Pelosi: DADT "will be gone by the end of the year"

[pgodbold]

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) was optimistic about the end of the military's ban on gay and lesbian service, saying on Wednesday night, "'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' will be gone by the end of the year. It will just be a sad memory." This, she said, despite last week's vote in the Senate against bringing the bill containing repeal language to the floor for debate.

MetroWeekly:
http://metroweekly.com/poliglot/2010/09/pelosi-dadt-will-be-gone.html

[RaleighNCDUer]

1. Got to admire her optimism -

even if there doesn't seem to be any foundation for it.

[pgodbold]

2. Yeah .. it rings hollow for me too. nt

[TheWraith]

7. Maybe, just maybe...

...the Speaker of the House knows more about the politics of the situation than the civilians do?

[Hell Hath No Fury]

3. They will say anything to --

make sure LGBT voters make it to the polls in Nov. :eyes:

[bluestateguy]

4. She really is a fierce advocate

I will keep my fingers crossed

[Pirate Smile]

5. I think the Senate votes are there after the survey is done. The Republican

repeal votes (and Lincoln & Pryor although I think they may have voted the other way if Collins would have) will only do it if they can hide behind the Pentagon's survey. How bold and noble. :sarcasm:

[RaleighNCDUer]

6. Are you serious? You really think a pentagon survey is going to come up with

anything other than "it can't be done"?

The survey was just a way of kicking the can down the road and saying "it's out of my hands". I would be astonished if repeal of DADT happened in any way other than over the objections of the military.

[Pirate Smile]

8. I think Obama got the Pentagon to sign on - as shown when Gates and Mullen testified to Congress

that DADT should be repealed - and what he gave them in return was the time to do that survey.

As Nancy said, DADT will be gone in December (after the survey comes in).

Obama knew that getting the Senate to vote to repeal DADT with the Pentagon objecting was going to be practically impossible. He had to get Gates & Mullen to go along with it to be able to get it passed.

As Biden told Rachel Maddow when asked why discharges could not be stopped now while efforts to repeal the policy continue, Biden attributed it to “compromise.”

“That’s the compromise we basically had to make to get the votes to finally repeal it,” he said.

[ruggerson]

10. Your time line is a bit off

but I agree with the general premise.

The military was in the process of kicking the can down the road as witnessed by Gate's letter to Congress last spring asking them NOT to repeal DADT this year. Congress, however, (both houses) had the votes to go ahead with the repeal as part of the authorization bill. They went to the WH for a meeting and a compromise measure was worked out whereby the bill would be passed this year, but repeal would not take effect until after the Penntagon finished its "review" and the DOD and the President then "certify" the repeal of the ban (sometime next year most likely.) As part of this compromise, the DOD and Obama admin stripped out the very specific anti discrimination language that was in the original bill.

Reid callked for the authorization bill to be brought up last week, knowing it would most likely go down as it does not fit the timeline previously agreed upon.

It will be passed in December, most likely, and the actual repeal certficiation will occur after that and then we will be back at square one - 1992. No statue forbidding gays, but no statute protecting them and specifically allowing them.

Oboama will have to do an EO for that, since that vital part of the legislation has already been bargained away.

[Pirate Smile]

11. Yep. We essentially agree.

I hope the number of votes they have lined up takes into account the fact that some potential flips to Republican can get sworn in right after the election - not waiting until January - because they are the replacement seats filled by Governors when Senators became President, VP, SOS, Sect of Interior, etc. That is the main nagging worry I have about it (nightmares of having 60 votes for HCR and then - Bam! - Scott Brown wins and now we have 59 - agreed upon conference committee HCR Bill is now dead, Armageddon, anarchy and mass Democratic depression strike Congress for a few weeks until a new plan appears).

[queerart]

9. Midterm Elections = False Promises

We want your money, shoe leather, and votes.... and then after the elections.....



Tough shit Queers, no do overs....