American Family Association Radio Host: It's Time To Imprison All Gays

[FreeState]

http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2010/01/american-family-association-radio-host.html

American Family Association radio host Bryan Fischer has called for sending homosexuals to prison for forced reparative therapy, a move he says is sanctioned by the Bible. Below, he responds to an email from a complaining listener.

Thanks for writing me about my comments on my program regarding homosexuality. It might be worth noting that what I actually suggested is that we impose the same sanctions on those who engage in homosexual behavior as we do on those who engage in intravenous drug abuse, since both pose the same kind of risk of contracting HIV/AIDS. I'd be curious to know what you think should be done with IV drug abusers, because whatever it is, I think the same response should be made to those who engage in homosexual behavior.

If you believe that what drug abusers need is to go into an effective detox program, then we should likewise put active homosexuals through an effective reparative therapy program. Secondly, I'm afraid you're simply wrong about the Bible's perspective on the law and homosexuality. Paul lists quite explicitly in 1 Timothy 1:8-11 the actions and behaviors that are the proper concern of the law:

"Now we know that the law is good, if one uses it lawfully, understanding this, that the law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who strike their fathers and mothers, for murderers, the sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine..."

The bottom line here is that, biblically, those "who practice homosexuality" should come under the purview of the law just as much as those who take people captive in order to sell them into slavery. You express a belief in the Scriptures, and I trust your confidence in Scripture is not selective. If you believe all Scripture is inspired, then you are compelled to accept that legal sanctions may appropriately be applied to those who engage in homosexual behavior.

In November, Fischer called for banning all Muslims from the U.S. military. In addition to his radio show for the American Family Association, Fischer is the executive director of the Idaho Family Alliance....

[closeupready]

1. K&R - important for people see the virulence known as homophobia in all its glory.

:sarcasm:

[AndyA]

2. Well, if that's the way it should be, same goes for

people who work on Sundays, people who have extramarital affairs, people who have been divorced, etc.

[MineralMan]

3. Wow! It's hard to imagine that someone would espouse such

nonsense in public.

[Morning Dew]

4. Would needle exchange programs

be the equivalent of a "partner exchange program"?

There was a time that I would have gone for that - my partner at the time was nearly as crazy as this fella - though not in the same way (thank heaven).

[JoeyT]

16. That's actually not a bad idea.

I know there were a few times I wanted to take someone I was dating back to where I found them and say "I need a new one. This one is dull as a spoon."

[dickthegrouch]

5. And yet none of this was presented as evidence in court

IMHO the intellectual dishonesty which joins together such disparate circumstances should land Fischer in jail.
Neither drug users nor homosexuals belong in jail.

[Zoeisright]

6. There are a few other things you 'need to do' if you feel Scripture is inspired.

Which, by the way, is a crock because there are so many mistakes in the Bible, like - different creation stories, two different genealogies of Jesus, claiming that pi is 3.0, saying that the sky is a boundary between the earth and the heavens holding up water.

If you think Scripture is inspired, you must kill yourself if you eat seafood, if you wear a polyester blend garment. You must kill your child if he talks back and kill anyone who commits adultery (hear that, Limpballs and Gingrich??).

What a complete and utter waste of oxygen Fischer is.

[LiberalFighter]

10. There is nothing about giving tax breaks to business.

There is nothing about giving gun rights to anyone.

There is nothing about regulating the BCS.

There is nothing about prohibiting drunk driving or underage drinking.

There is nothing about terrorists.

There is nothing about maintaining roads.

There is nothing about regulating air traffic.

There is nothing about screening air passengers.

There is nothing about licensing vehicles and drivers.


Should we get rid of all these laws because they're not in the bible?

[polly7]

7. I think it's about time for a new Bible.

One without all the scriptures these fools twist to their own ends to vent their personal hate and bigotry, written by ..................... hmmmmmm. Don't know, but someone with a little empathy and compassion like a real God should show.

[LeftHander]

24. that is the new bible....one that fundies wrote to demonize gay folk...

pick and choose religion mixed with if the bible doesn't say exactly what you want then rewrite it and call it a translation.

[AnnieBW]

8. Showing their true colors

First the want to lock up teh gayz. Then they'll pull a Uganda and want to kill them. :mad:

[closeupready]

12. Oh, you know it, sister.

That would be item #2, I am sure. :mad:

[eppur_se_muova]

9. Not. :banghead: The. :banghead: Onion. :banghead:

Not. :banghead: The. :banghead: Onion. :banghead:

Un-frickin'-believable.

[Lyric]

11. Actually Fischer, as a lesbian my odds of contracting HIV are VASTLY lower

than they would be if I were having heterosexual sex. One of the riskiest things that any woman can do is to have sex with a man. Since lesbian sex is statistically MUCH safer than hetero sex, we should obviously be treating heteros like drug addicts and sending them off to be "repaired" so they too can become lesbians. They'll be ever so much safer and healthier!

:P

[TokenQueer]

13. This guy doesn't count as a REAL christian!!11!!

:eyes:

[marginlized]

14. I like the way people jump to rescue the Church with ...

but he's not a REAL CHRISTIAN. And Token, I'm not trying to single you out, but there are just too many different kinds of Christians out there and they ALL think the other guy is not a REAL CHRISTIAN.

It was Sam Harris' point that a general tolerance for primitive sky god cults gives safe harbor to the truly crazy.

[Toasterlad]

18. Token Was Being Sarcastic.

[TokenQueer]

21. Sarcasm. I thought the eye roll and the numeral 1 buried in the exclamation points made that clear.

You're right on target and thanks for jumping on that response. Take a stroll through GD and you will find a multitude of responses similar my post... sarcasm free. :)

:fistbump:

[mitchtv]

23. he may not be a good Xian

but you a baaad homo! hah

[TokenQueer]

25. Bwahahaha!

:rofl:

[donheld]

15. Can we send all Xtians to prison for repairative therapy?

[OneBlueSky]

17. well, there'd be one hell of a party in the jailhouse . . . n/t

.

[LeftHander]

19. From the "New Living Translation" (or homophobe fundie bible)

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Timothy%201:8-11&version=NLT

FYI - The bible has been edited for political and financial purpose for centuries.

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Here is the Good Old King James version....

1 Timothy 1:8-11 (King James Version)

8 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;

9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,

10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;

11 According to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which was committed to my trust.

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[ShadowLiberal]

22. Throw people in jail for being gay? That's dangerously close to what Hitler advocated & did

This kind of a mentality against hated minorities is exactly the way that Hitler was able to control people and set up death camps. Heck, this guy is part of the way there, demanding we lock up everyone who's gay for the crime of being gay, that's not far off from locking up all Jews for being Jewish. Hitler locked up and killed both gays and Jews for being what they were, as well as a few other persecuted minorities.

We need to call people out for getting dangerously close to advocating stuff like this, and shame the people who advertise on his show to pull out so his show is forced to shut down from lack of ad revenue.

[dickthegrouch]

26. I no longer practice

I'm perfect at it :sarcasm:

[Crowman1979]

27. I remember the name Bryan Fischer when the next christian-related sex scandal happens.

Because he's gonna be the perpetrater, guaranteed! I sense another Ted Haggard in the making.

[sui generis]

28. Interesting - you can only accuse someone of being gay

or admit to being gay. You really can't prove it or disprove it.

That makes for some interesting prison roundups, doesn't it, Mr. Fischer. I'll be happy to direct the troops to your house on the merit of an accusation that you cannot disprove.

Also, we should round up your children because you might be passing that gay thing down through your genes.

:eyes:

Do these people even think about what they're saying? I think in their world gays live on the edge of society, only come out at night and have dreadful allergies to sunlight and wooden stakes. We're not mythological. We're for real and we're everywhere, and some of us are meaner than a bobcat with no asshole. And so are our friends, supporters and families if you fuck with us, and that's not a gay thing so much as an American thing.

How is someone like Fischer different from Hitler calling for "cleansing", work rehabilitation programs and a final solution? Oh, he's not in power.

Well there but for the grace of history goes Fischer.