Hey, all you sterile, fornicating non-breeders!

[Sapphocrat]

Not my words, but those of another whackjob jumping in to defend homophobic bigotry:

Gay? You’re Just A Sterile, Fornicating Non-Breeder! (Sez the Crazy Catholic Lady)

Here’s another citizen-activist attempting to jump into the Prop H8 trial: Margie Reilly, a substitute teacher for both the San Juan Unified School District and the Sacramento City School District, who seems to think she is eminently qualified to submit an amicus curiae brief on behalf of Those Who Want to Eliminate the Homosexual Threat, based on her taking “an eight week course given by the Diocese of Sacramento on ‘Theology of the Body.’”

Although this gal on the go continues beating the dead, buried, and fully decomposed procreation horse, and coughs up the reliable ol’ Gay Marriage Will Rend the Very Fabric of Society to Shreds threat, she does present some novel new arguments for oppressing gay people who want to marry their partners — none of which any normal human being will understand, at least as each relates (or, rather, doesn’t) to the issue of marriage equality, involving DNA, organ transplants, and sensory deprivation of infants.

No, really, I’m serious. I don’t write fiction — especially science fiction — well enough make this stuff up. ...

Read on...

[xchrom]

1. Oy - whatever happened to feed the hungry, clothe the naked,

Give comfort tto the prisoner, etc?

[Warpy]

4. That takes actual effort

Pointing the finger of shame at people who have different sins than your own is so much easier.

[xchrom]

7. Lol! The 'lazy christian'. Nt

[Deep13]

2. I guess my sterile, non-breeder hetero marriage isn't valid either.

"Aside from the theological and spiritual side of every person..."

Um, speak for yourself, crazy Catholic lady. I doubt I have a spiritual side and I definitely don't have a theological side. Anyway, theological matters are irrelevant to the issue before the court.

[sarge43]

5. Same here.

Again, hubby and I were asked by the state of Florida when we applied for our marriage license two questions: Were we of the age of consent and were we legally married to anyone else -- yes and no. Questions that a same sex couple could answer.

I'm fairly sure such is the case in the other states and territories of the USofA.

So the ability to reproduce within the state of marriage doesn't seem to be a BFD to the secular entities which validate marriage. Further, doesn't seem to be any legal requirement to do so.

One other question for crazy Catholic lady, does the RCC forbid marriage to hetero couples who can't reproduce? Is a physical exam required by all couples seeking the Church's blessing?

[Sapphocrat]

8. Actually...

While I don't know if the RCC always asks about childbearing prior to marriage, I do know of one rather infamous case in which the church refused to marry a couple because the husband-to-be was a paraplegic. A documentary was made...

After her husband's death, Mara begins working for Hedir as a home care attendant and they fall in love and decide to get married. Since both of them, as well as their families, are Catholic they make plans to marry in their community church. They make arrangements with the priest for services, ceremony and all other wedding activities, invitations are sent out, and they undergo the requisite premarital counseling. The priest says nothing to suggest that Hedir's impairment will be an impediment to the marriage. Shortly before the wedding, he receives a letter from the Bishop stating that according to the Canonic law, he cannot get married in the church because he is impotent.

More: "Forbidden Wedding: Brazilian Film Explores Religious Restrictions on Marriage of Disabled Persons"

From the filmmaker:

Hedir Antonio de Brito, a paraplegic from the age of 15, wants simply to marry Mara. They were preparing for the wedding; invitations had been mailed, and their marriage certificate applied for from the Roman Catholic Church. Then the shocking letter arrived from the local bishop denying their application. According to the Vatican's Canonic Law 1084, a man must be able to copulate in order to get married.

When I first read of the story in a small Brazilian newspaper in New York, I was shocked. Didn't the Church have more important things to do? Why were priests so concerned with peoples' sex lives? I had to capture this story. I found out that Hedir lived in a small town in southeast Brazil and within a few days I was on a courier flight to document his story. ...

More: "Means of Productions: Forbidden Wedding"

[sarge43]

9. That sucks

I do know the lack of intercourse (voluntary or otherwise) is grounds for annulment, but reproduction .... ?

So, did they were married anyway, by the state? Hope so.

[Sapphocrat]

14. I believe they finally did marry, outside the church.

And, sadly, I think Hedir is http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=pt&u=http://www.jornaldoflavioalmeida.com/2009/03/e-hedir-brito-ganhou-o-mundo.html&ei=nkWZTLSaHsmRnwf74t3DDw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CCkQ7gEwAQ&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%2522Hedir%2BAntonio%2Bde%2BBrito%2522%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DG%26tbs%3Dblg:1">no longer with us.

[sarge43]

16. May he rest in peace.

He had years of happiness.

[LiberalFighter]

3. Then she must be against adoptions, non-procreative marriages,

marriages with one or both sterile, marriages with partners that hate kids.

[DCKit]

6. She should be banned from teaching.

Too creepy/scary to be allowed around children.

[One_Life_To_Give]

10. Vasectomy = Automatic Divorce then?

If you can't still have kids I guess the marriage is over too then.

[joeybee12]

12. As soon as women hit "the change" men can divorce them apparently...n/t

[Iggo]

11. Wow. I say let her in.

Get this into the record.

[HockeyMom]

13. Stupid, stupid bigoted people

I had a friend in HS who had ovarian cancer at 16 and had them removed. She was "allowed" to marry even though she would NEVER have children. My husband got a vasectomy, which we decided before we married, after our 2nd child (both girls) were born. Rip up our marriage license for that? My widowed mother-in-law remarried at the age of 67. What a farce to the "sacrement" of marriage!

Unless god came down and "blessed" her, she was never going to have children from that marriage either.

Children are not the purpose of marriage. We can site so many instances where sterile, and subsequently by choice sterile, straight coules can and DO marry.

[supernova]

15. My upcoming marriage wouldn't cut it either

We're a straight couple in our mid-late 40s. Too late for kids, plus he already has two grown daughters, didn't want anymore. He had the vasectomy years ago.

I guess we wouldn't count either.

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