reply from Michael Brown)
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 03:10 PM
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16. I thought that name sounded familiar.
I'm getting senile, I read your blog post about this last week. D'oh! I love Lavender Newswire.
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SacredCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 03:12 PM
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17. Fantastic! Thanks for adding this!
:yourock:
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 08:13 PM
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22. Love this... "some people choose to surgically mutilate their God-given organs "
Circumcision anyone? Judeo-Christian anti-sex/masturbation tradition steeped in "covenants"... but that's different.:eyes:
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Eryemil Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 10:55 PM
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24. Hahaha. I think I love you. n|t
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 11:41 AM
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26. i had an appendectomy, god given organs (puke) was going to kill me
if i didnt have it removed
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