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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 09:46 AM
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Every argument against marriage equality is horseshit
Every argument against marriage equality is horseshit

While it has yet to articulate a single argument against marriage equality that meets basic standards of plausibility or verisimilitude, the gay discrimination industry has coughed up a litany of anti-equality arguments designed to appeal to the gullible and the intellectually compromised. These arguments get parroted about so frequently that even thinking people start to become inured to their irrationality and ridiculousness.

Fortunately, none of these arguments could survive the academic scrutiny of a marginally sober third-grader. In the best light, they’re just hollow platitudes. In the worst, they’re vile, desperate lies. And if you ever get caught in a conversation with a discrimination parrot—or if you want to defend marriage equality in an angry blog post or a letter to the editor—feel free to steal the simple refutations below with complete impunity.


Gay marriage will destroy the sanctity of straight marriage
Wrong. Britney Spears’ 55-hour just-for-fun marriage destroys the sanctity of straight marriage. Rush Limbaugh’s three temporary marriages destroy the sanctity of straight marriage. John McCain dating and proposing to his second wife while still married to his disfigured first wife destroys the sanctity of straight marriage.

We can’t redefine marriage
• The concept of “redefining marriage” is a linguistic distraction designed to pull the spotlight away from the underlying hatred behind “traditional marriage” propaganda. Giving gay people equal access to the rights and protections of marriage will not change the definition of marriage. Nothing about gay marriage alters heterosexual marriage. The definition of marriage between heterosexuals will remain exactly the same.
• If we hadn’t redefined marriage in the 1960s, Barack Obama would still be a bastard in the 19 states that wouldn’t allow the interracial marriage of his parents when he was born.
• Ronald Reagan, the divorced patron saint of the modern conservative theocracy, redefined marriage into something temporary and easily revocable in 1969 when as governor of California he signed the Family Law Act, leading the United States into an era of no-fault divorce.
• Other historical “redefinitions” of marriage involve the transition of marriage from a business relationship between families to a property relationship between a man and his wife and then to a relationship based on relative equality between a man and a woman.

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Much more at the link: http://nofo.blogspot.com/2009/06/every-argument-against-marriage.html

I found this posted on another blog that I follow, and it really was too good to not share. Definitely worth the read. :hi:
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 09:49 AM
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1. If they really believe in the sanctity of marriage make divorce illegal
I asked a local legislator who is on marriage #2 why he didn't do that. He was caught fucking around on wife #1 with #2.
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 09:57 AM
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2. You gotta' have a bogeyman--an evil other to blame.
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southpaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 10:06 AM
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3. I really like this list
It's thorough and concise. Plus it rebuts the arguments against same-sex marriage in terms that even the simple minds of the anti-equality crowd can understand. Bookmarked!
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 11:16 AM
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4. K&R
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 02:16 PM
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5. The worst argument I've ever heard didn't even appear on the list!
On another board, a poster that identified himself as gay actually claimed that lack of equal marriage was not a problem at all, because any gay person is free to marry any other person of the opposite gender! :nuke: :nuke: :nuke:

I could only respond with the following clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 04:59 PM
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7. Technically true but meaningless in reality.
BTW, I also use that to refute the gays-can't-have-children "argument." Apart from marriage not necessarily being about children (I'm married with none, a lot of folks have children but aren't married), the simple fact is that gay people are biologically able to have children, just not with each other. So that argument is bullshit too.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 04:56 PM
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6. Sometimes the best arguments are the most direct...
...and use the word "horseshit." :applause:
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ShadowLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 09:13 AM
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8. Not to mention the 'sanctity of marriage' argument was used to justify no divorces
The pope excommunicated one King for wanting a divorce, as that was sinful, and then he made the king sit out in the freezing cold for 4 days when he traveled to Italy to beg the pope for forgiveness (if the king didn't get the excommunication lifted then his people were going to overthrow him).

Generations later there was another fight between a king and the pope over the king wanting a divorce, but this time the king won by starting up the church of England.

So right there, once the king succeeded in getting a divorce, and legalizing it in his country the sanctity of marriage was no more, and eventually even the Catholic church and the Pope had to allow divorce even though it's sinful according to the bible.

And yet gays getting married will suddenly destroy the sanctity of marriage? Yeah... it's a few centuries too late for that fundies.
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RetiredTrotskyite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 01:31 PM
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9. I Have Yet to Hear
a valid argument against marriage equality. Not even one. All of them are on some level religious in nature. Religion has no place in political issues. Gay marriage should be argued on its consitutional merits.
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