SOTU????

[joeybee12]

Haven't seen any discussion of what Obama might or might not have said...I didn't see it...what did he say about ending DADT? How was it received? Thanks.

[CTD]

1. Have you tried...

[joeybee12]

11. I did, but it seems justa brief message, I guess I'm wondering more how

people responded to it...in the audience and here...thanks.

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[Jennicut]

2. Said he wants Congress to repeal DADT. Hearings could start on it in Feb.

per Sen. Levin, who was planning on it before the bit in the SOTU. Keeping my fingers crossed.

[joeybee12]

5. Yeah, but that was it...just that he wanted it repealed? Thanks.

[Jennicut]

12. As far as I can tell, but he is working with Levin to coordinate when to start the hearings.

[joeybee12]

14. Thansk, saw that, too...I just hope

there's follow-through on this, because there will be push back by the repukes

[Jennicut]

17. Here, from Lat Breaking News, more info on a hearing with Gates

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4247050

[joeybee12]

20. Thanks!

[TheWraith]

3. He said we'll be ending DADT this year.

Applause from the Dems, grumbling from the Repubs.

[muffin1]

25. Eugene Robinson said he was told

by a source that "it won't happen this year".

Obama's stance on this is nothing less than disgusting. He continually puts off doing anything about it. It's always next month, next year...

How someone as intelligent as Obama can be so homophobic, I'll never know.

[TheWraith]

27. Well, the President says it will happen this year. Barney Frank says probably in March.

And yes, calling the president homophobic violates DU rules against namecalling.

[muffin1]

28. I don't remember asking a question,

but thanks for answering it anyway. To me, that is more of an adjective than namecalling, like Obama is "black" or "intelligent". Simply a statement of fact, not an slur said in anger.

[peace13]

4. If you get a chance watch the video, the speech was interesting.

He mentioned DADT in one sentence, saying that it needs to go away. There were so many bombshells in the speech that this was tossed in stride. Hope that people call DC to get this thing moving down the road.

[joeybee12]

8. Yeah, when I check news articles about it...seems to be only

one line...but again, it's how it was delivered and received is what I was curious about. Thanks.

[sharesunited]

6. From the transcript:

This year -- this year, I will work with Congress and our military to finally repeal the law that denies gay Americans the right to serve the country they love because of who they are. It's the right thing to do.

[peace13]

16. Thanks for adding this here.

It may have been one sentence but it was a powerful one.

[BOSSHOG]

7. Passively suggested that DADT

be done away with but he hasn't DONE anything about it. If Gays can't join the military openly and they can't get married then why the hell do they have to pay taxes?? Equal protection my Ass!

[joeybee12]

9. Welcome back!

That's what I was curious about...passionate or by the wayside.

[BOSSHOG]

13. I found it

passive. He didn't offer a plan of action, he didn't direct the military to do squat, he said he would talk with congress, a group of obstructionist assholes. Where have I been?

[joeybee12]

15. Passed out after Sunday's game?

That's where I THINK you've been!

[Cherchez la Femme]

23. Hey lookit me! I'm a starving pigeon

& I pecked up that crumb from our "fierce advocate"

...y'know, the guy who still doesn't believe in our right to marry and sends out his Justice Department to compare my hard-wired love (no jokes please!) to incest, pedophilia and bestiality...

because that's the only crumb thrown my way for over a year.


Strangely enough, I'm still skeletal!
Huh. Go figure. :shrug:


Bottom line: I don't want a crumb, I don't care about hearings when a certain somebody can just sign a piece of paper, nor do I want a fucking pony; I simply want the same and equal rights granted to every other law-abiding, tax-paying American. Heck, even law-breakers --felonious psychopaths-- can serve in the military, but according to people even here I merely am a 'one issue voter'
But please, put an emphasis on 'voter'.


Along with being severely malnourished, I am tired.
So, so tired.


Am I unloading? Sorry.
That's why my post count is so relatively low, I try not to post unless I truly have something to add, not just repeat.
But this has all been too much, too frustrating.


Edit for typo

[Sebastian Doyle]

10. Here's his exact words from the White House official transcript

"This year, I will work with Congress and our military to finally repeal the law that denies gay Americans the right to serve the country they love because of who they are. (Applause.) It's the right thing to do. (Applause.)

BTW, none of that applause was coming from the joint chiefs sitting there in their uniforms. A couple of them looked about as pissed off as Sammy the Fish did when Obama called out the Supreme Court.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/remarks-president-state-union-address

[BOSSHOG]

18. Work with congress?

But the republicans have a 41% majority in the Senate and they hate gays. "Work" with a bunch of dumbass obstructionist members of the party of NO? C'mon Mr. President.

[Sebastian Doyle]

19. Yeah, the words sounded a little weasely to me too

Maybe he'll ask the newest Senator Cosmo Brown how he feels about DADT?


Well, gee Mr. President, I don't mind if gay guys buy magazines and look at my naked body,
but I don't want them next to me in the foxhole, ya know.... :dunce:

[mitchtv]

22. it only signaled intentions

I liked it, but once burned twice shy, Wake me when something happens

[Toasterlad]

24. Didn't Bother To Watch It.

I've learned that what Obama says rarely has any connection to what he does.

[muffin1]

26. Wish I'd done the same.

I thought he might actually throw a bone to the base, and at least stop the discharges under DADT.

For some reason, I STILL think he's going to surprise me and do the right thing. When will I learn?:argh: