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kweerwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 11:13 AM
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Is there hope for the GOP?
In the span of four weeks, three of the most prominent gay-friendly Republicans in American politics took stands that placed them at odds with the LGBT community. First, former Governor William Weld, during interviews the week of Aug. 18 with The New York Post and New York Times in preparation for a gubernatorial run in that state, declared himself opposed to same-sex marriage, despite his very public support for gay marriage in the Bay State. Next, Arizona Sen. John McCain, who Log Cabin Republicans lists on its Web site as a "Republican hero" for his opposition to the Federal Marriage Amendment, came out in favor of a similar amendment to the constitution of his home state. Finally, on Sept. 7, California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, who told talk show host Jay Leno in March 2004 that he would support a change to state law allowing same-sex marriage, pledged to veto a gay marriage bill passed by both houses of the California legislature.

One might expect Log Cabin to be up in arms over the seeming flip-flop of three of its star political figures on gay rights issues in such a relatively short period of time, particularly given the level of support all three men have received from Log Cabin. In December 2003, Log Cabin presented Weld with a lifetime achievement award, and Log Cabin's PAC made contributions to both Schwarzenegger's 2003 gubernatorial campaign and McCain's 2004 re-election campaign. Yet Log Cabin Political Director Christopher Barron said his organization was unwilling to write off three of its allies over disagreements on single issues, even on such major questions as whether to amend a state constitution to ban same-sex marriage or to veto a marriage bill passed by a democratically-elected legislature.

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He said while Log Cabin is disappointed at each of these recent stances by their allies, the totality of each of their records on LGBT issues shows that they are strong allies of the community. He pointed to Schwarzenegger's signing of several pieces of pro-gay legislation in his first two years in elected office, including bills around employment discrimination, hate crimes and insurance benefits for domestic partners. Barron also praised McCain's impassioned speech against the FMA on the floor of the Senate last year and Weld's pro-gay record as governor of Massachusetts, which included establishing some of the country's first state-sponsored programs for gay and lesbian youth.

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What could cause the politicians who represent the hope of a gay-friendly Republican Party to oppose gay rights? Barron said he is unsure, but Human Rights Campaign Legislative Director Christopher Labonte said it is pure politics. Each of these moves against same-sex marriage come at a time when the three politicians are trying to build support for upcoming elections, Weld for the governor's office in New York, Schwarzenegger for his upcoming 2006 re-election campaign, and McCain for an anticipated Republican presidential primary in 2008.

http://www.baywindows.com/media/paper328/news/2005/09/15/News/Is.There.Hope.For.The.Gop-985829.shtml
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Veronicrat Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 11:18 AM
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1. Log-Cabin Repugnican is still repugnant
Why be a log-cabin republican?
What are the benefits of supporting the republican party??
I am confused- The republicans are a party mainly for rich white dudes, who want to supress women's rights, and limit individual freedoms.
I dont get the connection for wanting so much to support them.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 11:20 AM
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2. Can somebody explain
the origin of "log cabin republican" to me?
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kweerwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 11:28 AM
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4. "Log cabin" refers to Abe Lincoln ...
... the first Republican president (and, if you believe the book that created so much controversy last year, a president who more than occasionally was sexually involved with other men).
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 11:30 AM
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5. Thanks... so
is a log cabin republican gay?

Or is that just a recent use of the term?
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kweerwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 11:41 AM
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6. Log Cabin Republicans is the name for an organization ...
... of gay and lesbian Republicans.

Their website is at http://www.logcabin.org/logcabin/home.html and here is a "What we believe" statement from their web site.

We are loyal Republicans. We believe in low taxes, limited government, strong defense, free markets, personal responsibility, and individual liberty. Log Cabin represents an important part of the American family-taxpaying, hard working people who proudly believe in this nation's greatness. We also believe all Americans have the right to liberty, freedom, and equality. Log Cabin stands up against those who preach hatred and intolerance. We stand up for the idea that all Americans deserve to be treated equal-regardless of their sexual orientation.
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Neocondriac Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 11:25 AM
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3. ridiculous...
The Log Cabin Republican thing will struggle to gain support. Now , if they called themselves "Cute Fashionable Walk-Up Republicans" membership would be off the chart......sorry.....I couldn't resist !
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Veronicrat Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 11:46 AM
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7. don't see much chance here for reality
"We believe in low taxes, limited government, strong defense, free markets, personal responsibility, and individual liberty."

when have the republicans allowed any of that lately?
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Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 12:19 PM
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8. Well, lower taxes for the rich. But that's about it.
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