Marriage Equality Act fails 24-38.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

http://twitter.com/NYSenate

[Taverner]

1. Fuck

[TheWraith]

3. That's pretty much exactly what I said. nt

[joeybee12]

2. What!!!

I assumed it had overwhelming support! Bastards!!!!

[TheWraith]

5. The state senate is a pure clusterfuck.

It's gerrymandered in the favor of Republicans, so it's split 32/30 in the Dems favor, and 8 Dems crossed the line to vote with the Repubs. We've got a bunch of dirty Dems there, including one of the no votes who was recently on trial for slashing his girlfriend in the face with a broken glass.

[joeybee12]

17. Of course he attacked his girlfriend...the specter of gay marriage did it!

Assholes!!!!

[tomg]

4. I watched it on live feed.

Target every dem who voted against it. I hate the Republicans, but maybe the Dems need a purity test of there own to get funding. There should be some core issues that every Democrat should stand for, and marriage equality, a woman's right to choose, and universal health care should be three at the top.

[marmar]

6. More backward steps for equality in America.....

:thumbsdown:

[AndyA]

7. Discrimination is alive and well in the United States of America.

All are not created equal.

All do not have equal rights.

Equality does not exist. It is a lie.

NEXT: Outlaw divorce. Seriously. If marriage is truly so sacred that others must be discriminated against to protect it, there should be NO PROVISION WHATSOEVER to get out of it! One man, one woman...FOREVER. Even if she gets fat, he goes bald and passes gas all the time, and they can't stand each other. It's forever. One chance is all you get, and you're stuck.

I wonder what that would do to the marriage rate in this country? :shrug:

[racaulk]

8. I'm so sorry, Pri.

This absolutely breaks my heart. I was really hoping that the NY Senate would do the right thing today. I can't believe eight Democrats voted "No" on the bill.

Bastards. Every one of them. :grr:

[CrownPrinceBandar]

9. That sucks............

So much for equality.

[Duncan Grant]

10. It's time to fight back. We need to form a resistance movement.

We have been entirely too nice about this -- that needs to change. Beginning today.

[pinto]

11. Ah geez. I know little about NY State politics, was this vote the expected result locally? n/t

[TheWraith]

16. It depends on who you ask.

I know some people who are closer to the inside of the state senate who expected it to go the other direction, winning with a few lost Dems and a few Republican yes votes. Personally I have had the feeling for awhile that they were being way too optimistic--with the current makeup of the State Senate being what it is, passing this is almost impossible. You've got Republicans mostly from upstate conservative districts, and you've got too many Democrats who are either corrupt (Diaz, Monserrate, and Kruger) or else catering to demographics within their districts (Stachowski, Aubertine).

[pinto]

33. Thanks for the info.

[cecilfirefox]

12. I am surprised the margine was so slanted against us. nt

[Prism]

13. Primary them

This is unacceptable from the Democratic Party in a deeply blue state. Yes, I know, upstate conservatives and all that. It shouldn't matter. The party our community pours so much into should not be making the difference in our continued second class citizenship.

* Joseph Addabbo (D) — NO

* Darrel Aubertine (D) — NO

* Ruben Diaz (D) — NO

* Shirley Huntley (D) — NO

* Carl Kruger (D) — NO

* Hiram Monserrate (D) — NO

* George Onorato (D) — NO

* William Stachowski (D) — NO

[Pab Sungenis]

14. Boycott New York State.

I'm tired of this shit.

[TheWraith]

15. 'Scuse me? nt

[GodlessBiker]

18. Even though I live here, I wouldn't blame you if you did.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

19. you cant boycott a state. the notion itself is silly

[TheWraith]

21. Not to mention those of us who live here and had nothing to do with this would object.

Not that I imagine such a boycott would get very far, but Pri used the right word: silly.

That said, turning over eight New York State Senators is a much more realistic goal.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

22. yes, its a more realistic protest

[racaulk]

20. Boycott an entire state because of 38 state Senators?

Sorry, but I can't support you on that.

If anything, New York needs our support more than ever, we just need to be careful as to where we spend our limited resources. Research and support those causes, companies, and organizations in NY that are owned and/or are supportive of our communities, including those that work to effect change in the state and local governments there.

And we absolutely need to fund and support any primary challengers to the Democrats that voted "No" on this measure today.

No state has full equality for its GLBT citizens, not even your state of New Jersey. I hope you don't propose boycotting all of them.


Edited to add: Please remember also that the NYS General Assembly approved this bill more than once by large margins. The Senate there is just a clusterfuck.

[Pab Sungenis]

24. If NJ votes down the gay marriage bill it's considering

then, yes, I will call for a boycott and make plans to move. I'm no longer willing to live in an area or state that is openly hostile to me.

Maybe I can get a million other gays to move to Wyoming with me to create the first majority-gay state. Then we can ban straight marriage there and see how they like it.

[racaulk]

25. That's the thing about trying to get away from people that are openly hostile toward us.

They live in all fifty states.

I can certainly understand and respect your desire to surround yourself with other gay and gay affirming people, it's just not the approach I choose to take. I'm not saying that one approach is better than the other, they're just different. If marriage equality doesn't shake out in New Jersey this year, I hope you'll stay and continue the fight, especially since you're so close to achieving that goal (your incoming Governor notwithstanding). Here in Georgia, we have a MUCH larger fight ahead of us in a much more hostile political landscape, so I don't envy the position you're in there.

But if you decide to move out to Wyoming, I will be very jealous. That area of the country is breathtakingly beautiful! :hi:

[Pab Sungenis]

35. We're very close, but we're going to step back.

Chris Christie wants to do away with the civil unions we have, and will be pushing a state Constitutional Amendment to permanently ban gay marriage and civil unions. He has enough Democrats (like Albano, Milam, and Van Drew to name just three) behind him to put it on the ballot, and by this time in 2010 my civil union will be forcibly dissolved.

Now the time has come to make a stand, and for gays to pull together and fight together.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

27. I hope you don't have any money in the stock market.

[Libertas1776]

23. I expected

mostly NO's from the Repubs but 7 Dems voting NO? All slime, fucking slime. Especially that fucking felonious piece of shit girlfriend beating, scientologist, Albany coup conspirator Hiram Monseratte. Why the fuck isn't he in jail right now?!!!

[galledgoblin]

26. NY still is ahead of the nation thanks to Paterson.

say what you will about him, he deserves credit for his work for gays. with the stroke of a pen he put us ahead by ensuring that all marriages obtained elsewhere, say in neighboring Canada or Massachusetts or Vermont or Connecticut or New Hampshire, are fully recognized under NY law. the court upheld this earlier this year. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/19/new-york-must-recognize-g_n_364212.html

the fight goes on.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

28. May I add a "Fuck Ruben Diaz" ?

:mad:

[La Lioness Priyanka]

29. yeah. you may

:hi:

[Starbucks Anarchist]

30. He's the type of homophobe I'm more angry at.

The Fred Phelps crowd are clearly idiots, but at least their hate is upfront. People like Diaz try to couch it in illogical terms (negative effects on children, popular will, the Bible).

[racaulk]

36. +1

[ShadowLiberal]

31. I didn't think we had the votes, but to lose this badly is shocking

My guess is that several of the no votes would have voted yes if they knew the bill would pass, but decided it wasn't worth the heat they'd take for their vote if it would fail anyway. That seems the most logical explanation for how not so close the margin was.

[Veruca Salt]

32. No more voting on civil rights.

From Maine to NY: I share your pain, we shall persevere. :hug:

[NMDemDist2]

34. i'm sorry you guys and gals

truly

:cry: